RE: 8.2 KDE 3.1.2: yast2 will no longer exit (have to kill)
Hi,
I'm new to the list but not new to Linux or SuSE (started in 95).
My first comment is to SuSE to reconsider their release practice. In September 2002 I bought 8.0 (and thought it was great), in January 2003 I bought 8.1 (and thought it was even better), in May 20003 I bought 8.2 (IMHO, best thing since sliced bread!). However, in less than 1 year I have spent more on SuSE than I have spent on Windows (I bought W2K in 2001 - and it is still running on one of my machines!) and been through 3 major upgrades (followed by reinstalls, etc.). This situation is annoying me. I understand that SuSE needs to make money by selling, but this policy will quickly make people like me move to another distro. I like SuSE (very much), but I cannot afford to fork out 90 every 4-5 months + the backup/reinstall (which takes several days before one gets everything to they way it was before). IMHO, SuSE should offer free upgrades through the Internet for their current installed base (and I don't mean the FTP install). BTW, I have tried the upgrade path by searching for updated RPM's (from packman and others) but something always broke with these, hence I seem to be forced to get new versions entirely.
Two. I have 8.2 installed and downloaded the KDE upgrade RPM for 3.1.2 from SuSE's website. After I upgraded, yast2 will no longer exit gracefully unless I install something. It pops the 'Cancel all Changes' dialog and will never exit regardless if you press Ok or Cancel. Am I the only one? Also the nice colour user icons from the login screen dissapeared, being replaced with the traditional black face.
Cheers! Chris PS: I'm not bit**ng, honestly. I really like SuSE but there are things I would like to see things done slightly different.
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* Chris Carter (cristobal@ebunda.com) [030622 01:13]:
My first comment is to SuSE to reconsider their release practice.
I'd just reconsider your buying habits. I usually upgrade every other release. Not because I can't afford it but because it's a major PITA. If your not changing hardware every 6-8 months and need new drivers and what not then I wouldn't bother doing every release if you can't afford it. If you want to upgrade things such as KDE then they do release packages to do this. I was running KDE 3.1.1 on 8.0 before I upgraded to 8.2. I actually needed to upgrade to 8.2 because the drivers for my motherboards IDE controllers were not found in 8.0's kernel and I have absolutely no time to be compiling kernels and what not. So why not do an every other release purchase and upgrade. It's most likely more within your budget.
Two. I have 8.2 installed and downloaded the KDE upgrade RPM for 3.1.2 from SuSE's website. After I upgraded, yast2 will no longer exit gracefully unless I install something. It pops the 'Cancel all Changes' dialog and will never exit regardless if you press Ok or Cancel. Am I the only one? Also the nice colour user icons from the login screen dissapeared, being replaced with the traditional black face.
If you download the QT3 packages from /pub/people/mfabian/ then you will be able to exit YaST2 when the software module is invoked. This is a known problem and has been discussed to a great extent for the last month or so on this like. The RPM's in mfabian's directory fix this issue. -- Ben Rosenberg ---===---===---===--- mailto:ben@whack.org ----------------------------------------------------------- The IQ and the life expectancy of the average American recently passed each other going in the opposite direction.
On Sunday 22 June 2003 10:02, Chris Carter wrote:
Hi,
I'm new to the list but not new to Linux or SuSE (started in 95).
My first comment is to SuSE to reconsider their release practice. In September 2002 I bought 8.0 (and thought it was great), in January 2003 I bought 8.1 (and thought it was even better), in May 20003 I bought 8.2 (IMHO, best thing since sliced bread!). However, in less than 1 year I have spent more on SuSE than I have spent on Windows (I bought W2K in 2001 - and it is still running on one of my machines!) and been through 3 major upgrades (followed by reinstalls, etc.). This situation is annoying me. I understand that SuSE needs to make money by selling, but this policy will quickly make people like me move to another distro. I like SuSE (very much), but I cannot afford to fork out 90 every 4-5 months + the backup/reinstall (which takes several days before one gets everything to they way it was before). IMHO, SuSE should offer free upgrades through the Internet for their current installed base (and I don't mean the FTP install). BTW, I have tried the upgrade path by searching for updated RPM's (from packman and others) but something always broke with these, hence I seem to be forced to get new versions entirely.
Hi and some very good points. For a single user then yes. If you can't do the ftp installation it's going to cost you. But for us there is no alternative. We are a small international school on a tight budget. Running an 18 node lan under anything but Linux would be financially out of the question. Steve.
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