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Marc Bunce

9 Dec 2001 9 Dec '01

09:16

Hi everyone I have just switched to suse 7.3 pro from red hat 7.2 last weekend and was wondering if suse have a program similar to red hat rawhide. I have a lot of software in srpm and cant seem to build it due to different locations, etc thankyou

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philippt＠t-online.de

9 Dec 9 Dec

11:21

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* Marc Bunce [09 Dec 2001 20:16:26 +1100]:

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I have just switched to suse 7.3 pro from red hat 7.2 last weekend

A very wise decision indeed, if I may say so ;-)

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and was wondering if suse have a program similar to red hat rawhide.

What does rawhide do?

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I have a lot of software in srpm and cant seem to build it due to different locations, etc

Is this stuff that's not on the CDs/DVD? If yes, it's up to you to modify the SRPMs. If there is also a version on our disks, you might have a look at that and modify yours accordingly. BTW, locations aren't that different. The only significant difference is that init scripts are in /etc/init.d and they have to have a LSB compliant header in order to be run at the right levels. Philipp -- Penguins to save the dinosaurs -- Handelsblatt on Linux for S/390

Terence McCarthy

15:28

New subject: [SLE] new to suse

On Sunday 09 December 2001 09:16, Marc Bunce wrote:

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Hi everyone I have just switched to suse 7.3 pro from red hat 7.2 last weekend

Welcome to the better distribution! Terence

Karol Pietrzak

20:22

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On 9 Dec 2001, Terence McCarthy wrote:

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Welcome to the better distribution!

I'd hate to start (yet another) flame war, but I'd like to introduce to the new members of SLE why I switched. I don't like the fact that RedHat is far from FHS compliant, let alone LSB compliant. I also don't like the fact that RedHat .X releases are very buggy (IIRC, 7.0 was the most buggy distro to date), and uses beta software (anyone remember the gcc 2.96 fiasco?). -- Karol Pietrzak PGP KeyID: 3A1446A0

Jon

20:57

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Well all that is true, but I am always surprised that more people have not noticed that ext3 is the _default_ file system. I felt that was the most irresponsible thing a distro could do. This FS has show numerous problems (Read lkml ) and is the first time out of the gate so to speak, should have been an option. SuSE I respected that Reiser was always an option with 4 releases, and still everyone flamed Reiser as "experimental" I wonder why some much credibility has been gived to ext3, the name? Not to say this FS will not mature, but wow, default during install? my compnay is planning not to cert 7.2 just for that reason and wait for 7.3 Regards, Jon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karol Pietrzak" To: Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2001 12:22 PM Subject: Re: [SLE] new to suse

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On 9 Dec 2001, Terence McCarthy wrote:

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Welcome to the better distribution!

I'd hate to start (yet another) flame war, but I'd like to introduce to the new members of SLE why I switched. I don't like the fact that RedHat is far from FHS compliant, let alone LSB compliant. I also don't like the fact that RedHat .X releases are very buggy (IIRC, 7.0 was the most buggy distro to date), and uses beta software (anyone remember the gcc 2.96 fiasco?).

-- Karol Pietrzak PGP KeyID: 3A1446A0

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Jesse Marlin

10 Dec 10 Dec

15:23

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Another thing that swayed me to SuSE was when they changed from rpm v3.? to v4.? in an upgrade package for 6.2. The package format was not backward compatible. I think they make some pretty foolish decisions at RH. Jon writes:

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Well all that is true, but I am always surprised that more people have not noticed that ext3 is the _default_ file system. I felt that was the most irresponsible thing a distro could do. This FS has show numerous problems (Read lkml ) and is the first time out of the gate so to speak, should have been an option. SuSE I respected that Reiser was always an option with 4 releases, and still everyone flamed Reiser as "experimental" I wonder why some much credibility has been gived to ext3, the name? Not to say this FS will not mature, but wow, default during install?

my compnay is planning not to cert 7.2 just for that reason and wait for 7.3

Regards,

Jon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karol Pietrzak" To: Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2001 12:22 PM Subject: Re: [SLE] new to suse

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On 9 Dec 2001, Terence McCarthy wrote:

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Welcome to the better distribution!

I'd hate to start (yet another) flame war, but I'd like to introduce to the new members of SLE why I switched. I don't like the fact that RedHat is far from FHS compliant, let alone LSB compliant. I also don't like the fact that RedHat .X releases are very buggy (IIRC, 7.0 was the most buggy distro to date), and uses beta software (anyone remember the gcc 2.96 fiasco?).

-- Karol Pietrzak PGP KeyID: 3A1446A0

Monte Milanuk

9 Dec 9 Dec

21:53

New subject: [SLE] new to suse

On 9 Dec 2001, Marc Bunce wrote:

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Hi everyone I have just switched to suse 7.3 pro from red hat 7.2 last weekend and

Congrats.

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was wondering if suse have a program similar to red hat rawhide.

No. SuSE doesn't really have any sort of public beta program. Actually, now that I think of it, Rawhide is more of a public alpha, kind of like Debian Sid. For those out there not familiar w/ RH, it's where you often end up going if you want a prepackaged binary rpm for something that is not available yet in the mainline distro, either at all or in a newer release.

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I have a lot of software in srpm and cant seem to build it due to different locations, etc

Yep. Welcome to a RedHat dominated RPM world. I am getting kind of frustrated w/ this myself. Basically, if it doesn't install (sometimes) or build on a SuSE system, then I guess you need to either build an RPM yourself, or install from sources. Even then, you may end up having to tweak some config files due to some filesystem differences. Supposedly SuSE is more 'right' than RedHat in this respect, for what good it does the end user. So much for everybody abiding by the LSB and File System Hiearchy.

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thankyou

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