Hi, no, I don't need it, I don't want it, it only disturbs me. And what is really not "nice" is that you can not even close the pk-update-icon unless you completely uninstall it. Karl Am 15.02.2013 01:23, schrieb Steven Hess:

On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 1:12 PM, Sven Burmeister wrote:

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Hey everybody!

Forget about apper or PackageKit or whatever, just the simple question, completely detached from the code that makes it work – or not:

Do you want a dedicated icon in the system try (panel) of your desktop that shows you whether updates are available?

If yes, what signals do you expect from it? E.g. colour, flashing etc.

For me I only need a notification updates are available. I can use Yast 2 Software Management to apply the updates myself.

Steven

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[15.02.2013 10:52] [C]:

On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 10:12 PM, Sven Burmeister wrote:

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Forget about apper or PackageKit or whatever, just the simple question, completely detached from the code that makes it work – or not:

Do you want a dedicated icon in the system try (panel) of your desktop that shows you whether updates are available?

If yes, what signals do you expect from it? E.g. colour, flashing etc.

I don't mind having it, but:

- I want to be able to switch it off if I don't want to see it

+1

- It MUST NOT block YaST Software Manager the way things are now

+1

What do I expect if there is an update icon:

- If it's switched on, I would only want it to show up in the systray similar to the way other notifications show up in KDE 4.10 (the icon simply becomes visible). Any blinking, flashing color changes or popups will only serve to annoy most of the user base.

+1

- If it's switched off, I expect it to stay switched off until I explicitly switch it back on again.

+1

- Color should match the desktop theme

I don't mind this part ;-) Since I use "zypper lu" at least twice a day, it won't be visible for long anyway ;-)

- If I click the updater, I would expect it to give a list of updates, and when I click Update, it would maybe launch YaST Software Manager? Having a separate interface for updating confuses the new users I work with.

+1

The biggest issue though... the fact that the current situation ends up with the updater blocking YaST. Fix that and we could even use the current layout/tools. That blocking thing is the single most annoying "feature" of the current situation, and why pretty much everyone I work with on openSUSE immediately goes on a search and destroy mission for the updater after installing.

+1 *sigh* C., you have exactly the same ponts that I'd give. The icon is not a bad thing, but the current realization (blocking zypper/YaST, using different interface) is annoying if you ever try to update (or keep your system up-to-date) by yourself instead by artcifical intelligence ;-) Just my 2¢ Werner -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Am 16.02.2013 04:15, schrieb Rajko:

On Thu, 14 Feb 2013 22:12:39 +0100 Sven Burmeister wrote:

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Hey everybody!

Forget about apper or PackageKit or whatever, just the simple question, completely detached from the code that makes it work – or not:

Do you want a dedicated icon in the system try (panel) of your desktop that shows you whether updates are available?

Yes.

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If yes, what signals do you expect from it? E.g. colour, flashing etc.

For me color change will suffice, but for general usability it should change a shape too.

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Sven

A few words more:

* it should be able to start update application that is set as default by clicking icon itself; * it must exit immediately when requested; * after exit no daemons are left running; cron is the only one needed.

* Must have in a context menu (right click) ** check updates now ** exit button (menu item) ** configuration button

Configuration should provide: * time when it wakes up to check for updates; * set default application;

I don't want any additional features that is already available in software management.

I second this. If there would be an update notification it should be realized like Raijko said. Freely configurable concerning the time intervals it is checking for updates. No hassle, no new application. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday, 2013-02-17 at 16:10 +0100, Karl Sinn wrote:

Please no pop up's, or at least a possibility to turn them off

A popup of the kind that displays a message near the panel, does not get focus automatically, and leaves the screen silently after 10 seconds or so, is used already by the desktops for important messages. I'm not talking of the popups that you have to make manually disappear, those are obnoxious. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. (from 12.1 x86_64 "Asparagus" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.18 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlEhcP0ACgkQtTMYHG2NR9WlTwCfdWn0cFMy76VD8/sYcRZ5YR0J +LAAniFQEVLNF8dhSAqzWJiOUfnrO87W =Aq/L -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org