All, With FF 102, aside from Carlos's ulimit issue, font rendering seems much improved. However, the bookmark and menu entry height is still 2X too tall due to GTK bunglekit. Similar with TB 102, all seems good -- but I would still like to have a permanent Cc: in the new message window instead of the ellipsized list top-right. I guess they had to do that due to the 2X edit box height for To: and Subject: due to bunglekit+3 to save window real estate. Progress ? :( ? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.
On 9/28/22 15:06, David C. Rankin wrote:
All,
With FF 102, aside from Carlos's ulimit issue, font rendering seems much improved. However, the bookmark and menu entry height is still 2X too tall due to GTK bunglekit.
Similar with TB 102, all seems good -- but I would still like to have a permanent Cc: in the new message window instead of the ellipsized list top-right. I guess they had to do that due to the 2X edit box height for To: and Subject: due to bunglekit+3 to save window real estate.
Progress ? :( ?
Also, Let me know if anyone is seeing flaky behavior of the scroll-bar on the right side displaying and hiding. It's something I'll file with Mozilla, but want to confirm if anyone else has noticed. Basically, depending on whether you are typing in an edit box, or move the mouse, the scroll bar will partially display. About 1/2 normal width. It will then partially hide what it showed, usually leaving a ghost of the scrollbar about 5 pixel thick (or maybe full-width in some parts). I've gathered a couple of screenshots, but I'm curious if anyone else has see this behavior. The scrollbar works, it's just annoying to see parts of it come and go as I type or when the mouse or touchpad is brushed. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.
Am 29.09.22 um 21:16 schrieb David C. Rankin:
On 9/28/22 15:06, David C. Rankin wrote:
All,
With FF 102, aside from Carlos's ulimit issue, font rendering seems much improved. However, the bookmark and menu entry height is still 2X too tall due to GTK bunglekit.
Similar with TB 102, all seems good -- but I would still like to have a permanent Cc: in the new message window instead of the ellipsized list top-right. I guess they had to do that due to the 2X edit box height for To: and Subject: due to bunglekit+3 to save window real estate.
Progress ? :( ?
Also,
Let me know if anyone is seeing flaky behavior of the scroll-bar on the right side displaying and hiding. It's something I'll file with Mozilla, but want to confirm if anyone else has noticed.
Basically, depending on whether you are typing in an edit box, or move the mouse, the scroll bar will partially display. About 1/2 normal width. It will then partially hide what it showed, usually leaving a ghost of the scrollbar about 5 pixel thick (or maybe full-width in some parts).
I've gathered a couple of screenshots, but I'm curious if anyone else has see this behavior. The scrollbar works, it's just annoying to see parts of it come and go as I type or when the mouse or touchpad is brushed.
This strange scrollbar behaviour didn't start with 102, I had it before. And I still have it and think it's annoying. When the scrollbar finally shows the usable width - just klick one pixel too far left, and you get anything but a scrolling bar. So yes, someone else has noticed :)
On 2022-09-28 15:06:19 David C. Rankin wrote:
|All, | | With FF 102, aside from Carlos's ulimit issue, font rendering seems | much improved. However, the bookmark and menu entry height is still 2X | too tall due to GTK bunglekit. | | Similar with TB 102, all seems good -- but I would still like to have a |permanent Cc: in the new message window instead of the ellipsized list |top-right. I guess they had to do that due to the 2X edit box height for | To: and Subject: due to bunglekit+3 to save window real estate. | | Progress ? :( ?
Heh. The waste of space in Gnome applications' widgets has always been one of the things that make me avoid it whenever possible. Leslie -- Platform: GNU/Linux Hardware: x86_64 Distribution: openSUSE Leap 15.4 Desktop Environment: Trinity Qt: 3.5.0 TDE: R14.0.12 tde-config: 1.0
On Thu, 29 Sep 2022 14:16 -0500, David C. Rankin wrote:
Basically, depending on whether you are typing in an edit box, or move the mouse, the scroll bar will partially display. About 1/2 normal width. It will then partially hide what it showed, usually leaving a ghost of the scrollbar about 5 pixel thick (or maybe full-width in some parts).
In the settings, you can check 'Always show scrollbars'. (I have FF 104, but I assume it's the same with FF 102.)
On 9/30/22 04:35, Siard wrote:
On Thu, 29 Sep 2022 14:16 -0500, David C. Rankin wrote:
Basically, depending on whether you are typing in an edit box, or move the mouse, the scroll bar will partially display. About 1/2 normal width. It will then partially hide what it showed, usually leaving a ghost of the scrollbar about 5 pixel thick (or maybe full-width in some parts).
In the settings, you can check 'Always show scrollbars'.
(I have FF 104, but I assume it's the same with FF 102.)
thanks, but... I don't want to always show the scrollbar -- I just want it to work properly :) -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.
On Sat, 1 Oct 2022 21:44 -0500, David C. Rankin wrote:
On 9/30/22 04:35, Siard wrote:
On Thu, 29 Sep 2022 14:16 -0500, David C. Rankin wrote:
Basically, depending on whether you are typing in an edit box, or move the mouse, the scroll bar will partially display. About 1/2 normal width. It will then partially hide what it showed, usually leaving a ghost of the scrollbar about 5 pixel thick (or maybe full-width in some parts).
In the settings, you can check 'Always show scrollbars'.
(I have FF 104, but I assume it's the same with FF 102.)
thanks,
but... I don't want to always show the scrollbar -- I just want it to work properly :)
As soon as I move the mouse cursor over that narrow scroll bar, it gets its normal width, and is very usable. Doesn't that work in FF 102?
On 2022-10-02 11:34, Siard wrote:
On Sat, 1 Oct 2022 21:44 -0500, David C. Rankin wrote:
On 9/30/22 04:35, Siard wrote:
On Thu, 29 Sep 2022 14:16 -0500, David C. Rankin wrote:
Basically, depending on whether you are typing in an edit box, or move the mouse, the scroll bar will partially display. About 1/2 normal width. It will then partially hide what it showed, usually leaving a ghost of the scrollbar about 5 pixel thick (or maybe full-width in some parts).
In the settings, you can check 'Always show scrollbars'.
(I have FF 104, but I assume it's the same with FF 102.)
thanks,
but... I don't want to always show the scrollbar -- I just want it to work properly :)
As soon as I move the mouse cursor over that narrow scroll bar, it gets its normal width, and is very usable. Doesn't that work in FF 102?
Edit window, you say? It works fine, for me. I like it. I just resized this window to a small thing so that I get the scrollback. Mouse away, it hides. Mouse in, a tiny scrollbar. Mouse on it, switches to full size. Perfect. Needs a bit of time to get used to it, of course. Thunderbird 102.2. on XFCE, leap 15.3. FF, same thing. The only problem I have with new FF (102.3esr) is that it has silently crashed on me at least once. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.3 x86_64 at Telcontar)
On Sun, 2 Oct 2022 13:08 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2022-10-02 11:34, Siard wrote:
As soon as I move the mouse cursor over that narrow scroll bar, it gets its normal width, and is very usable. Doesn't that work in FF 102?
Edit window, you say?
It works fine, for me. I like it.
I just resized this window to a small thing so that I get the scrollback. Mouse away, it hides. Mouse in, a tiny scrollbar. Mouse on it, switches to full size. Perfect.
Needs a bit of time to get used to it, of course.
Thunderbird 102.2. on XFCE, leap 15.3.
FF, same thing.
The only problem I have with new FF (102.3esr) is that it has silently crashed on me at least once.
I don't know what you mean by 'edit window'. I see no need to resize the window. But this is FF 104.0.2-2.1 in TW.
On 10/2/22 06:08, Carlos E. R. wrote:
Edit window, you say?
It works fine, for me. I like it.
I just resized this window to a small thing so that I get the scrollback. Mouse away, it hides. Mouse in, a tiny scrollbar. Mouse on it, switches to full size. Perfect.
Needs a bit of time to get used to it, of course.
Thunderbird 102.2. on XFCE, leap 15.3.
FF, same thing.
The only problem I have with new FF (102.3esr) is that it has silently crashed on me at least once.
That's good feedback Carlos, I see it most often on StackOverflow. It may be a website specific issue depending on how the site has <div>s defined. I notice if there are headers and footers with scrolling contents in between -- that's what causes the scrollbar issue. (of course there are a lot of sites that do things that way) -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.
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