[SuSE Linux] Need help with a somewhat off topic Question
A freind of mine just called me, she had got a computer from her father, but at boot up, after HD, CD, CPU data displayed etc verified it halt at a point saying: "Verifying DMI pool data...." and ther it stays, no way to come futher. Never heard about DMI, anyone have a hint of what this can be? Joakim - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e
Joakim Schramm wrote:
A freind of mine just called me, she had got a computer from her father, but at boot up, after HD, CD, CPU data displayed etc verified it halt at a point saying:
"Verifying DMI pool data...." and ther it stays, no way to come futher. Never heard about DMI, anyone have a hint of what this can be?
Joakim
What operating system, windows? DMI is probably some program left over from her father's use. There are so many programs that unknowledgable new users will run on their machines because they are afraid to disturb the system. Probably some anti-virus program checking the system at bootup, but the data got erased and the program hangs. Try removing all non-essential lines from autoexec.bat. It is also good practice, when getting an unknown used hard drive, to do a format c: /U . The /U will write "f"'s or zeros over the disk to completely wipe it. Some windows software protection schemes are now writing unremovable files or fragments to disk, which can only be removed with a /U format. I think they do something like mark a portion of the disk as bad, so normal formats don't remove it. Or some similar low-level trick. - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e
DMI is desktop management interface....got nothing to do with OS. Usually when I've seen a computer hang at this point...it is because the IRQ assignments have changed. Go into the BIOS and look for the option to update the IRQ assignments under PnP hardware....then reboot. All should be fine. Rick Thompson
-----Original Message----- From: owner-suse-linux-e@suse.com [<A HREF="mailto:owner-suse-linux-e@suse.com]On">mailto:owner-suse-linux-e@suse.com]On</A> Behalf Of zentara Sent: Thursday, November 12, 1998 7:39 AM To: suse-linux-e@suse.com Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Need help with a somewhat off topic Question
Joakim Schramm wrote:
A freind of mine just called me, she had got a computer from her father, but at boot up, after HD, CD, CPU data displayed etc verified it halt at a point saying:
"Verifying DMI pool data...." and ther it stays, no way to come futher. Never heard about DMI, anyone have a hint of what this can be?
Joakim
What operating system, windows? DMI is probably some program left over from her father's use. There are so many programs that unknowledgable new users will run on their machines because they are afraid to disturb the system. Probably some anti-virus program checking the system at bootup, but the data got erased and the program hangs.
Try removing all non-essential lines from autoexec.bat.
It is also good practice, when getting an unknown used hard drive, to do a format c: /U . The /U will write "f"'s or zeros over the disk to completely wipe it. Some windows software protection schemes are now writing unremovable files or fragments to disk, which can only be removed with a /U format. I think they do something like mark a portion of the disk as bad, so normal formats don't remove it. Or some similar low-level trick.
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First, thanks for all responses! I know this is off topic, but I have nowere else to turn and that some of the best PC.nerds is here. As the girl is my accounters daugther, it could pay off to help them out:) I had her to come over with the box. It goes all the way to display the page with CPU, etc. in a framed box, Award Bios. Then "Verifying DMI Pool Data .... if something get changed in Bios it also add "Update Success". Then jump to next line and there it hangs. I tried to catch it there to step through startup with F8 (well all Fx tested), no success. Booting with a disk from A: works and the config.sys and autoexec.bat just don't have much inside. config.sys: FILES=20 BUFFERS=20 device=C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND\display.sys con=(ega,,1) Country=046,850,C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND\country.sys autoexec.bat: PATH=C:WINDOWS;C:\BFI; mode con codepage prepare=((850) C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND\ega.cpi) mode con codepage select=850 keyb sv,,C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND\keyboard.sys but maybe thats the problem, that something is missing there? Have taken all cards out, just leaving the Video card, but still same thing happen. Bios Defaults loaded, and tryed some changes... it's notting really make sense... except that the boot record or something is corrupted. But I guess that would produce an error message? Joakim Rick Thompson wrote:
DMI is desktop management interface....got nothing to do with OS. Usually when I've seen a computer hang at this point...it is because the IRQ assignments have changed. Go into the BIOS and look for the option to update the IRQ assignments under PnP hardware....then reboot. All should be fine.
Rick Thompson
-----Original Message----- From: owner-suse-linux-e@suse.com [<A HREF="mailto:owner-suse-linux-e@suse.com]On">mailto:owner-suse-linux-e@suse.com]On</A> Behalf Of zentara Sent: Thursday, November 12, 1998 7:39 AM To: suse-linux-e@suse.com Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Need help with a somewhat off topic Question
Joakim Schramm wrote:
A freind of mine just called me, she had got a computer from her father, but at boot up, after HD, CD, CPU data displayed etc verified it halt at a point saying:
"Verifying DMI pool data...." and ther it stays, no way to come futher. Never heard about DMI, anyone have a hint of what this can be?
Joakim
What operating system, windows? DMI is probably some program left over from her father's use. There are so many programs that unknowledgable new users will run on their machines because they are afraid to disturb the system. Probably some anti-virus program checking the system at bootup, but the data got erased and the program hangs.
Try removing all non-essential lines from autoexec.bat.
It is also good practice, when getting an unknown used hard drive, to do a format c: /U . The /U will write "f"'s or zeros over the disk to completely wipe it. Some windows software protection schemes are now writing unremovable files or fragments to disk, which can only be removed with a /U format. I think they do something like mark a portion of the disk as bad, so normal formats don't remove it. Or some similar low-level trick.
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This message is sent in compliance of the new e-mail bill: SECTION 301, Paragraph (a)(2)(C) of s. 1618 Hi, go into BIOS by F1 or DEL or whatever; there should be an option "load system defaults" or "optimal settings". Choose it, and try to reboot.... alexm On Fri, 13 Nov 1998, Joakim Schramm wrote:
with CPU, etc. in a framed box, Award Bios. Then "Verifying DMI Pool Data .... if something get changed in Bios it also add "Update Success". Then jump to next line and there it hangs.
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alexm wrote:
go into BIOS by F1 or DEL or whatever; there should be an option "load system defaults" or "optimal settings". Choose it, and try to reboot....
alexm
On Fri, 13 Nov 1998, Joakim Schramm wrote:
with CPU, etc. in a framed box, Award Bios. Then "Verifying DMI Pool Data .... if something get changed in Bios it also add "Update Success". Then jump to next line and there it hangs.
Agreed, this is a bios problem, it is occuring before any boot process starts. -- You know you're a little fat if you have stretch marks on your car. -- Cyrus, Chicago Reader 1/22/82 - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e
zentara wrote:
Joakim Schramm wrote:
A freind of mine just called me, she had got a computer from her father, but at boot up, after HD, CD, CPU data displayed etc verified it halt at a point saying:
"Verifying DMI pool data...." and ther it stays, no way to come futher. Never heard about DMI, anyone have a hint of what this can be?
Joakim
Mine does the same thing . . .
What operating system, windows?
And I use Linux.
DMI is probably some program left over from her father's use. There are so many programs that unknowledgable new users will run on their machines because they are afraid to disturb the system. Probably some anti-virus program checking the system at bootup, but the data got erased and the program hangs.
My motherboard and hard drive have never seen Windows. It's part of the motherboard.
Try removing all non-essential lines from autoexec.bat.
It is also good practice, when getting an unknown used hard drive, to do a format c: /U .
/U is unconditional format - bypasses the "Are you sure you're not an idiot?" question.
The /U will write "f"'s or zeros over the disk to completely wipe it.
All DOS (and Linux) formats write the byte F0 in the data area of the drive. If you use the /Q option, this step is not done.
Some windows software protection schemes are now writing unremovable files or fragments to disk, which can only be removed with a /U format.
I bet the /Q will take care of it as it is similar to mkdosfs - it creates the FAT, which rewrites the cluster free list making the entire drive available. George
I think they do something like mark a portion of the disk as bad, so normal formats don't remove it. Or some similar low-level trick.
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George Toft wrote:
zentara wrote:
Well I was completely clueless about DMI, heh,heh. But on to unconditional formats.......since we got going on it. Z> > It is also good practice, when getting an unknown used hard drive, Z> > to do a format c: /U .
GT> /U is unconditional format - bypasses the "Are you sure you're not GT> an idiot?" question.
Z> > The /U will write "f"'s or zeros over Z> > the disk to completely wipe it.
GT> All DOS (and Linux) formats write the byte F0 in the data area of GT> the drive. If you use the /Q option, this step is not done.
From what I have experienced, under dos (or windows), a plain
format c: will just remove all file and directory entries, but the actual files are still sitting there on the disk. There are some recovering utilities that will allow you to retreive them. After a format c: /U there are no traces left, except for some "James Bond level" magnetic remnants. I learned this from playing around with Windows shareware. Some would expire, and not let you re-install. If you did a plain format of the drive, the hidden shareware marker remained. If you did a format c: /U you could reinstall the shareware. This was the "straw that broke the camel's back"; and led me to switch to linux. Microsoft and it's software allies are getting very tricky about hidden disk writes, and they won't talk about it except to say "pay up". - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e
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