[opensuse] Linux Compatible All-in-one (printer/copier)

Jeffrey L. Taylor

26 Jan 2013 26 Jan '13

04:55

Our Lexmark printer has died an early death. The drivers were slow and fragile, so I will not be replacing it with another Lexmark. Recommendations or sites with Linux compatibility info wanted. We need one that does photocopies and printing. No landline so fax is useless. Scanner might be nice, but Linux support has been so sparse for the scanner in All-in-One, we don't bother. It needs to be a network (Ethernet or WiFi) printer. TIA, Jeffrey -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

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Patrick Shanahan

26 Jan 26 Jan

05:04

* Jeffrey L. Taylor [01-25-13 23:59]:

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Our Lexmark printer has died an early death. The drivers were slow and fragile, so I will not be replacing it with another Lexmark. Recommendations or sites with Linux compatibility info wanted. We need one that does photocopies and printing. No landline so fax is useless. Scanner might be nice, but Linux support has been so sparse for the scanner in All-in-One, we don't bother. It needs to be a network (Ethernet or WiFi) printer.

HP is probably the best supported printing equipment, now. But check for support of the model you choose on linuxfoundation.org and/or openprinting.org before purchase. ps: I am very happy with my hp color laserjet 2840. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA HOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Doug

05:37

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Our Lexmark printer has died an early death. The drivers were slow and fragile, so I will not be replacing it with another Lexmark. Recommendations or sites with Linux compatibility info wanted. We need one that does photocopies and printing. No landline so fax is useless. Scanner might be nice, but Linux support has been so sparse for the scanner in All-in-One, we don't bother. It needs to be a network (Ethernet or WiFi) printer.

TIA, Jeffrey I have an Epson WP-4530, which is an all-in-one, including FAX. It has USB and Ethernet ports, and of course a phone line input. It is supposed to work wirelessly also, but I don't have that set up. It can do copies and it can also do scanning, from XSane or from LO or OO or GIMP. In addition to scanning from the computer, it will make nice copies from the flat-bed, and it will handle some number of sheets, laid in from a feeder on top. It seems to be fairly frugal with inks (CMYK) and the inks don't smear much. What's more it's

On 01/25/2013 11:55 PM, Jeffrey L. Taylor wrote: pretty fast, and it does two-sided printing. I I have been using the machine regularly and it very rarely misfeeds paper and has never actually jammed. I think the color quality is excellent. (Unlike professional copy machines, it will even copy money! I just had to see what would happen!) I bought this about a year ago, more or less, for just under $200, from an Internet source. I think this model has been superseded, but there is surely one that follows it. Make sure it has the Ethernet connection--now that wireless is a buzz-word, it's possible that some devices don't have the wired connection any more. --doug -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Basil Chupin

05:57

On 26/01/13 15:55, Jeffrey L. Taylor wrote:

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Our Lexmark printer has died an early death. The drivers were slow and fragile, so I will not be replacing it with another Lexmark. Recommendations or sites with Linux compatibility info wanted. We need one that does photocopies and printing. No landline so fax is useless. Scanner might be nice, but Linux support has been so sparse for the scanner in All-in-One, we don't bother. It needs to be a network (Ethernet or WiFi) printer.

Lexmark is EPSON and I have an Epson scanner which is fully supported (in my 12.2 and earlier). Keep in mind that anything "all-in-one" is like going to a medical General Practitioner; but if you want to get proper treatment, you go to a Specialist. So, for copying/scanning I have a dedicated Epson, and for printing I have a dedicated HP printer. BC -- Using openSUSE 12.2 x86_64 KDE 4.10.0 & kernel 3.7.4-1 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel Corsair "Vengeance" RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX550Ti 1GB DDR5 GPU -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Rodney Baker

08:25

On Sat, 26 Jan 2013 16:57:47 Basil Chupin wrote:

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On 26/01/13 15:55, Jeffrey L. Taylor wrote:

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Our Lexmark printer has died an early death. The drivers were slow and fragile, so I will not be replacing it with another Lexmark. Recommendations or sites with Linux compatibility info wanted. We need one that does photocopies and printing. No landline so fax is useless. Scanner might be nice, but Linux support has been so sparse for the scanner in All-in-One, we don't bother. It needs to be a network (Ethernet or WiFi) printer. Lexmark is EPSON and I have an Epson scanner which is fully supported (in my 12.2 and earlier).

I have an HP Photosmart Premium C410 which is fully supported and works extremely well. Never missed a beat. Just be sure to install the latest hplip package (I downloaded and installed the one from HP since it is more up-to- date than even the 12.2 distro one). This is one of the few that I've seen where functionality is equivalent under both Windows and Linux. I have no hesitation in recommending it (in fact, my brother bought one on my recommendation, too). It does auto-duplex printing, has an ADF for printing/scanning/copying and can be connected via USB, wired ethernet or wireless ethernet. Great value for money, IMHO! Well done HP. -- ============================================================== Rodney Baker VK5ZTV rodney.baker@iinet.net.au ============================================================== -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Dennis Gallien

14:15

On Fri, Jan 25 10:55:26 PM Jeffrey L. Taylor wrote:

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Our Lexmark printer has died an early death. The drivers were slow and fragile, so I will not be replacing it with another Lexmark. Recommendations or sites with Linux compatibility info wanted. We need one that does photocopies and printing. No landline so fax is useless. Scanner might be nice, but Linux support has been so sparse for the scanner in All-in-One, we don't bother. It needs to be a network (Ethernet or WiFi) printer.

TIA, Jeffrey

http://www.openprinting.org/printers I have an HP business-class network printer w/duplexer and an HP printer/scanner/copier, both work very well with the HPLIP package. I've used HP printers exclusively; IME the driver package is by far the best. Tip: May be necessary to install the printer via the HP Toolbox rather than YaST, to get all the features of the Toolbox. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Anton Aylward

14:23

Jeffrey L. Taylor said the following on 01/25/2013 11:55 PM:

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Our Lexmark printer has died an early death. The drivers were slow and fragile, so I will not be replacing it with another Lexmark. Recommendations or sites with Linux compatibility info wanted. We need one that does photocopies and printing. No landline so fax is useless. Scanner might be nice, but Linux support has been so sparse for the scanner in All-in-One, we don't bother. It needs to be a network (Ethernet or WiFi) printer.

I've been using Brother laserjets for over a decade - nearly two now. They are long lived, reliable and I've never had problems setting them up. The one I have now was a "good deal", I really had no other incentive to replace the old one. Most everything above the entry-level inkjets which you buy cos its cheaper to buy the package and throw the printer away but keep the cartridges (!) seems to have triple input - network, parallel and usb. What *may* matter is your context. Some models are inherently more suited to 'industrial grade production' than others. If you need a high duty cycle then that is going to be more of a determining factor than anything else: high capacity paper and ink, high wear tolerance. Heck, the old HP Laserjet-II you could throw off a desk (BTDT) and run it flat out all day and everyone and his brother did refills for it. They never seemed to wear out. Do prioritise your requirement list. -- When a subject becomes totally obsolete we make it a required course. -- Peter Drucker -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Jeffrey L. Taylor

15:27

Quoting Anton Aylward :

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Jeffrey L. Taylor said the following on 01/25/2013 11:55 PM: [snip] What *may* matter is your context. Some models are inherently more suited to 'industrial grade production' than others. If you need a high duty cycle then that is going to be more of a determining factor than anything else: high capacity paper and ink, high wear tolerance. Heck, the old HP Laserjet-II you could throw off a desk (BTDT) and run it flat out all day and everyone and his brother did refills for it. They never seemed to wear out.

Do prioritise your requirement list.

This is a good point. We went through three shredders in quick order, each time getting a heavier duty one until we reached low volume office grade. This printer will sit idle for days, print a few pages, and then every month or two print several dozen pages. Location is Austin, Texas which is in year 10 of a drought, so low humidity. Not as bad as my mother's high desert scenario, but drying out and clogging is an occasional problem. Jeffrey -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Patrick Shanahan

15:36

* Jeffrey L. Taylor [01-26-13 10:29]: [...]

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This printer will sit idle for days, print a few pages, and then every month or two print several dozen pages. Location is Austin, Texas which is in year 10 of a drought, so low humidity. Not as bad as my mother's high desert scenario, but drying out and clogging is an occasional problem.

Considering ink drying and clogging print-heads raises status of hp inkjets as the print-heads are part of the cartridge, not the printer. But cleaning/clearing clogged print-heads is expensive. Perhaps enought to consider a laser printer. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA HOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Per Jessen

15:56

Patrick Shanahan wrote:

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* Jeffrey L. Taylor [01-26-13 10:29]: [...]

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This printer will sit idle for days, print a few pages, and then every month or two print several dozen pages. Location is Austin, Texas which is in year 10 of a drought, so low humidity. Not as bad as my mother's high desert scenario, but drying out and clogging is an occasional problem.

Considering ink drying and clogging print-heads raises status of hp inkjets as the print-heads are part of the cartridge, not the printer. But cleaning/clearing clogged print-heads is expensive. Perhaps enought to consider a laser printer.

I would say it's easy enough - we went through exactly that a few years back, and quickly decided to steer clear of inkjets for any printer with low volume. We had a couple of HP All-in-Ones (9000 something) that ended up on the scrap-heap. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (-1.1°C) http://www.dns24.ch/ - free DNS hosting, made in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Hans Witvliet

17:26

-----Original Message----- From: Patrick Shanahan To: opensuse@opensuse.org Subject: Re: [opensuse] Linux Compatible All-in-one (printer/copier) Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2013 10:36:37 -0500 * Jeffrey L. Taylor [01-26-13 10:29]: [...]

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This printer will sit idle for days, print a few pages, and then every month or two print several dozen pages. Location is Austin, Texas which is in year 10 of a drought, so low humidity. Not as bad as my mother's high desert scenario, but drying out and clogging is an occasional problem.

Considering ink drying and clogging print-heads raises status of hp inkjets as the print-heads are part of the cartridge, not the printer. But cleaning/clearing clogged print-heads is expensive. Perhaps enought to consider a laser printer. -----Original Message----- With HP deskjets (ink) the print-head are included in the cartridge. Pro is, that you don't have to clean them (in contrast to other manufactures. Con is, that these carridges are offensive expensive. Also because the three colors are combined in a single sartridge. So just for low volume i presume. That's the reason that I too am looking at a brother single-purpose-laser printer HL4570 (about 370 Euro) Networking, duplex, separate toners... hw -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Patrick Shanahan

17:37

* Hans Witvliet [01-26-13 12:27]: [...]

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With HP deskjets (ink) the print-head are included in the cartridge. Pro is, that you don't have to clean them (in contrast to other manufactures.

You still have to clean them but don't have to junk the printer because a print-head doesn't clear.

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Con is, that these carridges are offensive expensive.

Con is: All OEM cartirdges are expensive except Kodak but they lack good linux suport.

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Also because the three colors are combined in a single sartridge. So just for low volume i presume.

Some are 3-color but usually just the very cheapest printers.

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That's the reason that I too am looking at a brother single-purpose-laser printer HL4570 (about 370 Euro) Networking, duplex, separate toners...

I agree, would probably have Brother except I got a "Very Good Deal"(!tm) on my HP Color LaserJet 2840. Note: presented arguments specific to low to very low volume printing. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA HOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Rodney Baker

17:48

On Sat, 26 Jan 2013 12:37:43 Patrick Shanahan wrote:

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* Hans Witvliet [01-26-13 12:27]: [...]

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With HP deskjets (ink) the print-head are included in the cartridge. Pro is, that you don't have to clean them (in contrast to other manufactures.

You still have to clean them but don't have to junk the printer because a print-head doesn't clear.

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Con is, that these carridges are offensive expensive.

Con is: All OEM cartirdges are expensive except Kodak but they lack good linux suport.

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Also because the three colors are combined in a single sartridge. So just for low volume i presume.

My HP C410 has 5 ink cartridges (CMYK for photos/colour printing with a separate larger black for text), and they're cheaper than for my previous Brother printer. Twice I had the print heads clog up on the Brother (which was a lot dearer when I first purchased it than the HP); the first time the repair cost around $250 (about 1/3rd the original purchase cost); the second time, the printer went for scrap and I bought the HP for less than the repair cost of the Brother. I will never own another Brother printer! The HP's Linux support is far better, too. BTW, I also have a low-cost Samsung ML1610 Lazer which has also worked faultlessly and gets used for larger documents and general printing where I don't need colour or double-sided printing. -- ============================================================== Rodney Baker VK5ZTV rodney.baker@iinet.net.au ============================================================== -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Patrick Shanahan

19:43

* Rodney Baker [01-26-13 12:49]: [...]

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Twice I had the print heads clog up on the Brother (which was a lot dearer when I first purchased it than the HP); the first time the repair cost around $250 (about 1/3rd the original purchase cost); the second time, the printer went for scrap and I bought the HP for less than the repair cost of the Brother. I will never own another Brother printer! The HP's Linux support is far better, too.

I would *only* consider a Brother printer if it was laser.

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BTW, I also have a low-cost Samsung ML1610 Lazer which has also worked faultlessly and gets used for larger documents and general printing where I don't need colour or double-sided printing.

No experience with Samsung printers. I print cheaper with low volume with laser but do not purchase OEM cartridges. Cheaper because I do not have to "clean" the print-heads. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA HOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Doug

19:04

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With HP deskjets (ink) the print-head are included in the cartridge. Pro is, that you don't have to clean them (in contrast to other manufactures. You still have to clean them but don't have to junk the printer because a

* Hans Witvliet [01-26-13 12:27]: [...] print-head doesn't clear.

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Con is, that these carridges are offensive expensive. Con is: All OEM cartirdges are expensive except Kodak but they lack good linux suport.

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Also because the three colors are combined in a single sartridge. So just for low volume i presume. Some are 3-color but usually just the very cheapest printers.

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That's the reason that I too am looking at a brother single-purpose-laser printer HL4570 (about 370 Euro) Networking, duplex, separate toners... I agree, would probably have Brother except I got a "Very Good Deal"(!tm) on my HP Color LaserJet 2840.

Note: presented arguments specific to low to very low volume printing. /snip/ Two things to note: toner for color laserjets is _very_ expensive, and, check very carefully the Linux compatibility of any Brother (or any)

On 01/26/2013 12:37 PM, Patrick Shanahan wrote: printer. Very recently I have read on these lists that Brother printers were not supported. That may have changed, but some years ago I had a monochrome Brother laserjet, and Linux did not recognize it. I gave it to my grandson to do college papers on, from Windows. --doug -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Anton Aylward

19:35

Doug said the following on 01/26/2013 02:04 PM:

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Very recently I have read on these lists that Brother printers were not supported. That may have changed, but some years ago I had a monochrome Brother laserjet, and Linux did not recognize it. I gave it to my grandson to do college papers on, from Windows.

Scurrilous rumours and misinformation. I got my first Brother laser printer in 1992 and it was 'cos it had a 'straight line paper path'. I was fed of the fold-and-curl of the HP Laserjet I had previously. It came with a CD and on the CD was a PPD for Linux. Are there _some_ brother models that don't have PPDs for Linux/UNIX? Possibly, but non that I've looked at in the interval. Could it be that they didn't come with such? Well quite possibly, given that many of the models use postscript or PCL. But in that case why should it matter? "Recognise"? Well, OK that machine back in the 90s wasn't 'recognised' in the sense that there was an entry in the database that came with the distribution I was using -- I think it was Mandrake. But so what? As I said, the printer handled postscript and PCL. I can tell my print driver to deal with that! -- Not all stars become black holes. Some of them become accountants. Many astrophysicists claim this is a semantic argument. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org