Cliff Pankonien wrote:

yea, i noticed that too, the ol' rubber band solved it for me...

On Fri, 14 Jan 2000, Paul W. Abrahams wrote:

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I don't know how SuSE packaged the 6.3 distribution, but I suppose someone ought to speak up about the packaging of 6.2. It comes in a cardboard folder with slots for the 6 CDROMs that comprise the distribution. The trouble is that the CDROMs slip out of the slots very easily and tend to fall out if you slant the folder even a little bit backwards or sometimes sideways. I'm not necessarily objecting to any use of cardboard for the package; even this one might have worked if there were retainer flaps for each CDROM.

The rule for good packaging is simple: the CDROMs come out easily when you want them to and don't come out when you don't want them to.

Anyone else observe the same thing?

Paul Abrahams

Seems that I'm not alone. I'm glad I spoke up - perhaps someone at SuSE (hi, Lenz!!) is listening. Paul -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/

Jack Barnett wrote:

----- Original Message ----- From: Paul W. Abrahams

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I don't know how SuSE packaged the 6.3 distribution, but I suppose someone ought to speak up about the packaging of 6.2. It comes in a cardboard folder with slots for the 6 CDROMs that comprise the distribution.

Paul Abrahams

Hell yea. Ever see the SuSE Linux 5.3 distro packaging? That is some sweet little plastic CD-ROM case their my freind. Nothing better packaged then the 5.3, hands down, that is the good old days. 6.3 has the card board to, it also gets fibers on the back of the CD-ROMs. The issuse that is casing SuSE to move to cardboard I bet is that plastic for 6 CD-ROMs would be really BULKLY and would drive up the price of packaging to the customer. How are you going to make a 6 CD-ROM plastic case?

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Jack

I would be more than happy to pay a buck or two more for a more decent package! I would suggest little plastic folders. Paper-like in the back (soft, protecting the CD), transparent plastic on top with a flap to get the CD out (one per CD of course) with two holes on the left side so that you can put them in a book or something. I don't know the exact words for it, but if anyone has seen the Novell Support Connection CD sets, they'll know what I mean! That way, you can put all distro's together in one handy-to-carry booklet. Greetings, Rogier -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/

Hey, the card board package isn't that bad when I think about it. 1 it has part of the FAQ on the cover, because it has room. It can hold the 2 floppy disk that come with it. Plus, have you ever opened up the entire thing and then went and put it in front of someones face? Very impresses, 6 cd in this big only row all professinal looking compare to those other OS with their pathic 1 cd set... The thing is about 4-5 feet long when full opened up. Jack On Sat, 15 Jan 2000, Samy Elashmawy wrote:

IU lile the paper 6.3 one better , the 5.3 plastic holder , you had to realy press the cd in to lock them, and iff a few spokes broke off then the would not hold in.

Now with the paper 6.3 holder I can place the two floppys in the midle and put a ruber band aroun it to keep them all together , and they now all take a litle less space.

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I would be more than happy to pay a buck or two more for a more decent package! I would suggest little plastic folders. Paper-like in the back (soft, protecting the CD), transparent plastic on top with a flap to get the CD out (one per CD of course) with two holes on the left side so that you can put them in a book or something. I don't know the exact words for it, but if anyone has seen the Novell Support Connection CD sets, they'll know what I mean! That way, you can put all distro's together in one handy-to-carry booklet.

Greetings,

Rogier

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On Sun, 16 Jan 2000, S.Toms wrote: <-]Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 00:30:41 -0800 (PST) <-]From: "S.Toms" <-]To: SuSE Linux English <-]Subject: [SLE] Re: SuSE distribution packaging <-] <-]On Sat, 15 Jan 2000, Jack Barnett wrote: <-] <-]jb> <-]jb> Hey, the card board package isn't that bad when I think about it. 1 it has <-]jb> part of the FAQ on the cover, because it has room. It can hold the 2 floppy <-]jb> disk that come with it. Plus, have you ever opened up the entire thing and <-]jb> then went and put it in front of someones face? Very impresses, 6 cd in this <-]jb> big only row all professinal looking compare to those other OS with their <-]jb> pathic 1 cd set... The thing is about 4-5 feet long when full opened up. <-]jb> <-] <-] 4-5 feet huh?? I bet you have some great fish stories :) It's actually <-]just under 3 feet, but still pretty impressive. <-] Don't you remember that bunch of floppy disks when you first "tried" to install Win95 on your 486 many years ago? Speaking of it, I need a groundsheet for the main entrance of my house... :) ________________ Nicolas Beaulieu Economics Department, Universite Laval Centre de Recherches en Economie et Finances Appliquees (CREFA) Quebec, Canada 418-626-5033 _________________ http://www.penguinpowered.com/~montesquieu montesquieu@penguinpowered.com ICQ 15933500 ---> http://www.ccfa.org <--- ---> http://www.ccfc.ca <--- _________________ " La raison fait l'homme, mais c'est le sentiment qui le conduit. " Jean-Jacques Rousseau Discours sur l'origine et le fondement de l'inegalite parmi les hommes. _________________ -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/

jan vermeulen wrote:

It's just a matter of having the die curved where the centre hole is, with a diameter of approx 150% of the hole radius so the cdrom will not hitch on the back tab.

and that should have been: It's just a matter of having the die curved where the centre hole is, with a RADIUS of approx 150% of the hole radius so the cdrom will not hitch on the back tab. 8( Jan -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/

On Fri, 14 Jan 2000, it was written:

Jack Barnett wrote:

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----- Original Message ----- From: Paul W. Abrahams To: SuSE listserve Sent: Friday, January 14, 2000 2:38 PM Subject: [SLE] SuSE distribution packaging

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I don't know how SuSE packaged the 6.3 distribution, but I suppose someone ought to speak up about the packaging of 6.2. It comes in a cardboard folder with slots for the 6 CDROMs that comprise the distribution. The trouble is that the CDROMs slip out of the slots very easily and tend to fall out if you slant the folder even a little bit backwards or sometimes sideways. I'm not necessarily objecting to any use of cardboard for the package; even this one might have worked if there were retainer flaps for each CDROM.

The rule for good packaging is simple: the CDROMs come out easily when you want them to and don't come out when you don't want them to.

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Hell yea. Ever see the SuSE Linux 5.3 distro packaging? That is some sweet little plastic CD-ROM case their my freind. Nothing better packaged then the 5.3, hands down, that is the good old days. 6.3 has the card board to, it also gets fibers on the back of the CD-ROMs. The issuse that is casing SuSE to move to cardboard I bet is that plastic for 6 CD-ROMs would be really BULKLY and would drive up the price of packaging to the customer.

Cardboard might work if the slots were designed differently.

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How are you going to make a 6 CD-ROM plastic case?

The old Infomagic Slackware distributions (and maybe the current ones too, dunno) used 6-CD cases. I've also seen 6-CD cases for music that had clever foldouts and weren't all that thick.

Paul

If it must be cardboard to save $$ there are other ways. I use IRIX at work and the 6.5 upgrade came on 6 cds with 2 extra cds w/info on them and a nice small install guide. The cds were in plain slip covers and everything was together in a nice cardboard 2 peice box that slid apart holding the disks. Kinda like some of the floppy disk packaging you see with the 10 disk packages. It is also another place for colorful logos and marketing info. :-) -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Darren R. Weber drw@linuxfan.com ICQ# 2849193 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/

Dennis wrote:

Sorry but I do think the present packaging is ok.

If better packaging is used, the base cost is surely up, and the retail price here will multiply with that factor. This is not good in long term as priracy in Singapore and especially Malaysia is one of the biggest headache here. I could save half the amount if I buy the prirated copy of SuSE, whether it works or not I wouldn't know until I try it out, but I insist to get the original copy to support the hard work of SuSE when my hands are not so tight, I am still playing with 6.2 as I can afford to get 6.3 for the moment, it is selling averagely around US$70 now, too expensive for me.

I'm not saying that they should necessarily use plastic instead of cardboard. There are probably other packaging methods available that are at most a few cents more expensive, and maybe not more expensive at all, that work better. Good design doesn't always have to cost more. Paul -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/

Hi. At 22:56 on 14 Jan 00, Philip Stokes begun to yabber about "Re: [SLE] SuSE distribution packagi" Date sent: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 22:56:43 +0000 (GMT) From: Philip Stokes To: suse-linux-e@suse.com Subject: Re: [SLE] SuSE distribution packaging

Actually, the 5.3 CD case will hold 6 CD's. There's a fold out holder in the case lid front and back. I just put my 6.3 CD's in the 5.3 case, wrapped the 5.3 CD's in tissue paper and gave them to my son's school. Problem solved :

I use the cases from "The Linux Developers Resource" once they get a bit old.. The good thing is that the dev kit is released slightly more frequently than a SuSE distro is :) So i should always have cases.. In theory :) I would still like a return to the hard cd cases tho :) Cya Matthew Matthew King: Sys Admin, Quakers Hill High School. My ICQ#: 2342475 Message me! Cellular Phone: +61 415 257 516 E-Mail: noodle@penguinpowered.com Homepage: http://www.penguinpowered.com/~noodle/ -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.12 GIT d+ s: a--- C++++ UL++++ P+ L+++ E---- W++ N++ o++ K w O- M- V- PS+ PE Y+ PGP- t+ 5++++ X++ R+ tv++ b+++ DI+++++ D++ G+++ e* h* r++ y+ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/