Hello, list gurus: I've been hearing about SATA drives, lately. What are they, and can they plug into a regular drive controller, or do they need some special controller card, or what? They must have some advantage over whatever we should call normal drives, so what is it? --doug
On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 22:56:18 -0400, you wrote:
Hello, list gurus:
I've been hearing about SATA drives, lately. What are they, and can they plug into a regular drive controller, or do they need some special controller card, or what? They must have some advantage over whatever we should call normal drives, so what is it?
--doug
1) You need an SATA controller. The newer motherboards have them, or you can buy a PCI plug-in 2) Not all distros support them, or support them properly yet. I've heard rumors that SuSE 9.1 and above, with updates applied, work properly, but haven't tried. I know SuSE 9.1 with no updates didn't. 3) Advantages: Well, I've heard that it's pretty easy and fast to do a SATA raid-1, and I've seen a SATA 300 GB drive (biggest single ATA drive I've seen is 250), but you couldn't prove the former by me. I was permanantly cured of bleeding edge hardware some time back. I wouldn;t mind an answer to this one from someone who knows myself. Mike- -- If you can keep your head while those around you are losing theirs... You may have a great career as a network administrator ahead! -- Please note - Due to the intense volume of spam, we have installed site-wide spam filters at catherders.com. If email from you bounces, try non-HTML, non-encoded, non-attachments,
On Monday 25 October 2004 10:06 pm, Michael W Cocke wrote:
2) Not all distros support them, or support them properly yet. I've heard rumors that SuSE 9.1 and above, with updates applied, work properly, but haven't tried. I know SuSE 9.1 with no updates didn't.
I didn't have any issues installing 9.1 pro on my SATA drives (I'm using them in an LVM striping setup). SuSE and fedora core call my SATA drives hda and hdc unlike Gentoo and the 'recovery is possible' CD, which calls them sda and sdb. -- Stephen If your desktop gets out of control easily, you probably have too much stuff on it that doesn't need to be there. Donna Smallin, "Unclutter Your Home"
Tirsdag den 26. oktober 2004 15:20 skrev Stephen Boulet:
On Monday 25 October 2004 10:06 pm, Michael W Cocke wrote:
2) Not all distros support them, or support them properly yet. I've heard rumors that SuSE 9.1 and above, with updates applied, work properly, but haven't tried. I know SuSE 9.1 with no updates didn't.
I didn't have any issues installing 9.1 pro on my SATA drives (I'm using them in an LVM striping setup).
And your motherboard/chipset is ??
SuSE and fedora core call my SATA drives hda and hdc unlike Gentoo and the 'recovery is possible' CD, which calls them sda and sdb.
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Stephen
If your desktop gets out of control easily, you probably have too much stuff on it that doesn't need to be there. Donna Smallin, "Unclutter Your Home"
On Tuesday 26 October 2004 09:36 am, Johan Nielsen wrote:
I didn't have any issues installing 9.1 pro on my SATA drives (I'm using them in an LVM striping setup).
And your motherboard/chipset is ??
I'm using an Asus A7V880, which uses the kt880 chipset. -- Stephen If your desktop gets out of control easily, you probably have too much stuff on it that doesn't need to be there. Donna Smallin, "Unclutter Your Home"
On Monday 25 October 2004 20:56, Doug McGarrett wrote:
Hello, list gurus:
I've been hearing about SATA drives, lately. What are they, and can they plug into a regular drive controller, or do they need some special controller card, or what? They must have some advantage over whatever we should call normal drives, so what is it?
SATA - A specification for consumer hard drive connections that boosts the data transfer rate up to 150MB/second. In addition, it changes IDE/ATA from a parallel interface requiring 40 separate wires to connect components to a serial interface requiring only 6 wires. 2x and 4x versions of Serial ATA double and quadruple the speed of Serial ATA. Definition provided via Google! Use it, learn it. ;) Regards, Dana
On Monday October 25 2004 11:06 pm, Dana J. Laude wrote:
On Monday 25 October 2004 20:56, Doug McGarrett wrote:
Hello, list gurus:
I've been hearing about SATA drives, lately. What are they, and can they plug into a regular drive controller, or do they need some special controller card, or what? They must have some advantage over whatever we should call normal drives, so what is it?
SATA - A specification for consumer hard drive connections that boosts the data transfer rate up to 150MB/second. In addition, it changes IDE/ATA from a parallel interface requiring 40 separate wires to connect components to a serial interface requiring only 6 wires. 2x and 4x versions of Serial ATA double and quadruple the speed of Serial ATA.
The advantage to SATA is not just RAID, but even a single drive SATA box provides a MUCH cheaper FAST system without the much higher cost of SCSI, which IMHO is WAY over-priced. Fred -- "Running Windows on a Pentium is like getting a Porsche but only being able to drive it in reverse with the handbrake on."
Doug McGarrett wrote:
Hello, list gurus:
I've been hearing about SATA drives, lately. What are they, and can they plug into a regular drive controller, or do they need some special controller card, or what? They must have some advantage over whatever we should call normal drives, so what is it?
SATA is an acronym for Serial ATA, which is a new drive interface, that uses a small round cable, instead of a wide ribbon cable. Both the controller and drive have to support it, though adapters are available. In addition to the smaller cable, I believe it has speed and distance advantages over the ATA connected drives and may also be hot pluggable. However, as always, Google can often provide lots of info.
Doug McGarrett
I've been hearing about SATA drives, lately. What are they, and can they plug into a regular drive controller, or do they need some special controller card, or what?
They must have some advantage over whatever we should call normal drives, so what is it?
Many disk array manufacturers have accepted them as a replacement for SCSI. This *drastically* cuts down prices of multiterabyte solutions. Arrays with ATA disks were available in the past but big manufacturers viewed them as unreliable toys and recommended SCSI instead. SATA disks have changed this attitude and, in high performance computing, SATA disks are becoming the mainstream. -- A.M.
Alexandr Malusek wrote:
Doug McGarrett
writes: I've been hearing about SATA drives, lately. What are they, and can they plug into a regular drive controller, or do they need some special controller card, or what?
They must have some advantage over whatever we should call normal drives, so what is it?
Many disk array manufacturers have accepted them as a replacement for SCSI. This *drastically* cuts down prices of multiterabyte solutions.
/snip/ Thanx, all. It turns out that I could have run SATA drives on my mother-board, had I known! It has the controller built-in. --doug
On Monday 25 October 2004 10:56 pm, Doug McGarrett wrote:
Hello, list gurus:
I've been hearing about SATA drives, lately. What are they, and can they plug into a regular drive controller, or do they need some special controller card, or what? They must have some advantage over whatever we should call normal drives, so what is it?
--doug ========
Doug, I'm not trying to be rude and your question is a good one, but what does it have to do with Linux support? These type questions are better brought up on the suse-ot@suse.com list, don't you think? Not to pick on just you though, as many seem to be using this list now as an off topic list, rather than what it's intended purpose is. If you or others are not members of the suse-ot@suse.com list, by all means join it! It's not a high traffic list, so you won't be inundated with excess mail, but it will provide you a better place to discuss hardware, etc. Thanks for you help, Lee Good grief! I'm beginning to sound like that Shanahan guy always harping on using Google and taking the time do a bit of research on your own! ;o) Just kidding Patrick. :o)
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Not to pick on just you though, as many seem to be using this list now as an off topic list, rather than what it's intended purpose is.
That is because we are all awaiting our new toys... 9.2 it happens every time there is a new release out but it hasn't arrived in homes yet.. or businesses as it will here, when I will be playing w/ my test bed again... wheeeee!! Beleive me, once the boxes arrive on doorsteps the tone of most posts will change in a hurry, all us 'earlly adopters' will be saving you all some time and effort as trouble or ease of install reports will pour in ... -- j -- nemo me impune lacessit
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