[opensuse] smb crucial to desktop acceptance
One issue for me that comes up every-time I help someone with their Linux box is Samba integration into the Desktop. Adding smbfs shares to fstab, or "mount -t smbfs" works great and is crucial to a sysadmin, but I believe that typing smb:// into ANY app must be supported somehow. KIO works great (not sure what Gnome has got?) but I still feel that the whole samba platform must be a system level affair and not stuck into the windows manager; some apps (most non KDE ones) dont understand smb://, so its useless to them. My statement: Shouldn't Samba be treated like USB devices are treated at present? ie. KDE, Gnome knows almost nothing about a particular USB device, it inits the mounting process to some extent, but when mounted ALL apps can access it. ps. I think FUSE is working towards something like this - whats the current status for integration into SUSE? E-Mail disclaimer: http://www.sunspace.co.za/emaildisclaimer.htm -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Monday 12 March 2007, Hans van der Merwe wrote:
My statement: Shouldn't Samba be treated like USB devices are treated at present? ie. KDE, Gnome knows almost nothing about a particular USB device, it inits the mounting process to some extent, but when mounted ALL apps can access it.
But that is the way it IS treated. Once mounted all applications see it as nothing more than a subdirectory. So I don't know what the complaint is. Are you complaining that kde tries to do too much by offering to mount smb shares? Heck, even xfce can do that. Or are you complaining that it doesn't work any more since the shift to cifs? -- _____________________________________ John Andersen
On Mon, 2007-03-12 at 17:02 -0900, John Andersen wrote:
On Monday 12 March 2007, Hans van der Merwe wrote:
My statement: Shouldn't Samba be treated like USB devices are treated at present? ie. KDE, Gnome knows almost nothing about a particular USB device, it inits the mounting process to some extent, but when mounted ALL apps can access it.
But that is the way it IS treated. Once mounted all applications see it as nothing more than a subdirectory.
Thats it, typing smb:// in Konqueror don't mount the share in the traditional way
So I don't know what the complaint is. Are you complaining that kde tries to do too much by offering to mount smb shares? Heck, even xfce can do that.
Or are you complaining that it doesn't work any more since the shift to cifs?
Ok, try the following, Open Konqueror, navigate to some SMB share on other machine with some pics. Right click on pic and "open with Gimp". It complains about not being able to open file: "Could not open '/home/hvdmerwe/smb://maxtor/Photos/SumbandilaSat/P1040528.JPG' for reading: No such file or directory" I understand why it happens, but desktop users wont stand for it. Including my wife. I propose the following: 1. If windows manager, app, etc sees a smb:// mount command it passes this mounting attempt to some underlying smb mount system, it mounts (ask password etc) and passes back the "fiscal" mount point to the calling app. Mount point can prop be in /home/user/smb/servername/share (or su selectable) I dont like saying this, but take a look at how Windows handles this. It does work. ps. Now the only irritation is that windows uses wrong slash to navigate shares, ie "\\" drives me mad. Especially when someone inhouse emails me link to share "\\server\share\file.txt" and I have to replace all \ with /. E-Mail disclaimer: http://www.sunspace.co.za/emaildisclaimer.htm -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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