Suse 10.0 backup problem
I have a machine with Suse 10.0 running with raid 1. One of the disks died, and I wanted to backup the other disk before I installed the new disk to replace the old. Suse was working fine until I executed the tar command to backup the drive excluding /tmp, /proc, and one other I don't recall now. After a few hours, tar came back that it run out of disk space and could not continue and there was a command prompt, but the machine appeared to be locked up. I rebooted, and it would not boot. Got a new installation of suse on a new disk, mounted the /dev/md0 of the old working disk and could read the files, but properties showed it a 100% capacity. The disk is a 148GB and had 27.6 GB on it. Now I don't think it takes the 120GB to backup the 27.6GB, but I was trying to back it up wot a mounted USB drive. There were no files on it. I searched the md0 and found 5 tar.gz files in the /var directory of several hundred MB each. I deleted those 5 files, but it said there was still only 3.5MB free. I ran the ls -s command on all of the directories, and found nothing spectacular. I did get the necessary files recovered including a postgresql database and machine is back in operation now, but I would like to understand what happened. Why would tar cause the disk to go to 100% useage, which probably caused it not to boot, and how would I find out what is taking all of this space? Art
On 12/20/05 11:36 PM, "Art Fore" <art.fore@comcast.net> wrote:
I have a machine with Suse 10.0 running with raid 1. One of the disks died, and I wanted to backup the other disk before I installed the new disk to replace the old. Suse was working fine until I executed the tar command to backup the drive excluding /tmp, /proc, and one other I don't recall now.
I bet no help to you...but- It's not like the data isn't on the first drive... I can't speak for rebuilding a RAID on Linux as I haven't came to that point yet, but on our OSX servers, we just replace the drive and rebuild the raid without missing a beat in the background...should be the same idea in this situation. Folks in OSX land do it via CLI. I'm not that savy... They do something like: diskutil enableRAID mirror disk0 then diskutil repairMirror (RAID device name) (Bad slice) (Good member) (New member) Must be something on that line... You didn't say if it's the slave or master. *If softraid.com ever comes out with a Linux raid, grab it! They have a very, very nice set up. Sorry I couldn't be exact- good luck. -- Thanks, George ``One morning I shot an elephant in my pajamas. How he got in my pajamas, I don't know,``''Animal Crackers,'' 1930.
On Wed, 2005-12-21 at 00:49 -0500, suse_gasjr4wd@mac.com wrote:
On 12/20/05 11:36 PM, "Art Fore" <art.fore@comcast.net> wrote:
I have a machine with Suse 10.0 running with raid 1. One of the disks died, and I wanted to backup the other disk before I installed the new disk to replace the old. Suse was working fine until I executed the tar command to backup the drive excluding /tmp, /proc, and one other I don't recall now.
I bet no help to you...but- It's not like the data isn't on the first drive... I can't speak for rebuilding a RAID on Linux as I haven't came to that point yet, but on our OSX servers, we just replace the drive and rebuild the raid without missing a beat in the background...should be the same idea in this situation. Folks in OSX land do it via CLI. I'm not that savy... They do something like: diskutil enableRAID mirror disk0
<rant> Please, if you don't know about the problem then don't offer advice. Offering commands that are for a totally different OS will not help here. This is -not- OSX. </rant> To the OP, it sounds like you were not backing up to a tape drive and ended up filling up the good harddrive. Boot to the rescue CD/DVD and look in the /dev directory or where ever you told tar to put the backup file and delete it. You should then be able to at least boot the system. Show us the exact command you used for the tar backup. -- Ken Schneider UNIX since 1989, linux since 1994, SuSE since 1998
Ken Schneider wrote:
On Wed, 2005-12-21 at 00:49 -0500, suse_gasjr4wd@mac.com wrote:
On 12/20/05 11:36 PM, "Art Fore" <art.fore@comcast.net> wrote:
I have a machine with Suse 10.0 running with raid 1. One of the disks died, and I wanted to backup the other disk before I installed the new disk to replace the old. Suse was working fine until I executed the tar command to backup the drive excluding /tmp, /proc, and one other I don't recall now.
I bet no help to you...but- It's not like the data isn't on the first drive... I can't speak for rebuilding a RAID on Linux as I haven't came to that point yet, but on our OSX servers, we just replace the drive and rebuild the raid without missing a beat in the background...should be the same idea in this situation. Folks in OSX land do it via CLI. I'm not that savy... They do something like: diskutil enableRAID mirror disk0
<rant> Please, if you don't know about the problem then don't offer advice. Offering commands that are for a totally different OS will not help here. This is -not- OSX. </rant>
To the OP, it sounds like you were not backing up to a tape drive and ended up filling up the good harddrive. Boot to the rescue CD/DVD and look in the /dev directory or where ever you told tar to put the backup file and delete it. You should then be able to at least boot the system. Show us the exact command you used for the tar backup.
I found a --exclude file in the /root directory what was 122 GB using du. I do not remember the exact syntax that I used, but it did include the --exclude /tmp --exclude /dev and --exclude /proc directives. Have deleted it and will try booting from it. Art
Art Fore wrote:
how would I find out what is taking all of this space?
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Hello everyone! I have about 10 xvid movies here on my computer. I would like to burn them to a dvd that I can play in a set top box. I know I need to convert them to mpeg-2 before I can author the dvd. how do I convert the file, and then how would I author the dvd. Thanks! -- --Joe Burgess RootSmart.com Administrator/Webmaster Skype: rootsmart Email: admin@rootsmart.com VoiceMail: (206)-202-ROOT(7668) http://www.rootsmart.com
Joe Burgess wrote:
Hello everyone! I have about 10 xvid movies here on my computer. I would like to burn them to a dvd that I can play in a set top box. I know I need to convert them to mpeg-2 before I can author the dvd. how do I convert the file, and then how would I author the dvd. Thanks!
That is not as simple as you think. If you are a beginer (or not) at this, I suggest you use the VSO DivX to DVD converter v 0.5.2.99 wich is free. I've been using it for a long time with great results (SuSE9.3 and SuSE 10.0). Keep in mind that it is a Windows program but, it runs nicelly under WINE. Hope it helps... -- Rui Santos http://www.ruisantos.com/
On Wed, 2005-12-21 at 11:27 +0000, Rui Santos wrote:
If you are a beginer (or not) at this, I suggest you use the VSO DivX to DVD converter v 0.5.2.99 wich is free. I've been using it for a long time with great results (SuSE9.3 and SuSE 10.0). Keep in mind that it is a Windows program but, it runs nicelly under WINE.
Hope it helps...
Amazing, the first time I got Wine to do something useful for me. The last time I tried it was in the SuSE 8.3 Pro version. Now it works well on the purchased Novell SuSE 10.0 Boxed Version. When the *.exe is started, it asks for a programme to "open (it) with". I just entered 'wine' in the top for a programme name and it installed perfectly on the Dektop. I will test some others, especially for Video Captured *.jpeg files I created with Windows programmes like WinDVD (still looking for a Linux equivalent or test with wine) and edited with VideoReDo (very fast - will test with wine) before. Will keep you posted. :-)) Al
LLLActive@GMX.Net wrote:
On Wed, 2005-12-21 at 11:27 +0000, Rui Santos wrote:
If you are a beginer (or not) at this, I suggest you use the VSO DivX to DVD converter v 0.5.2.99 wich is free. I've been using it for a long time with great results (SuSE9.3 and SuSE 10.0). Keep in mind that it is a Windows program but, it runs nicelly under WINE.
Hope it helps...
Amazing, the first time I got Wine to do something useful for me. The last time I tried it was in the SuSE 8.3 Pro version. Now it works well on the purchased Novell SuSE 10.0 Boxed Version. When the *.exe is started, it asks for a programme to "open (it) with". I just entered 'wine' in the top for a programme name and it installed perfectly on the Dektop.
I will test some others, especially for Video Captured *.jpeg files I created with Windows programmes like WinDVD (still looking for a Linux equivalent or test with wine) and edited with VideoReDo (very fast - will test with wine) before. Will keep you posted.
:-)) Al
Just for you to know... it also works with DVD Shrink... -- Rui Santos http://www.ruisantos.com/
On Wed, 2005-12-21 at 13:13 +0000, Rui Santos wrote:
LLLActive@GMX.Net wrote:
On Wed, 2005-12-21 at 11:27 +0000, Rui Santos wrote:
Amazing, the first time I got Wine to do something useful for me. The last time I tried it was in the SuSE 8.3 Pro version. Now it works well on the purchased Novell SuSE 10.0 Boxed Version. When the *.exe is started, it asks for a programme to "open (it) with". I just entered 'wine' in the top for a programme name and it installed perfectly on the Dektop.
I will test some others, especially for Video Captured *.jpeg files I created with Windows programmes like WinDVD (still looking for a Linux equivalent or test with wine) and edited with VideoReDo (very fast - will test with wine) before. Will keep you posted.
:-)) Just for you to know... it also works with DVD Shrink...
Which version of DVDShrink are you using? I have had -no- luck trying 3.2. I can never get it look at any files/folders, the only choice is Desktop with no option to select a different drive. Version 3.0 works but does not offer Nero support to create an iso file. -- Ken Schneider UNIX since 1989, linux since 1994, SuSE since 1998
Ken Schneider wrote:
On Wed, 2005-12-21 at 13:13 +0000, Rui Santos wrote:
LLLActive@GMX.Net wrote:
On Wed, 2005-12-21 at 11:27 +0000, Rui Santos wrote:
Amazing, the first time I got Wine to do something useful for me. The last time I tried it was in the SuSE 8.3 Pro version. Now it works well on the purchased Novell SuSE 10.0 Boxed Version. When the *.exe is started, it asks for a programme to "open (it) with". I just entered 'wine' in the top for a programme name and it installed perfectly on the Dektop.
I will test some others, especially for Video Captured *.jpeg files I created with Windows programmes like WinDVD (still looking for a Linux equivalent or test with wine) and edited with VideoReDo (very fast - will test with wine) before. Will keep you posted.
:-))
Just for you to know... it also works with DVD Shrink...
Which version of DVDShrink are you using? I have had -no- luck trying 3.2. I can never get it look at any files/folders, the only choice is Desktop with no option to select a different drive. Version 3.0 works but does not offer Nero support to create an iso file.
Hi, I'm using DVDShrink 3.2.0.15. Up to SuSE 9.3, it happend like you said but, you can always hit the re-author button and browse through all of your 'drives'... With SuSE 10.0, you won't need it any more. Everything works great. I've never tryed to find out what the difference from SuSE9.3 to 10.0 is but, my guess is probably the WINE version. -- Rui Santos http://www.ruisantos.com/
On Wednesday 21 December 2005 07:59, LLLActive@GMX.Net wrote:
Keep in mind that it is a Windows program but, it runs nicelly under WINE.
Hope it helps...
Amazing, the first time I got Wine to do something useful for me. The last time I tried it was in the SuSE 8.3 Pro version. Now it works well on the purchased Novell SuSE 10.0 Boxed Version. When the *.exe is started, it asks for a programme to "open (it) with". I just entered 'wine' in the top for a programme name and it installed perfectly on the De[s]ktop.
This thread just aroused my curiosity a little. I looked at Wine years ago, and it couldn't run the Tax software that was keeping my wife with Windows. I haven't looked since, so I forget. Does Wine create a complete environment within Linux, so that all you need is the single Windows program that you wish to run? Or do you still need a working Windows system on your computer that Wine would use as its infrastructure? Kevin
On Wed, 2005-12-21 at 13:44 -0500, elefino wrote:
On Wednesday 21 December 2005 07:59, LLLActive@GMX.Net wrote:
Keep in mind that it is a Windows program but, it runs nicelly under WINE.
Hope it helps...
Amazing, the first time I got Wine to do something useful for me. The last time I tried it was in the SuSE 8.3 Pro version. Now it works well on the purchased Novell SuSE 10.0 Boxed Version. When the *.exe is started, it asks for a programme to "open (it) with". I just entered 'wine' in the top for a programme name and it installed perfectly on the De[s]ktop.
This thread just aroused my curiosity a little. I looked at Wine years ago, and it couldn't run the Tax software that was keeping my wife with Windows. I haven't looked since, so I forget.
Does Wine create a complete environment within Linux, so that all you need is the single Windows program that you wish to run? Or do you still need a working Windows system on your computer that Wine would use as its infrastructure?
Wine kind of does it all by itself, but will not run everything. I tried to install Nero to go along with DVDshrink3.2 and it only trips over it's own feet. -- Ken Schneider UNIX since 1989, linux since 1994, SuSE since 1998
elefino wrote:
On Wednesday 21 December 2005 07:59, LLLActive@GMX.Net wrote:
Keep in mind that it is a Windows program but, it runs nicelly under WINE.
Hope it helps...
Amazing, the first time I got Wine to do something useful for me. The last time I tried it was in the SuSE 8.3 Pro version. Now it works well on the purchased Novell SuSE 10.0 Boxed Version. When the *.exe is started, it asks for a programme to "open (it) with". I just entered 'wine' in the top for a programme name and it installed perfectly on the De[s]ktop.
This thread just aroused my curiosity a little. I looked at Wine years ago, and it couldn't run the Tax software that was keeping my wife with Windows. I haven't looked since, so I forget.
Does Wine create a complete environment within Linux, so that all you need is the single Windows program that you wish to run? Or do you still need a working Windows system on your computer that Wine would use as its infrastructure?
Kevin
It simulates a windows system. You do not need a windows installation nor a serial key. Don't be too confident. Despite WINE improvements, it still doesn't run everything. -- Rui Santos http://www.ruisantos.com/
On Wednesday 21 December 2005 13:50, Rui Santos wrote:
It simulates a windows system. You do not need a windows installation nor a serial key. Don't be too confident. Despite WINE improvements, it still doesn't run everything.
How about ActiveX stuff? Can they do that yet? I've got a WinXP screen-saver at the office that I really like (the MarineAquarium and the Goldfish from SereneScreen.com), which simply has no peers in Linux. Hmmm. Must look into Wine again. Kevin
elefino wrote:
On Wednesday 21 December 2005 13:50, Rui Santos wrote:
It simulates a windows system. You do not need a windows installation nor a serial key. Don't be too confident. Despite WINE improvements, it still doesn't run everything.
How about ActiveX stuff? Can they do that yet?
I've got a WinXP screen-saver at the office that I really like (the MarineAquarium and the Goldfish from SereneScreen.com), which simply has no peers in Linux. Hmmm. Must look into Wine again.
Kevin
Try it out. If at first you don't succeed, google for it... -- Rui Santos http://www.ruisantos.com/
On 12/21/05, Joe Burgess <reeseslover531@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello everyone! I have about 10 xvid movies here on my computer. I would like to burn them to a dvd that I can play in a set top box. I know I need to convert them to mpeg-2 before I can author the dvd. how do I convert the file, and then how would I author the dvd. Thanks!
The right tool is transcode (www.ytranscoding.org). There are packages for SuSE on packman's site, but unfortunately the current version is not working, so you'll need to compile from source. On that site, you can find a link to a script named AviToVob, which makes just this - converts avi files to ready to burn DVD: http://inferno.slug.org/cgi-bin/wiki?AviToVob Cheers -- -- Svetoslav Milenov (Sunny)
On 12/21/05, Carl Hartung <suselinux@cehartung.com> wrote:
On Wednesday 21 December 2005 10:20, Sunny wrote:
The right tool is transcode (www.ytranscoding.org). <snippage>
Are my indexes broken or is this actually a 'hijacked' thread with the subject line changed?
- Carl
For me looks like a new thread, but I do not keep everything, so it's possible that I have deleted the original thread. -- -- Svetoslav Milenov (Sunny)
On Wednesday 21 December 2005 10:28, Sunny wrote:
For me looks like a new thread
According to the message sources, the OP hijacked Art's "SUSE 10.0 backup problem". Both topics share the reference number 43A8DBD4.2080001@comcast.net tsk tsk! At least I don't have to tend to my KMail indexes. - Carl
On Wed, 2005-12-21 at 09:28 -0600, Sunny wrote:
On 12/21/05, Carl Hartung <suselinux@cehartung.com> wrote:
On Wednesday 21 December 2005 10:20, Sunny wrote:
The right tool is transcode (www.ytranscoding.org). <snippage>
Are my indexes broken or is this actually a 'hijacked' thread with the subject line changed?
- Carl
For me looks like a new thread, but I do not keep everything, so it's possible that I have deleted the original thread.
From the archives web site:
[SLE] Suse 10.0 backup problem Art Fore (Wed Dec 21 2005 - 05:36:36 CET) Re: [SLE] Suse 10.0 backup problem suse_gasjr4wd_at_mac.com (Wed Dec 21 2005 - 06:49:33 CET) Re: [SLE] Suse 10.0 backup problem Ken Schneider (Wed Dec 21 2005 - 14:06:52 CET) Re: [SLE] Suse 10.0 backup problem Per Jessen (Wed Dec 21 2005 - 08:44:36 CET) [SLE] how to convert and author a dvd Joe Burgess (Wed Dec 21 2005 - 12:21:30 CET) Re: [SLE] how to convert and author a dvd Rui Santos (Wed Dec 21 2005 - 12:27:05 CET) Re: [SLE] how to convert and author a dvd LLLActive_at_GMX.Net (Wed Dec 21 2005 - 13:59:15 CET) Re: [SLE] how to convert and author a dvd Rui Santos (Wed Dec 21 2005 - 14:13:46 CET) Re: [SLE] how to convert and author a dvd Sunny (Wed Dec 21 2005 - 16:20:07 CET) Re: [SLE] how to convert and author a dvd Carl Hartung (Wed Dec 21 2005 - 16:23:45 CET) Re: [SLE] how to convert and author a dvd Sunny (Wed Dec 21 2005 - 16:28:27 CET) Re: [SLE] how to convert and author a dvd Carl Hartung (Wed Dec 21 2005 - 16:35:43 CET) Yep, looks like Joe Burgess hijacked the thread. Perhaps a lesson on how to start a new message is needed. -- Ken Schneider UNIX since 1989, linux since 1994, SuSE since 1998
On Wednesday 21 December 2005 10:51, Ken Schneider wrote: [...]
Yep, looks like Joe Burgess hijacked the thread. Perhaps a lesson on how to start a new message is needed.
In KMail, with any list-message open, just click the list address. KMail starts a blank message addressed to the list and doesn't bring along any unnecessary or incorrect stuff (like inappropriate header bits). Of course, if other mail readers won't do that, then they must be deficient... <gdr&h> Kevin (expecting, any minute, that an irate Mutt user will point out all the stuff that Mutt does, that KMail can't)
* elefino <kevinmcl@magma.ca> [12-21-05 13:58]:
Kevin (expecting, any minute, that an irate Mutt user will point out all the stuff that Mutt does, that KMail can't)
No need. You already acknowledge the _fact_. -- Patrick Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org @ http://counter.li.org HOG # US1244711 Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2
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