[opensuse] powerful graphical ftp software?
Dear all I am used to lftp, a very powerful commandline ftp software. I wish to introduce my colleague a ftp software that can help her maintain the website she's working on. She recently finished the move from Windows to OpenSuSE and feel happy about gftp. yet gftp is not powerful enough for her, what she want is an ftp software that can upload a folder of 200 files and: I. if local file is newer than remote file (mdate), the file is changed locally and the file on the server should be overwritten; II. if local file is older than file on server or they have the same date, that file probably should be skipped. Having graphical user interface is important because if I start by suggesting commandline I have too much to explain to her, including concepts like current-working-directory, single dot and double dot. She is the kind of person think graphically, she knows it when she see it (e.g. she know it's a folder because it's a folder on screen) I do tried to introduce her commandline and failed more than once. gftp isn't good enough because as the version come with SuSE 10.2 it doesn't know to compare local file and remote file. I tried to compile a developing version which do implemented some logic on comparing which file should be uploaded, and it also have prolems: I. if local file is newer and longer than remote file, the ftp client suggest resume upload, which is almost 100% incorrect thing to do for her; II. some file changed locally is simply missing in list of files to upload; III. it should highlight the file that it wishes to upload from a list of 200 files; IV. when she finally examed the long list of 200 files, change "resume" to "overwrite" etc, and click yes, the control connection already timed out; I also tried j-ftp, which simply don't know to do the compare logic (e.g. it runs mkdir when the directory on ftp server already exist, causing error). Also it's very useful for her that the ftp software can do character-set conversion on-the-fly, which is a good feature existing in gftp. Can you suggest something I can try? Or at least let me know a good solution is simply missing. Thanks a lot in advance! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Zhang Weiwu wrote:
Dear all
I am used to lftp, a very powerful commandline ftp software. I wish to introduce my colleague a ftp software that can help her maintain the website she's working on. She recently finished the move from Windows to OpenSuSE and feel happy about gftp.
yet gftp is not powerful enough for her, what she want is an ftp software that can upload a folder of 200 files and: I. if local file is newer than remote file (mdate), the file is changed locally and the file on the server should be overwritten; II. if local file is older than file on server or they have the same date, that file probably should be skipped.
Having graphical user interface is important because if I start by suggesting commandline I have too much to explain to her, including concepts like current-working-directory, single dot and double dot. She is the kind of person think graphically, she knows it when she see it (e.g. she know it's a folder because it's a folder on screen) I do tried to introduce her commandline and failed more than once.
gftp isn't good enough because as the version come with SuSE 10.2 it doesn't know to compare local file and remote file. I tried to compile a developing version which do implemented some logic on comparing which file should be uploaded, and it also have prolems: I. if local file is newer and longer than remote file, the ftp client suggest resume upload, which is almost 100% incorrect thing to do for her; II. some file changed locally is simply missing in list of files to upload; III. it should highlight the file that it wishes to upload from a list of 200 files; IV. when she finally examed the long list of 200 files, change "resume" to "overwrite" etc, and click yes, the control connection already timed out;
I also tried j-ftp, which simply don't know to do the compare logic (e.g. it runs mkdir when the directory on ftp server already exist, causing error).
Also it's very useful for her that the ftp software can do character-set conversion on-the-fly, which is a good feature existing in gftp.
Can you suggest something I can try? Or at least let me know a good solution is simply missing.
Thanks a lot in advance!
Try checking out KFTPGrabber -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
在 2007-07-02一的 09:14 -0600,Pueblo Native写道:
Try checking out KFTPGrabber
It ask me if I overwrite a file, and I say "skip", then again, then again, so I click "autoskip", then it worked 40 minutes, poping up message for each of the file it skipped (while in gftp the list of file to skip or overwrite is displayed after 1 minute of directory recursive listing). After it finished uploading, I discovered "autoskip" have everything was skipped, including the files that have newer version on local and older & shorter version on the server. It seems KFTPGrabber's "autoskip" feature means: if a file exist on both sides, skip it. That's certainly not what user intented to do. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
在 2007-07-02一的 23:05 +0800,Zhang Weiwu写道:
yet gftp is not powerful enough for her, what she want is an ftp software that can upload a folder of 200 files and:
* IgLooFTP: I read messages on the Internet forums in Chinese and in English, discussing the ease of use and strength of IglooFTP, ftp software based on gtk. Their website seems down to me, or is it just me? http://www.usinglinux.org/ftp/IglooFTP.html * ftpcube: It looks cute but it tries to upload all the 200 files without comparing, which means it probably won't finish in this week, which I canceled in the middel and have to re-upload the files that was uploading when I canceled it. * xrmftp: I am not sure why there had been so many graphical ftp software that looks having charming future but given up for this or that. anyway I cannot access website of this ftp software anymore other half dozen of Linux graphical ftp software: I didn't check all of them. I think what user need is one or two very good graphical user interface ftp software, not a dozen of graphical ftp software all of them with only basic feature implemented, how wonderful if these developer had worked together or one after another on one single project to let us enjoy a very good and feature complete product 4 or 5 years ago:) Just an example, some basic feature like character-set convertion (yes if you live outside of US and Europ you will think it's a basic feature) are missing in most graphical ftp software. I think users need number of choice - 50% and feature/quality of each choice + 50%.
I. if local file is newer than remote file (mdate), the file is changed locally and the file on the server should be overwritten; II. if local file is older than file on server or they have the same date, that file probably should be skipped.
Having graphical user interface is important because if I start by suggesting commandline I have too much to explain to her, including concepts like current-working-directory, single dot and double dot. She is the kind of person think graphically, she knows it when she see it (e.g. she know it's a folder because it's a folder on screen) I do tried to introduce her commandline and failed more than once.
gftp isn't good enough because as the version come with SuSE 10.2 it doesn't know to compare local file and remote file. I tried to compile a developing version which do implemented some logic on comparing which file should be uploaded, and it also have prolems: I. if local file is newer and longer than remote file, the ftp client suggest resume upload, which is almost 100% incorrect thing to do for her; II. some file changed locally is simply missing in list of files to upload; III. it should highlight the file that it wishes to upload from a list of 200 files; IV. when she finally examed the long list of 200 files, change "resume" to "overwrite" etc, and click yes, the control connection already timed out;
I also tried j-ftp, which simply don't know to do the compare logic (e.g. it runs mkdir when the directory on ftp server already exist, causing error).
Also it's very useful for her that the ftp software can do character-set conversion on-the-fly, which is a good feature existing in gftp.
Can you suggest something I can try? Or at least let me know a good solution is simply missing.
Thanks a lot in advance!
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在 2007-07-02一的 10:33 -0700,Sloan写道:
Zhang Weiwu wrote:
Dear all
Can you suggest something I can try? Or at least let me know a good solution is simply missing.
Have you tried filezilla?
thank you very much for providing suggestion and providing screenshot! Filezilla failed in my cast that, when i specify "overwrite if newer", it overwrite files with the same time stamp, which, gftp (non-released 2.0.19 version) correctly identified these files should be skipped. Maybe it has something related with the Windows ftp server? After researched on this topic for so long gftp beta version is still the best of all, though it also make mistakes, but less important mistakes than others. Non of tested solution can solve the problem without mistake. So we decide to use a stupid method: take pencil and paper write down files being touched, and manually select them for upload. We now have the good-old pencil & paper solution and unlike geeky friends like me, she understand technology have limitations and accepts it. The interesting thing is I don't think technology have limitations (yes, I would use rsync if I manage that web server!), what I think is human have limitations, that some human is not getting used to commandline, probably never:) And if I am really geeky I'd go fix either filezilla or gftp. So yet people on this lists who can fix the software they are using are really geeky:) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
2007/7/2, Zhang Weiwu <zhangweiwu@realss.com>:
在 2007-07-02一的 10:33 -0700,Sloan写道:
Zhang Weiwu wrote:
Dear all
Can you suggest something I can try? Or at least let me know a good solution is simply missing.
Have you tried filezilla?
thank you very much for providing suggestion and providing screenshot!
Filezilla failed in my cast that, when i specify "overwrite if newer", it overwrite files with the same time stamp, which, gftp (non-released 2.0.19 version) correctly identified these files should be skipped. Maybe it has something related with the Windows ftp server?
After researched on this topic for so long gftp beta version is still the best of all, though it also make mistakes, but less important mistakes than others. Non of tested solution can solve the problem without mistake. So we decide to use a stupid method: take pencil and paper write down files being touched, and manually select them for upload. We now have the good-old pencil & paper solution and unlike geeky friends like me, she understand technology have limitations and accepts it. The interesting thing is I don't think technology have limitations (yes, I would use rsync if I manage that web server!), what I think is human have limitations, that some human is not getting used to commandline, probably never:)
And if I am really geeky I'd go fix either filezilla or gftp. So yet people on this lists who can fix the software they are using are really geeky:)
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I really miss FTPRush while working on linux.... Have you tried FireFTP (https://addons.mozilla.org/es-ES/firefox/addon/684)?. There's also CrossFTP (CrossFTP), but i didn't try it...
On Monday 02 July 2007 23:10:30 Zhang Weiwu wrote:
在 2007-07-02一的 10:33 -0700,Sloan写道:
Zhang Weiwu wrote:
Dear all
Can you suggest something I can try? Or at least let me know a good solution is simply missing.
Zhang,
Go look at Igloo Ftp Pro. It is not free but is reasonable. ($30 US ? with unlimited upgrades) It will do everything that you need to do. I have used it for several years to establish and update my web sites. Very graphical, very easy, very intuitive. Bob S. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Zhang Weiwu wrote: <...snip...>
I also tried j-ftp, which simply don't know to do the compare logic (e.g. it runs mkdir when the directory on ftp server already exist, causing error).
Also it's very useful for her that the ftp software can do character-set conversion on-the-fly, which is a good feature existing in gftp.
Can you suggest something I can try? Or at least let me know a good solution is simply missing.
Not sure if it has all the features, but I've been very happy with Krusader as my general, all purpose file manager. It also includes plenty of interesting FTP options. -- Jonathan Arnold (mailto:jdarnold@buddydog.org) Daemon Dancing in the Dark, an Open OS weblog: http://freebsd.amazingdev.com/blog/ UNIX is user-friendly. It's just a bit picky about who its friends are. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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Bob S
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Ciro Iriarte
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Jonathan Arnold
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Pueblo Native
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Sloan
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Zhang Weiwu