On Mon, Jun 10, 2019 at 9:56 AM Daniel Bauer wrote:

On 10.06.19 09:43, gumb wrote:

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On 10/06/2019 09:14, Felix Miata wrote:

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PhotoQT opens to black screen with a very generic looking panel icon, and no discernable way to open any images or camera. LXImage seems too simple, no apparent way to get pix from a Camera. YaST2 doesn't make it too easy to find a Camera app, at least, not a non-GTK-based one. KDE's Digikam requires KF5Contacts, which seems like an address book thingie I shouldn't need to have cluttering this simple installation.

Any suggestions?

xv? Quite simple. -- Roger Oberholtzer -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 11.06.19 03:56, Felix Miata wrote:

Roger Oberholtzer composed on 2019-06-10 10:59 (UTC+0200):

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Daniel Bauer wrote:

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e.g. Kuickshow (http://kuickshow.sourceforge.net/). That page shows

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I run Kuickshow on 42.3, found an rpm somewhere, should be easy to find using google

It's not in standard 15.1 repos.

Unfortunately not. But fortunately there is somebody nice who cares about this jewel: https://build.opensuse.org/package/show/home:mad_soft/kuickshow -- Daniel Bauer photographer Basel Málaga https://www.patreon.com/danielbauer https://www.daniel-bauer.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 06/10/2019 08:56 PM, Felix Miata wrote:

It's not in standard 15.1 repos.

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xv? Quite simple. I think not. It opens to an indefinite mousetype splash screen announcing unregistered copy. Neither user nor I have eyes for mousetype, which is also the condition of user window UI and its file picker. :-(

Kwickshow is a KDE package. you would probably end up pulling in quite a bit of the KDE libraries along with its install. At that point you might as well install Kview or Gwenview. For a lightweight viewer, I was impressed with GPicView 0.2.4 (LXDE) that is Gtk based and you likely already have the libraries installed. Another is Nomacs. Both should be in the standard repos. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Op donderdag 4 juli 2019 17:12:32 CEST schreef DennisG:

On 7/3/19 7:04 PM, David C. Rankin wrote:

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On 06/10/2019 08:56 PM, Felix Miata wrote:

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It's not in standard 15.1 repos.

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xv? Quite simple.

I think not. It opens to an indefinite mousetype splash screen announcing unregistered copy. Neither user nor I have eyes for mousetype, which is also the condition of user window UI and its file picker. :-(

Kwickshow is a KDE package. you would probably end up pulling in quite a bit of the KDE libraries along with its install. At that point you might as well install Kview or Gwenview.

I could be mistaken, but I think that Kview and Kwickshow are long gone

You're not mistaken. If they would still be in the KDE collection, they'd be in Tumbleweed and they aren't. These days Gwenview is the default.

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* Daniel Bauer [07-13-19 14:55]:

Am 04.07.19 um 17:57 schrieb Knurpht-openSUSE:

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Op donderdag 4 juli 2019 17:12:32 CEST schreef DennisG:

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On 7/3/19 7:04 PM, David C. Rankin wrote:

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On 06/10/2019 08:56 PM, Felix Miata wrote:

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It's not in standard 15.1 repos.

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xv? Quite simple.

I think not. It opens to an indefinite mousetype splash screen announcing unregistered copy. Neither user nor I have eyes for mousetype, which is also the condition of user window UI and its file picker. :-(

Kwickshow is a KDE package. you would probably end up pulling in quite a bit of the KDE libraries along with its install. At that point you might as well install Kview or Gwenview.

I could be mistaken, but I think that Kview and Kwickshow are long gone

You're not mistaken. If they would still be in the KDE collection, they'd be in Tumbleweed and they aren't. These days Gwenview is the default.

Which is *extremely* sad. Gwenview is in no way an alternative to kuickshow, with all its menues, backgrounds, settings, tabs, things that take away space, use power and memory, complicate to have several images in separate, freely movable windows...

I am happy that it still exists for 42.3, which - also for the nvidia problems - might be my last openSuse after 20 years...

nvidia problems ??? I have

inxi -Gx Graphics: Device-1: NVIDIA GF106 [GeForce GTS 450] vendor: PNY driver: nvidia v: 390.116 bus ID: 03:00.0 Display: x11 server: X.org 1.20.5 driver: nvidia unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,nouveau,vesa resolution: <xdpyinfo missing> OpenGL: renderer: GeForce GTS 450/PCIe/SSE2 v: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 390.116 direct render: Yes

using NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-390.116-custom.run with no problems and that's an *old* card. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Le 14/07/2019 à 11:31, Daniel Bauer a écrit :

it and am not able to compile from source. When security updates for 42.3 end

you can just keep running like this. If you don't make risky things on the net, and don't use it as a server, there is very little thrill jdd -- http://dodin.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 7/14/19 11:31 AM, Daniel Bauer wrote:

Am 13.07.19 um 22:56 schrieb Patrick Shanahan:

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* Daniel Bauer [07-13-19 14:55]:

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Am 04.07.19 um 17:57 schrieb Knurpht-openSUSE:

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Op donderdag 4 juli 2019 17:12:32 CEST schreef DennisG:

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On 7/3/19 7:04 PM, David C. Rankin wrote:

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On 06/10/2019 08:56 PM, Felix Miata wrote: > It's not in standard 15.1 repos. > >> xv? Quite simple. > > I think not. It opens to an indefinite mousetype splash screen > announcing > unregistered copy. Neither user nor I have eyes for mousetype, > which is > also the condition of user window UI and its file picker. :-(

Kwickshow is a KDE package. you would probably end up pulling in quite a bit of the KDE libraries along with its install. At that point you might as well install Kview or Gwenview.

I could be mistaken, but I think that Kview and Kwickshow are long gone

You're not mistaken. If they would still be in the KDE collection, they'd be in Tumbleweed and they aren't. These days Gwenview is the default.

Which is *extremely* sad. Gwenview is in no way an alternative to kuickshow, with all its menues, backgrounds, settings, tabs, things that take away space, use power and memory, complicate to have several images in separate, freely movable windows...

I am happy that it still exists for 42.3, which - also for the nvidia problems - might be my last openSuse after 20 years...

nvidia problems ???

I have    > inxi -Gx    Graphics:  Device-1: NVIDIA GF106 [GeForce GTS 450] vendor: PNY driver:    nvidia v: 390.116 bus ID: 03:00.0               Display: x11 server: X.org 1.20.5 driver: nvidia unloaded:               fbdev,modesetting,nouveau,vesa resolution: <xdpyinfo missing>               OpenGL: renderer: GeForce GTS 450/PCIe/SSE2 v: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 390.116                  direct render: Yes

using NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-390.116-custom.run with no problems and that's an *old* card.

It is impossible to run nvidia on my asus laptop. Old story. Many said it's possible, but nobody could hint me how to make it possible. Not on this list, not in the forum, not in bugs.

On my desktop 42.3 it works (no intel/nvidia mix, only nvidia), but I read a lot that makes me fear it wouldn't work after an update to 15x.

Anyway, if there is no kuickshow - a program I use every day and for which there is no usable replacement - I cannot upgrade. I simply need it and am not able to compile from source. When security updates for 42.3 end I'll have to check what there is on win, although I hate even thinking about it :-(

You can still build it from source. The last release was just a year ago[0]. You can also create an AppImage out of it and use it forever. OBS can produce AppImages[1]. [0]: https://github.com/KDE/kuickshow/releases [1]: https://github.com/AppImage/AppImageKit/wiki/Using-Open-Build-Service -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

* Daniel Bauer [07-14-19 15:19]:

Am 14.07.19 um 19:37 schrieb Oleksii Vilchanskyi:

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Anyway, if there is no kuickshow - a program I use every day and for which there is no usable replacement - I cannot upgrade. I simply need it and am not able to compile from source. When security updates for 42.3 end I'll have to check what there is on win, although I hate even thinking about it :-(

You can still build it from source. The last release was just a year ago[0]. You can also create an AppImage out of it and use it forever. OBS can produce AppImages[1].

[0]: https://github.com/KDE/kuickshow/releases [1]: https://github.com/AppImage/AppImageKit/wiki/Using-Open-Build-Service

Thank you for the hint. I've read through the AppImg page and must confess that it wouldn't make much difference if it was written in Chinese :-) This is not critique about the page, it just refers to my skills...

But it lets me hope that I could find somebody who can (and does) build an appImage of this wonderful little program, so that it works on 15.1 and in future...

One question, though: if I have, let's say, 8 kuickshow windows open, will there be a difference using appImage or "conventional" package? Wouldn't an appImage load all needed "basics" again for each instance, while the conventional could share them? If I see this wrong, please correct me.

appimage makes the program install work like on wonders, brings all required with it and does not depend on your system having anything except support for appimage. but it also bring bloat and possible security problems. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

* Carlos E. R. [07-14-19 07:12]:

On 13/07/2019 22.56, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

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* Daniel Bauer <> [07-13-19 14:55]:

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Am 04.07.19 um 17:57 schrieb Knurpht-openSUSE:

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Op donderdag 4 juli 2019 17:12:32 CEST schreef DennisG:

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On 7/3/19 7:04 PM, David C. Rankin wrote:

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On 06/10/2019 08:56 PM, Felix Miata wrote: > It's not in standard 15.1 repos.

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You're not mistaken. If they would still be in the KDE collection, they'd be in Tumbleweed and they aren't. These days Gwenview is the default.

Which is *extremely* sad. Gwenview is in no way an alternative to kuickshow, with all its menues, backgrounds, settings, tabs, things that take away space, use power and memory, complicate to have several images in separate, freely movable windows...

I am happy that it still exists for 42.3, which - also for the nvidia problems - might be my last openSuse after 20 years...

nvidia problems ???

I have

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inxi -Gx

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using NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-390.116-custom.run with no problems and that's an *old* card.

He has posted about it a few times. He has a laptop with dual intel-nvidia video (ie, optimus), and it simply fails in 15.0, but works on 42.x.

I would give 15.1 a try, though, maybe it has been silently solved.

at least burn 15.1 (live) to a usb stick and boot to try w/o making local changes to his system. but ... -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Le 14/07/2019 à 13:10, Carlos E. R. a écrit :

He has posted about it a few times. He has a laptop with dual intel-nvidia video (ie, optimus), and it simply fails in 15.0, but works on 42.x.

like me (but never worked for me), make sure nouveau/intel is not enough, it is for me and it get better with time, so may be the 15.1 one is sufficient jdd -- http://dodin.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Am 14.07.19 um 18:45 schrieb Felix Miata:

Carlos E. R. composed on 2019-07-14 13:10 (UTC+0200):

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He has posted about it a few times. He has a laptop with dual intel-nvidia video (ie, optimus), and it simply fails in 15.0, but works on 42.x.

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I would give 15.1 a try, though, maybe it has been silently solved.

Or maybe not silently: https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1121246 Enable support for Optimus systems (Intel/NVIDIA GPU combo) on our products

Do I understand correctly that on 15.1 optimus/suse prime will work? That would be GREAT news! -- Daniel Bauer photographer Basel Málaga https://www.patreon.com/danielbauer https://www.daniel-bauer.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

gumb composed on 2019-06-10 09:43 (UTC+0200):

ShowFoto, the photo viewing/editing element of Digikam without all the database bloat would be a better place to start than the latter.

Apparently it includes some bloat, libKF5Contacts5, which libdigikamcore6 requires.

Ah, maybe this was the one I was thinking of, QuickViewer: https://www.linux-apps.com/p/1189382

Absent from standard repos. -- Evolution as taught in public schools is religion, not science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 06/10/2019 10:17 AM, Dave Howorth wrote:

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Any suggestions? xv or feh

And gphoto2 for camera access. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

* Felix Miata [06-10-19 20:48]:

David C. Rankin composed on 2019-06-10 19:31 (UTC-0500):

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Any suggestions?

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xv or feh

YaST says feh is aimed at console users, so not apparently suited to my intended OP meaning of "simple installation" (use by a simpleton, a point&clicker). XV sounds like its power is likely to overwhelm a point&clicker, but will give it a looksee.

feh is lightweight and work in console mode but is fine in graphical mode. and xv has been around for many years, is very lightweight and just works. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On Mon, 10 Jun 2019 22:17:18 -0400 Felix Miata wrote:

Patrick Shanahan composed on 2019-06-10 20:52 (UTC-0400):

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feh is lightweight and work in console mode but is fine in graphical mode.

Was it supposed to show up in the LXQt menu system? I don't see it.

That wasn't one of the stated requirements :) You can add it if you must or just invoke it from the command line.

I guess he's going to have to make do with LXImage. :p

Thanks everybody for your suggestions. :)

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David C. Rankin composed on 2019-06-11 02:18 (UTC-0500):

The reason I mention gphoto2 is that it is one of the application that handles phone image access/download (very capable too), feh is the swiss-army-knife of image viewers. Small, fast, capable. It is a graphical app, but generally launched from the command line. Traditional Linux interface. Rt-click on the image brings up the menus

Zypper doesn't find any gphoto2. Do you mean gphoto v2.5.x, which is in the 15.1 repos (and I installed)? Which doesn't find gphoto, but does find gphoto2, which the LXQt menu does not. The shell only presents a usage message from gphoto2. I don't use any GUI file manager, none even installed, so there's no place to right click an image except maybe in Konq (or Gwenview :p ). Doesn't Linux have anything like Windows' Irfanview that isn't a flatpak? -- Evolution as taught in public schools is religion, not science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Dave Howorth composed on 2019-06-11 10:18 (UTC+0100):

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I don't use any GUI file manager, none even installed, so there's no place to right click an image except maybe in Konq (or Gwenview :p ).

Are you being deliberately obtuse, or do you just need some sleep?

I always need sleep.

What does a file manager have to do with clicking on an image? Open an image, click on it and the menus come up, as David says.

Open an image how? I normally open the app I want to use first, then I use the app to open the file I want it to act upon, like in DOS in the 1980s when I learned to use a PC. Open WordPerfect first, then (re)open the document that needs more work. Open 1-2-3 first, then open the template I want to work from, or create new. Now I wish to open a picture viewer, then open a picture or picture directory to see thumbs from which to choose to open.

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Doesn't Linux have anything like Windows' Irfanview that isn't a flatpak?

Don't use windows, sorry, no idea what you're talking about.

Irfanview dates back to Windows 95. Xfview seems to be a Gnu clone, but it isn't in the repos, and its own web site only offers a flatpak. -- Evolution as taught in public schools is religion, not science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Patrick Shanahan composed on 2019-06-11 07:49 (UTC-0400):

Felix Miata composed:

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What does a file manager have to do with clicking on an image? Open an image, click on it and the menus come up, as David says.

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Open an image how? I normally open the app I want to use first, then I use the app to open the file I want it to act upon, like in DOS in the 1980s when I learned to use a PC. Open WordPerfect first, then (re)open the document that needs more work. Open 1-2-3 first, then open the template I want to work from, or create new. Now I wish to open a picture viewer, then open a picture or picture directory to see thumbs from which to choose to open.

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Doesn't Linux have anything like Windows' Irfanview that isn't a flatpak?

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Don't use windows, sorry, no idea what you're talking about.

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Irfanview dates back to Windows 95. Xfview seems to be a Gnu clone, but it isn't in the repos, and its own web site only offers a flatpak.

feh would be somewhat similar to irfanview capability wise but to open a particular image or directory of images you would feh <location><image> feh <location>/* feh /home/<user>/Pictures/1234.jpg

you referred to dos, it was not pointey-clickey. nor were the earlier computers, not even a mouse. use the force Luke!

In 1-2-3, where I spent most of my time, there wasn't much typing involved in getting an existing file opened: 1-open 1-2-3 if not already open 2-/ 3-f 4-o 5-F3 (optional) 6-select In WP, the keystrokes were different, but the process worked the same, app first, then choose file to work with. IOW, a file chooser is built into the app, much like how it still works in apps with a menu bar, e.g. Gimp, LO, SeaMonkey, Irfanview. Anyway, the thread topic is moot. Laptop is back to its owner, and I still use Gwenview and Gimp and Quattro Pro (in OS/2 SVGA text mode; with the 1-2-3 menu structure) and not LXQt. -- Evolution as taught in public schools is religion, not science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 06/11/2019 03:41 AM, Felix Miata wrote:

Zypper doesn't find any gphoto2. Do you mean gphoto v2.5.x, which is in the 15.1

Yes, that's' exactly what I mean. (I have gphoto2 stuck in my head, but it's just gphoto -- version 2.x)

repos (and I installed)? Which doesn't find gphoto, but does find gphoto2, which the LXQt menu does not. The shell only presents a usage message from gphoto2.

I don't use any GUI file manager, none even installed, so there's no place to right click an image except maybe in Konq (or Gwenview :p ).

Doesn't Linux have anything like Windows' Irfanview that isn't a flatpak?

kview is the closest to Irfanview, but that is another 'k...' app. Here is the top 17 image viewers for Linux (feh is right up there :) -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 12/06/2019 02.08, David C. Rankin wrote:

On 06/11/2019 03:41 AM, Felix Miata wrote:

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Zypper doesn't find any gphoto2. Do you mean gphoto v2.5.x, which is in the 15.1

Yes, that's' exactly what I mean. (I have gphoto2 stuck in my head, but it's just gphoto -- version 2.x)

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repos (and I installed)? Which doesn't find gphoto, but does find gphoto2, which the LXQt menu does not. The shell only presents a usage message from gphoto2.

I don't use any GUI file manager, none even installed, so there's no place to right click an image except maybe in Konq (or Gwenview :p ).

Doesn't Linux have anything like Windows' Irfanview that isn't a flatpak?

kview is the closest to Irfanview, but that is another 'k...' app.

Here is the top 17 image viewers for Linux (feh is right up there :)

Where is "here"? -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.0 x86_64 at Telcontar)

"David C. Rankin" writes:

I don't know why non-Gtk should even be an issue. Gtk apps require only the Gtk libraries (not a bunch of Gnome related dependencies). If you have Gimp installed, you already have everything you needed. If not, the entire Gtk+2 lib is a little over 6M installed, 9M for Gtk+3. Trivial size.

If the OP decides to use GTK then Geeqie is an option for image viewing. It is a fork of the old GQView. Charles -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org