[opensuse] zmd mysteries
This whole ZMD business snuck up on me when I updated from 10.0 to 10.2. Suddenly it was there and didn't seem to be working. Right now I have an empty catalog -- probably as a result of desperate and somewhat misguided screwing around -- and no idea of how to create a useful catalog. I found out a little about zmd through a Google search, but so far I haven't found any useful overview documentation. So -- 1. If I have an empty catalog list (I found that out by calling zen-installer), how do I create a useful catalog list? 2. Where can I find an overview of ZEN and its buddies? 3. What is the current relationship between ZEN and Yast? Paul -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Dňa St 7. Marec 2007 18:42 Paul Abrahams napísal:
This whole ZMD business snuck up on me when I updated from 10.0 to 10.2. Suddenly it was there and didn't seem to be working. Right now I have an empty catalog -- probably as a result of desperate and somewhat misguided screwing around -- and no idea of how to create a useful catalog. I found out a little about zmd through a Google search, but so far I haven't found any useful overview documentation. So --
1. If I have an empty catalog list (I found that out by calling zen-installer), how do I create a useful catalog list?
Easiest way is to start YaST module to register the system again.
2. Where can I find an overview of ZEN and its buddies?
What kind of information are you looking for?
3. What is the current relationship between ZEN and Yast?
Still the same: http://en.opensuse.org/Understanding_zmd Stano -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 3/8/07, Stanislav Visnovsky
Still the same: http://en.opensuse.org/Understanding_zmd
is the paragraph below (from the link you provided) correct? "libzypp is the new package/patch/pattern/product management library written in C++. Currently, it installs, upgrades and removes packages by running "rpm" on the command-line. libzypp also contains a dependency resolver" libzypp funtionality is provided by "rpm"? Or, should that say "rug"? p -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Dňa Št 8. Marec 2007 14:43 Peter Van Lone napísal:
On 3/8/07, Stanislav Visnovsky
wrote: Still the same: http://en.opensuse.org/Understanding_zmd
is the paragraph below (from the link you provided) correct?
"libzypp is the new package/patch/pattern/product management library written in C++. Currently, it installs, upgrades and removes packages by running "rpm" on the command-line. libzypp also contains a dependency resolver"
libzypp funtionality is provided by "rpm"? Or, should that say "rug"?
rug is a command line tool to talk to ZMD. ZMD talks to libzypp for high-level software management operations (e.g. dependency resolution). libzypp calls rpm to install/remove the packages. opensuse.org contains a lot of links for this topic, e.g. http://en.opensuse.org/Libzypp Stano -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday 08 March 2007 7:40 am, Stanislav Visnovsky wrote:
2. Where can I find an overview of ZEN and its buddies?
What kind of information are you looking for?
What is ZEN? What does it do?
3. What is the current relationship between ZEN and Yast?
Still the same: http://en.opensuse.org/Understanding_zmd
That writeup (which I had seen before) is quite opaque. It starts with the statement: This page will contain a little about the internal working of Zmd system. but it never says what the Zmd system is or does. Then it goes on to ask questions without answering them: * What happens when I add an yast source? * What happens when I add a zmd? * What are the resource eaters during normal operation? * How to see debug information to know whats happening in my Zmd? I guess that a zmd and Zmd are two different things, judging by questions 2 and 4, but that relationship is not explained, nor is it ever explained what a zmd is or how one obtains a useful collection of zmds. Paul -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Dňa Št 8. Marec 2007 18:22 Paul Abrahams napísal:
On Thursday 08 March 2007 7:40 am, Stanislav Visnovsky wrote:
2. Where can I find an overview of ZEN and its buddies?
What kind of information are you looking for?
What is ZEN? What does it do?
3. What is the current relationship between ZEN and Yast?
Still the same: http://en.opensuse.org/Understanding_zmd
That writeup (which I had seen before) is quite opaque. It starts with the statement:
This page will contain a little about the internal working of Zmd system.
but it never says what the Zmd system is or does. Then it goes on to ask questions without answering them:
* What happens when I add an yast source?
You add the source to libzypp database. If you also have 'Synchronize with ZENworks' selected, 'rug' will be used to add the source to ZMD as well.
* What happens when I add a zmd?
I assume add a source to zmd. In this case, the source will be added to YaST (libzypp) after a while.
* What are the resource eaters during normal operation?
The database refresh means a complete scan of all repositories from scratch. That's my understanding.
* How to see debug information to know whats happening in my Zmd?
Watch /var/log/zmd-*. You can also get more details by 'rug set-prefs log-level debug'.
I guess that a zmd and Zmd are two different things, judging by questions 2 and 4, but that relationship is not explained, nor is it ever explained what a zmd is or how one obtains a useful collection of zmds.
I don't understand this :( Stano -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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Paul Abrahams
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Peter Van Lone
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Stanislav Visnovsky