[opensuse] Substitutes for Akonadi programs
Hi I find it hard to accept having an instance of mysql sucking all memory from my system just to handle mail and the like. It's the worst shit database possible to choose. It would be another matter if there was a personal choice of database, as I already use PostgreSQL heavily. So, what substitutes for the following programs are acceptable - - Kmail (Well, Thunderbird) - Akgregator - Konversation - Kopete Not sure I have anything else using Akonadi. I gather that I perhaps also lose some calendar and event handling, which I don't use atm. By "acceptable" I mean not too clumsy user interface (gtk programs are off to a bad start), reasonably new and maintained, etc. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2012/08/22 13:57 (GMT+0200) Kaare Rasmussen composed:
So, what substitutes for the following programs are acceptable -
- Kmail (Well, Thunderbird) - Akgregator - Konversation - Kopete
Not sure I have anything else using Akonadi. I gather that I perhaps also lose some calendar and event handling, which I don't use atm.
By "acceptable" I mean not too clumsy user interface (gtk programs are off to a bad start), reasonably new and maintained, etc.
Remember Netscape? The only GTK app I use covers 3 of your 4 (IM & RSS I do not do): http://www.seamonkey-project.org/doc/features Using it instead of both Firefox and Thunderbird saves on RAM too. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 2012-08-22 15:48, Felix Miata wrote:
Using it instead of both Firefox and Thunderbird saves on RAM too.
True, but the browser part crashes on me now and then, bringing down the mail part too. I prefer them separate for that reason. - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 12.1 x86_64 "Asparagus" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.18 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAlA08cgACgkQIvFNjefEBxrWYACfbwJlG9S3X1HDgTmgDLZSIe9J mekAnRFTYzMlvZVVy+PeAM1BRbUCK8yJ =JpG+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2012/08/22 16:50 (GMT+0200) Carlos E. R. composed:
Felix Miata wrote:
Using it instead of both Firefox and Thunderbird saves on RAM too.
True, but the browser part crashes on me now and then, bringing down the mail part too. I prefer them separate for that reason.
I can't remember a SeaMonkey crashing on Linux here in the past year, or Firefox either. I keep 2 SeaMonkeys (latest openSUSE official release version, and release-next from Mozilla.org) and 3 Firefoxes (3.28 openSUSE rpm, and 2.00.20 & latest release from Mozilla.org) up 24/7 on same 6 page KDE3 desktop. Among them, including Chatzilla, I probably have at least 125 tabs open at any point in time. 160 at once probably isn't at all unusual. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 2012-08-22 21:10, Felix Miata wrote:
I can't remember a SeaMonkey crashing on Linux here in the past year, or Firefox either.
I have them frequently; can be once a week, or several times per hour. For example, it crashes often on the java test page, as I reported somewhere, and it does on a tv schedule page I look at, perhaps because of flash. And yes, I also open tons of tabs - that it does not crash for you means simply that you don't use the same mix as I. - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 12.1 x86_64 "Asparagus" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.18 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAlA1MT4ACgkQIvFNjefEBxraggCaA1nDfvONsWPMTgeo+eWC+8wG 7XQAoKBd8DoHx6yN6d4AUuSlhCJKVcGj =Ehxo -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2012/08/22 21:21 (GMT+0200) Carlos E. R. composed:
Felix Miata wrote:
I can't remember a SeaMonkey crashing on Linux here in the past year, or Firefox either.
I have them frequently; can be once a week, or several times per hour. For example, it crashes often on the java test page, as I reported somewhere, and it does on a tv schedule page I look at, perhaps because of flash.
I keep most TV schedule tabs open in FF2. Only FF 3.6.28 & SM current are allowed Flash, but I do well at avoiding Flash anyway, since most Flash is non-accessible, non-usable, sub-visible waste of time at best. Java I don't even install. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 2012-08-23 00:45, Felix Miata wrote:
On 2012/08/22 21:21 (GMT+0200) Carlos E. R. composed:
Felix Miata wrote:
I can't remember a SeaMonkey crashing on Linux here in the past year, or Firefox either.
I have them frequently; can be once a week, or several times per hour. For example, it crashes often on the java test page, as I reported somewhere, and it does on a tv schedule page I look at, perhaps because of flash.
I keep most TV schedule tabs open in FF2. Only FF 3.6.28 & SM current are allowed Flash, but I do well at avoiding Flash anyway, since most Flash is non-accessible, non-usable, sub-visible waste of time at best. Java I don't even install.
That's cheating :-p - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 12.1 x86_64 "Asparagus" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.18 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAlA1YtkACgkQIvFNjefEBxpUVgCgjzkGynsHJ7dkGC45yi8efsMc 2CMAnRy6v1oxTYOwmSB1ep6qBA6Y0DCE =b7Ww -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 22 Aug 2012 13:57:57 Kaare Rasmussen wrote:
I find it hard to accept having an instance of mysql sucking all memory from my system just to handle mail and the like. It's the worst shit database possible to choose. It would be another matter if there was a personal choice of database, as I already use PostgreSQL heavily.
But there is: alt-f2->"akonadiconsole"->Server->Configure Server->Database driver-
PostgreSQL
- Akgregator
Doesn't use Akonadi anyway
- Konversation - Kopete
Only use Akonadi for addressbook integration, won't suffer if Akonadi is not running. HTH Will -- Will Stephenson, openSUSE Board, Booster, KDE Developer SUSE LINUX GmbH, GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imendörffer, HRB 21284 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstraße 5 90409 Nürnberg Germany -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Hi
database possible to choose. It would be another matter if there was a personal choice of database, as I already use PostgreSQL heavily. But there is:
alt-f2->"akonadiconsole"->Server->Configure Server->Database driver-
PostgreSQL Interesting. Does this actually work? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 08/22/2012 01:57 PM, Kaare Rasmussen wrote:
Hi
I find it hard to accept having an instance of mysql sucking all memory from my system just to handle mail and the like. It's the worst shit database possible to choose. It would be another matter if there was a personal choice of database, as I already use PostgreSQL heavily.
So, what substitutes for the following programs are acceptable -
I am seriously considering Emacs as the alternative for all of the things you ask and for all the other stuff you didn't ask, they are all integrated and from buffer to buffer I can copy cut paste stuff. The learning process is slow but hey it is very rewarding with the sense of peace one and the software does what I mean
- Kmail (Well, Thunderbird)
Gnus is good but I haven't yet fallen in love with it, and for imap usage (not offlineimap) I found it slow, or my tweaking is not good. Hence, Wanderlust is my currend choice, Both can be connected to Bbbd allowing contact information to be accessible from everywhere.
- Akgregator Comes with gnus, wanderlust though gwene.org as NNTP post, there is the newsticker alternative
- Konversation
ERC or RCIRC both are builtin packages of Emacs
- Kopete BitlBee is the option and it will be used in combination with either ERC or RCIRC
Not sure I have anything else using Akonadi. I gather that I perhaps also lose some calendar and event handling, which I don't use atm.
Although there is diary and calendar in Emacs, I found Org-Mode as the best of all. My notes, agenda for the whole year are within it and hey they are plain text files and end allowing me to read them in any system It's an option Togan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Togan Muftuoglu
I am seriously considering Emacs as the alternative for all of the things you ask and for all the other stuff you didn't ask, they are all integrated and from buffer to buffer I can copy cut paste stuff. The learning process is slow but hey it is very rewarding with the sense of peace one and the software does what I mean
Welcome to the club, I took the plunge years ago, The learning curve is steep, but you won't regret it.
Gnus is good but I haven't yet fallen in love with it,
You will, once you get use to the way Gnus blurs the distinction between different sources: mail, Usenet, RSS and Atom feeds, etc.
and for imap usage (not offlineimap) I found it slow, or my tweaking is not good.
You should try "Ma Gnus" (the developmental version of Gnus). Lars put in a lot of work and now imap is super fast. You can get it by doing: #+BEGIN_SRC sh git clone http://git.gnus.org/gnus.git #+END_SRC
BitlBee is the option and it will be used in combination with either ERC or RCIRC
Yes, BitlBee with Erc will handle all your irc and IM needs with one interface.
Although there is diary and calendar in Emacs, I found Org-Mode as the best of all. My notes, agenda for the whole year are within it and hey they are plain text files and end allowing me to read them in any system
Other advantages of Org-mode (off the top of my head): 1. Being plain text one can automatically backed up into a git repo or any other version control system. 2. One can export org files to almost anything. 3. If you program, you can integrate almost any language with org-babel. 4. Very friendly and responsive community. Reported bugs are usually fixed within minutes and the community is very responsive to feature requests. 5. Smartphone integration via MobileOrg. 6. Superb outlining capabilities. 7. Can hyperlink to almost anything. 8. Easy capture of information both inside and outside Emacs with templates. 9. Very powerful and flexible search capabilities. 10. Dynamically generated contents via dblocks. 11. System integration and automation via Emacsclient. If you haven't yet, I suggest you join the Gnus and Org-mode users lists. Charles -- "Are [Linux users] lemmings collectively jumping off of the cliff of reliable, well-engineered commercial software?" (By Matt Welsh)
Hi Charles, On 08/23/2012 10:47 AM, Charles Philip Chan wrote:
Welcome to the club, I took the plunge years ago, The learning curve is steep, but you won't regret it.
Better late than never ;=) Not current as you are but using 24.1 and loving it.
Gnus is good but I haven't yet fallen in love with it,
You will, once you get use to the way Gnus blurs the distinction between different sources: mail, Usenet, RSS and Atom feeds, etc.
See wanderlust makes the same things as well but I haven't found a decent Gnus tutorial where it takes me step by step holding my keyboard :(
and for imap usage (not offlineimap) I found it slow, or my tweaking is not good.
You should try "Ma Gnus" (the developmental version of Gnus). Lars put in a lot of work and now imap is super fast. You can get it by doing:
#+BEGIN_SRC sh git clone http://git.gnus.org/gnus.git #+END_SRC
Now that would not help non org-mode users but did M-W and C-Y
If you haven't yet, I suggest you join the Gnus and Org-mode users lists.
Org-mode I have already, gnus haven't but will consider as I kind a like wanderlust and it has org-mode integration as well As a side question do you have your configs in github so I can creatively borrow stuff from your emacs and gnus settings Togan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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