[opensuse] uefi boot on asus 1225B with only openSUSE
Hello, some friend of me asked me to install ubuntu on his asus 1225b computer, wipping all trace of windows. So I inserted the unbuntu 13.04 disk, installed without problem... and couldn't boot it, error "no system found". This is uefi bios, gpt disk. So I inserted the openSUSE 13.1 dvd... and... same punishment!! I tried all what passed in my mind: verifying /boot/EFI partition was mounted (it was), trying to set a boot flag (not available in efi/gpt system), even trying to add manually efi system files ("Windows Boot Manager.efi" or "Shellx64.efi" as the bios seemed to ask for.. nope. Even tried ELILO without more success. I now try to install with standard MBR and grub2 (non efi), and hope to succeed. but I would really like to install with efi/gpt system, let only for the record :-)) any idea? thanks jdd (I wonder if an double boot system would have worked, any people testing thies on this pretty common computer?) -- http://www.dodin.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 03/08/2014 01:37 PM, jdd pecked at the keyboard and wrote:
Hello,
some friend of me asked me to install ubuntu on his asus 1225b computer, wipping all trace of windows.
So I inserted the unbuntu 13.04 disk, installed without problem... and couldn't boot it, error "no system found".
This is uefi bios, gpt disk.
So I inserted the openSUSE 13.1 dvd... and... same punishment!!
I tried all what passed in my mind: verifying /boot/EFI partition was mounted (it was), trying to set a boot flag (not available in efi/gpt system), even trying to add manually efi system files ("Windows Boot Manager.efi" or "Shellx64.efi" as the bios seemed to ask for.. nope. Even tried ELILO without more success.
I now try to install with standard MBR and grub2 (non efi), and hope to succeed.
but I would really like to install with efi/gpt system, let only for the record :-))
any idea?
thanks jdd (I wonder if an double boot system would have worked, any people testing thies on this pretty common computer?)
I turned off EFI as I only had one OS to install (openSUSE). If you don't intend to ever use MS again That may be the way to go. -- Ken Schneider SuSe since Version 5.2, June 1998 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Le 08/03/2014 20:14, Ken Schneider - openSUSE a écrit :
I turned off EFI as I only had one OS to install (openSUSE). If you don't intend to ever use MS again That may be the way to go.
yes, booting the dvd as non efi boot makes yast undersdand no nuefi is required and then boot works but I have very often (install parties) to make such installs and I try to learn how to make them as bug proof as I can. on this case, I had to get the computer at home to be able to install it (after three miss), I could only because the owner is somebody that trust me :-) but I never missed a dualboot install, so I wonder if it don't lack some windows element to make the bios happy, but I tried to copy the efi folder from an other similar computer, but with no luck thanks jdd -- http://www.dodin.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Idézet (Ken Schneider - openSUSE <suse-list3@bout-tyme.net>):
On 03/08/2014 01:37 PM, jdd pecked at the keyboard and wrote:
Hello,
some friend of me asked me to install ubuntu on his asus 1225b computer, wipping all trace of windows.
So I inserted the unbuntu 13.04 disk, installed without problem... and couldn't boot it, error "no system found".
This is uefi bios, gpt disk.
So I inserted the openSUSE 13.1 dvd... and... same punishment!!
I tried all what passed in my mind: verifying /boot/EFI partition was mounted (it was), trying to set a boot flag (not available in efi/gpt system), even trying to add manually efi system files ("Windows Boot Manager.efi" or "Shellx64.efi" as the bios seemed to ask for.. nope. Even tried ELILO without more success.
I now try to install with standard MBR and grub2 (non efi), and hope to succeed.
but I would really like to install with efi/gpt system, let only for the record :-))
any idea?
thanks jdd (I wonder if an double boot system would have worked, any people testing thies on this pretty common computer?)
I turned off EFI as I only had one OS to install (openSUSE). If you don't intend to ever use MS again That may be the way to go.
-- Ken Schneider SuSe since Version 5.2, June 1998 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Hi all, I have/had somewhat similar and also different experience on a Lenovo G505 (in a previous thread). I can install with both UEFI and Secure Boot set in BIOS only 64 bit openSUSE. No other 64 bit systems (tried Debian and descendants, Ubuntu, Mint) could be installed with UEFI. I disabled secure boot and chose Legacy first instead UEFI and then all 32 bit systems could be installed. Now I am on oS 64 bit, but there are problems, boot runs only when Advanced settings/recovery mode is chosen on the boot screeen. Probably there are no drivers yet for the machine: I have oS 13.1 64 bit(UEFI and secure boot on) with KDE 12.2 and XFCE, AMD A4 CPU, ATI 8670M video and also AMD sound. Kernel 3.11.10-7. Win 7 in virtualbox works perfectly, but could not install it nicely when I wanted a dualboot, because I had no drivers for Win7. They are available on the vendors site. Yesterday I tried to upgrade to kernel 3.13 but I only got "grub>" prompt. Was terrifying. Albert ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Le 08/03/2014 20:54, oszko@chem.u-szeged.hu a écrit :
Yesterday I tried to upgrade to kernel 3.13 but I only got "grub>" prompt. Was terrifying.
I learned to cope with this (learn to use the grub editor, very usefull), but I have just "no os found", worst :-( jdd -- http://www.dodin.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Le 08/03/2014 21:22, ellanios82 a écrit :
On 03/08/2014 09:58 PM, jdd wrote:
but I have just "no os found", worst :-(
- maybe /etc/fstab is directing to a different disk?
at that moment, we have only the bios :-( and I had no problem ever installing in dualboot (but not tried this computer like this) jdd -- http://www.dodin.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 09/03/14 06:54, oszko@chem.u-szeged.hu wrote:
Idézet (Ken Schneider - openSUSE <suse-list3@bout-tyme.net>):
On 03/08/2014 01:37 PM, jdd pecked at the keyboard and wrote:
Hello,
some friend of me asked me to install ubuntu on his asus 1225b computer, wipping all trace of windows.
So I inserted the unbuntu 13.04 disk, installed without problem... and couldn't boot it, error "no system found".
This is uefi bios, gpt disk.
So I inserted the openSUSE 13.1 dvd... and... same punishment!!
I tried all what passed in my mind: verifying /boot/EFI partition was mounted (it was), trying to set a boot flag (not available in efi/gpt system), even trying to add manually efi system files ("Windows Boot Manager.efi" or "Shellx64.efi" as the bios seemed to ask for.. nope. Even tried ELILO without more success.
I now try to install with standard MBR and grub2 (non efi), and hope to succeed.
but I would really like to install with efi/gpt system, let only for the record :-))
any idea?
thanks jdd (I wonder if an double boot system would have worked, any people testing thies on this pretty common computer?)
I turned off EFI as I only had one OS to install (openSUSE). If you don't intend to ever use MS again That may be the way to go.
-- Ken Schneider SuSe since Version 5.2, June 1998 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Hi all,
I have/had somewhat similar and also different experience on a Lenovo G505 (in a previous thread). I can install with both UEFI and Secure Boot set in BIOS only 64 bit openSUSE. No other 64 bit systems (tried Debian and descendants, Ubuntu, Mint) could be installed with UEFI. I disabled secure boot and chose Legacy first instead UEFI and then all 32 bit systems could be installed. Now I am on oS 64 bit, but there are problems, boot runs only when Advanced settings/recovery mode is chosen on the boot screeen. Probably there are no drivers yet for the machine:
I have oS 13.1 64 bit(UEFI and secure boot on) with KDE 12.2 and XFCE, AMD A4 CPU, ATI 8670M video and also AMD sound. Kernel 3.11.10-7. Win 7 in virtualbox works perfectly, but could not install it nicely when I wanted a dualboot, because I had no drivers for Win7. They are available on the vendors site. Yesterday I tried to upgrade to kernel 3.13 but I only got "grub>" prompt. Was terrifying.
Now this is EXACTLY what happened to me a couple of weeks ago on my Lenovo (which came with W8 pre-installed.) Some updates were done to 13.1 and on boot I just got 'grub>' and that's it! There was no way I found to recover - even though all partitions and files were on the HDD - so I wiped the whole disc and just re-installed 13.1 . (But now, the darn wi-fi doesn't work whereas before it was working perfectly after the first installation of 13.1.) BC -- A civilisation is judged by how it treats the most vulnerable. Lauren Smith - 30 January 2014 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Hello,
some friend of me asked me to install ubuntu on his asus 1225b computer, wipping all trace of windows.
So I inserted the unbuntu 13.04 disk, installed without problem... and couldn't boot it, error "no system found".
This is uefi bios, gpt disk.
So I inserted the openSUSE 13.1 dvd... and... same punishment!!
I tried all what passed in my mind: verifying /boot/EFI partition was mounted (it was), trying to set a boot flag (not available in efi/gpt system), even trying to add manually efi system files ("Windows Boot Manager.efi" or "Shellx64.efi" as the bios seemed to ask for.. nope. Even tried ELILO without more success.
I now try to install with standard MBR and grub2 (non efi), and hope to succeed.
but I would really like to install with efi/gpt system, let only for the record :-))
any idea?
thanks jdd (I wonder if an double boot system would have worked, any people testing thies on this pretty common computer?) Hi Not sure (this maybe a red herring), but when dual booting windows 7 via UEFI I always boot the rescue usb (13.1) and prep the gpt disk and
On Sat 08 Mar 2014 07:37:45 PM CST, jdd wrote: format the efi partition as fat16 and then when installing openSUSE tell it to use but not format. I also ensure that the mbr is zero'd out via gdisk; fdisk /dev/sda delete all partitions and w to write. gdisk /dev/sda w (write and quit) gdisk /dev/sda x z Y Y (to blank mbr) gdisk /dev/sda n <enter> Start sector <enter> If dual booting +260M <enter> If just windows +128M <enter> type ef00 n <enter> If windows present Start sector <enter> +128M Type 0c01 more partitions if required, type 0700 if it's windows write and quit Then format sda mkfs.vfat -F 16 /dev/sda1 Reboot and install.... I use this all the time but mostly HP systems with windows 7 and openSUSE or SLED. I actually got a newer HP ProBook 4440s today which has secure boot present, so will probably rebuild this system on it later on ;) -- Cheers Malcolm °¿° SUSE Knowledge Partner (Linux Counter #276890) openSUSE 13.1 (Bottle) (x86_64) GNOME 3.10.2 Kernel 3.11.10-7-desktop up 14 days 14:56, 5 users, load average: 0.17, 0.10, 0.08 CPU Intel® B840@1.9GHz | GPU Intel® Sandybridge Mobile -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
В Sat, 08 Mar 2014 19:37:45 +0100 jdd <jdd@dodin.org> пишет:
Hello,
some friend of me asked me to install ubuntu on his asus 1225b computer, wipping all trace of windows.
So I inserted the unbuntu 13.04 disk, installed without problem... and couldn't boot it, error "no system found".
Which likely means you are attempting legacy boot, not UEFI boot.
This is uefi bios, gpt disk.
Most (if not all) UEFI systems offer fallback to legacy booting using BIOS interface. In this case it would still load MBR (which exists on GPT) and if it has legacy boot code, this boot code would look for active partition which likely does not exist. For all I can tell this is the only reason for "no operating system found" message.
So I inserted the openSUSE 13.1 dvd... and... same punishment!!
Which again hints that you probably have fallen back to legacy boot with HDD - DVD boot order. As long as you did not have anything installed you got booting from DVD; as soon as HDD got valid MBR, system always tries to boot from it. Check your system settings, there is little that can be done on openSUSE side.
I tried all what passed in my mind: verifying /boot/EFI partition was mounted (it was), trying to set a boot flag (not available in efi/gpt system), even trying to add manually efi system files ("Windows Boot Manager.efi" or "Shellx64.efi" as the bios seemed to ask for.. nope. Even tried ELILO without more success.
I now try to install with standard MBR and grub2 (non efi), and hope to succeed.
but I would really like to install with efi/gpt system, let only for the record :-))
any idea?
thanks jdd (I wonder if an double boot system would have worked, any people testing thies on this pretty common computer?)
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Le 09/03/2014 05:44, Andrey Borzenkov a écrit :
Which likely means you are attempting legacy boot, not UEFI boot.
fact is the efi part do not want to boot, so may be it's a legacy error, but this do not say why efi do not boot. notice that the dvd boots perfectly through efi. In fact the bios asks for boot the dvd with two options: efi and legacy. But no such demand for the HDD there is an option in the exit bios menu (?), to try booting from an efi system file, but the computer never find it, no matter what I put in /efi partition I will look to see if there is a bios update jdd -- http://www.dodin.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
В Sun, 09 Mar 2014 08:23:30 +0100 jdd <jdd@dodin.org> пишет:
Le 09/03/2014 05:44, Andrey Borzenkov a écrit :
Which likely means you are attempting legacy boot, not UEFI boot.
fact is the efi part do not want to boot, so may be it's a legacy error, but this do not say why efi do not boot.
notice that the dvd boots perfectly through efi. In fact the bios asks for boot the dvd with two options: efi and legacy. But no such demand for the HDD
Because normally UEFI systems do not "boot from HDD". They load and launch EFI executable that may be located on HDD (but may be not). It sounds like either efibootmgr fails to update boot options or your system simply ignores everything that it does not like. There were known cases of the latter. Boot from EFI DVD in rescue mode and show output of "efibootmgr -v".
there is an option in the exit bios menu (?), to try booting from an efi system file, but the computer never find it, no matter what I put in /efi partition
You have to specify full path to a file including device. Unless your firmware allows you to select file via menu, it could be tricky. Do you have option to start EFI Shell? Otherwise if your system allows booting from USB stick, you may download EFI Shell and place it on a stick. This would allow manually starting programs without need to know how devices are named.
I will look to see if there is a bios update
jdd
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Le 09/03/2014 09:31, Andrey Borzenkov a écrit :
It sounds like either efibootmgr fails to update boot options or your system simply ignores everything that it does not like.
it's most certainly the case. I've seen on the net than some computers looks for the windows efi file, even if it do not use it, so dualboot works, but I couldn't figure out what this particular computer wants There were
known cases of the latter.
Boot from EFI DVD in rescue mode and show output of "efibootmgr -v".
I will try this
there is an option in the exit bios menu (?), to try booting from an efi system file, but the computer never find it, no matter what I put in /efi partition
You have to specify full path to a file including device.
I can't specify anythng. There is only the option "boot efi file" and it do not find any
I will look to see if there is a bios update
there was, and I apply it, but with no change but in normal (non efi) mode, opensuse or ubuntu installs very well, so I may give up (I also have to give the computer to his owner) thanks jdd -- http://www.dodin.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Le 09/03/2014 09:31, Andrey Borzenkov a écrit :
Boot from EFI DVD in rescue mode and show output of "efibootmgr -v".
well, no luck, after installing an ubuntu (as asked by the owner), there is no more efi folder on the disk I give up... jdd -- http://www.dodin.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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