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Greg Freemyer

10 Dec 2010 10 Dec '10

17:06

All, I upgraded my desktop to 11.3 months ago via "zypper dup". Since then I've been doing "zypper patch" routinely and have been getting security updates. By chance I just typed "zypper up". It looks like my full system needs to be updated per zypper up: 1769 packages to upgrade, 4 new, 1 to remove. I'm fairly confused by that. Can anyone explain? Thanks Greg -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

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Marcus Meissner

10 Dec 10 Dec

17:27

On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 12:06:37PM -0500, Greg Freemyer wrote:

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All,

I upgraded my desktop to 11.3 months ago via "zypper dup".

Since then I've been doing "zypper patch" routinely and have been getting security updates.

By chance I just typed "zypper up".

It looks like my full system needs to be updated per zypper up: 1769 packages to upgrade, 4 new, 1 to remove.

I'm fairly confused by that. Can anyone explain?

zypper patch will install the official online updates. zypper up will just update any new RPMs in your active repositories. Ciao, Marcus -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Mariusz Fik

19:31

Dnia piątek, 10 grudnia 2010 o 18:27:32 Marcus Meissner napisał(a):

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On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 12:06:37PM -0500, Greg Freemyer wrote:

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All,

I upgraded my desktop to 11.3 months ago via "zypper dup".

Since then I've been doing "zypper patch" routinely and have been getting security updates.

By chance I just typed "zypper up".

It looks like my full system needs to be updated per zypper up: 1769 packages to upgrade, 4 new, 1 to remove.

I'm fairly confused by that. Can anyone explain?

zypper patch will install the official online updates.

zypper up will just update any new RPMs in your active repositories. Without changing the package vendor.

Ciao, Marcus

-- Pozdrawiam / Best regards, Mariusz Fik, openSUSE Community Member

Ken Schneider - openSUSE

20:37

On 12/10/2010 02:31 PM, Mariusz Fik pecked at the keyboard and wrote:

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Dnia piątek, 10 grudnia 2010 o 18:27:32 Marcus Meissner napisał(a):

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On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 12:06:37PM -0500, Greg Freemyer wrote:

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All,

I upgraded my desktop to 11.3 months ago via "zypper dup".

Since then I've been doing "zypper patch" routinely and have been getting security updates.

By chance I just typed "zypper up".

It looks like my full system needs to be updated per zypper up: 1769 packages to upgrade, 4 new, 1 to remove.

I'm fairly confused by that. Can anyone explain?

zypper patch will install the official online updates.

zypper up will just update any new RPMs in your active repositories. Without changing the package vendor.

Ciao, Marcus

How about showing the results of zypper lr Could be a misconfigured repo is active (factory?). -- Ken Schneider SuSe since Version 5.2, June 1998 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Greg Freemyer

21:02

On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 3:37 PM, Ken Schneider - openSUSE wrote:

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On 12/10/2010 02:31 PM, Mariusz Fik pecked at the keyboard and wrote:

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Dnia piątek, 10 grudnia 2010 o 18:27:32 Marcus Meissner napisał(a):

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On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 12:06:37PM -0500, Greg Freemyer wrote:

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All,

I upgraded my desktop to 11.3 months ago via "zypper dup".

Since then I've been doing "zypper patch" routinely and have been getting security updates.

By chance I just typed "zypper up".

It looks like my full system needs to be updated per zypper up: 1769 packages to upgrade, 4 new, 1 to remove.

I'm fairly confused by that. Can anyone explain?

zypper patch will install the official online updates.

zypper up will just update any new RPMs in your active repositories. Without changing the package vendor.

Ciao, Marcus

How about showing the results of zypper lr

Could be a misconfigured repo is active (factory?).

-- Ken Schneider

Ken, I'm not sure anything is wrong.

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sudo zypper lr # | Alias | Name | Enabled | Refresh --+-----------------------------+-------------------------------------+---------+-------- 1 | KDE:Release:45 | KDE:Release:45 | Yes | Yes 2 | Main_Repository_(DEBUG) | Main Repository (DEBUG) | Yes | Yes 3 | Packman_Repository_1 | Packman Repository | Yes | Yes 4 | openSUSE-11.3_Contrib | openSUSE-11.3 Contrib | No | Yes 5 | openSUSE_11.3_KDE_Extras_45 | openSUSE_11.3_KDE_Extras_45 | Yes | Yes 6 | openSUSE_Tumbleweed | openSUSE:Tumbleweed (openSUSE_11.3) | Yes | Yes 7 | repo-11.3-non-oss | openSUSE-11.3 Non-OSS | Yes | No 8 | repo-11.3-oss | openSUSE-11.3 OSS | Yes | No 9 | repo-11.3-update | openSUSE-11.3 Updates | Yes | Yes

=== I just did a zypper dup --from 1, so kde 4.5 is current. The 1500 or so packages that wnat to upgrade must be coming from Packman or Contrib. I'll just continue not to run zypper up. I have no reason to run it. I was just experimenting. Greg -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Ken Schneider - openSUSE

21:49

On 12/10/2010 04:02 PM, Greg Freemyer pecked at the keyboard and wrote:

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On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 3:37 PM, Ken Schneider - openSUSE wrote:

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On 12/10/2010 02:31 PM, Mariusz Fik pecked at the keyboard and wrote:

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Dnia piątek, 10 grudnia 2010 o 18:27:32 Marcus Meissner napisał(a):

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On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 12:06:37PM -0500, Greg Freemyer wrote:

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All,

I upgraded my desktop to 11.3 months ago via "zypper dup".

Since then I've been doing "zypper patch" routinely and have been getting security updates.

By chance I just typed "zypper up".

It looks like my full system needs to be updated per zypper up: 1769 packages to upgrade, 4 new, 1 to remove.

I'm fairly confused by that. Can anyone explain?

zypper patch will install the official online updates.

zypper up will just update any new RPMs in your active repositories. Without changing the package vendor.

Ciao, Marcus

How about showing the results of zypper lr

Could be a misconfigured repo is active (factory?).

-- Ken Schneider

Ken,

I'm not sure anything is wrong.

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sudo zypper lr # | Alias | Name | Enabled | Refresh --+-----------------------------+-------------------------------------+---------+-------- 1 | KDE:Release:45 | KDE:Release:45 | Yes | Yes 2 | Main_Repository_(DEBUG) | Main Repository (DEBUG) | Yes | Yes 3 | Packman_Repository_1 | Packman Repository | Yes | Yes 4 | openSUSE-11.3_Contrib | openSUSE-11.3 Contrib | No | Yes 5 | openSUSE_11.3_KDE_Extras_45 | openSUSE_11.3_KDE_Extras_45 | Yes | Yes 6 | openSUSE_Tumbleweed | openSUSE:Tumbleweed (openSUSE_11.3) | Yes | Yes 7 | repo-11.3-non-oss | openSUSE-11.3 Non-OSS | Yes | No 8 | repo-11.3-oss | openSUSE-11.3 OSS | Yes | No 9 | repo-11.3-update | openSUSE-11.3 Updates | Yes | Yes

=== I just did a zypper dup --from 1, so kde 4.5 is current.

The 1500 or so packages that wnat to upgrade must be coming from Packman or Contrib.

I'll just continue not to run zypper up. I have no reason to run it. I was just experimenting.

Greg

Whats in tumbleweed? Isn't that the new repo for rolling updates? -- Ken Schneider SuSe since Version 5.2, June 1998 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Greg Freemyer

11 Dec 11 Dec

00:06

2010/12/10 Ken Schneider - openSUSE :

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On 12/10/2010 04:02 PM, Greg Freemyer pecked at the keyboard and wrote:

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On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 3:37 PM, Ken Schneider - openSUSE wrote:

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On 12/10/2010 02:31 PM, Mariusz Fik pecked at the keyboard and wrote:

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Dnia piątek, 10 grudnia 2010 o 18:27:32 Marcus Meissner napisał(a):

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On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 12:06:37PM -0500, Greg Freemyer wrote:

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All,

I upgraded my desktop to 11.3 months ago via "zypper dup".

Since then I've been doing "zypper patch" routinely and have been getting security updates.

By chance I just typed "zypper up".

It looks like my full system needs to be updated per zypper up: 1769 packages to upgrade, 4 new, 1 to remove.

I'm fairly confused by that. Can anyone explain?

zypper patch will install the official online updates.

zypper up will just update any new RPMs in your active repositories. Without changing the package vendor.

Ciao, Marcus

How about showing the results of zypper lr

Could be a misconfigured repo is active (factory?).

-- Ken Schneider

Ken,

I'm not sure anything is wrong.

...
sudo zypper lr # | Alias | Name | Enabled | Refresh --+-----------------------------+-------------------------------------+---------+-------- 1 | KDE:Release:45 | KDE:Release:45 | Yes | Yes 2 | Main_Repository_(DEBUG) | Main Repository (DEBUG) | Yes | Yes 3 | Packman_Repository_1 | Packman Repository | Yes | Yes 4 | openSUSE-11.3_Contrib | openSUSE-11.3 Contrib | No | Yes 5 | openSUSE_11.3_KDE_Extras_45 | openSUSE_11.3_KDE_Extras_45 | Yes | Yes 6 | openSUSE_Tumbleweed | openSUSE:Tumbleweed (openSUSE_11.3) | Yes | Yes 7 | repo-11.3-non-oss | openSUSE-11.3 Non-OSS | Yes | No 8 | repo-11.3-oss | openSUSE-11.3 OSS | Yes | No 9 | repo-11.3-update | openSUSE-11.3 Updates | Yes | Yes

=== I just did a zypper dup --from 1, so kde 4.5 is current.

The 1500 or so packages that wnat to upgrade must be coming from Packman or Contrib.

I'll just continue not to run zypper up. I have no reason to run it. I was just experimenting.

Greg

Whats in tumbleweed? Isn't that the new repo for rolling updates?

Exactly!!! It's only got a couple packages in it. Definitely a playground for now. I just wanted to see if I could even see them by doing a zypper dup --from tumbleweed. I can't. Not sure why not. fyi: with Greg KH leading the tumbleweed charge, the first real thing it is likely to have is 2.6.36 stable kernel. Once that hits, I just may go for a newer kernel. Greg -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Carlos E. R.

10 Dec 10 Dec

21:49

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Friday, 2010-12-10 at 16:02 -0500, Greg Freemyer wrote:

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The 1500 or so packages that wnat to upgrade must be coming from Packman or Contrib.

They will be listed.

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I'll just continue not to run zypper up. I have no reason to run it. I was just experimenting.

You can use yast, view by repository, and then use the option to update if newer version - which will only act on the selected repository. Only if you click accept they will be installed, so it is safe this method to check what would be installed by "zypper up", and then (de)select something if you like. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. (from 11.2 x86_64 "Emerald" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAk0CoGkACgkQtTMYHG2NR9VO6ACeICqdGPCVx7wYsagyoLx0nD2E tKMAoIIMv4zxF+xhwSIQ2ptoc40bOANY =RMhM -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

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