Hmmm... qmail busted? Naaa, I hardly think qmail is at fault at all. What is this strange "Sender:" field that we speak of? Is it an MUA problem? It sounds like it may be. This message is getting to you from M$ OE (unfortunately) via a qmail SMTP box. Is there a "Sender:" field in the headers? Hmm I don't think so. You may want to direct your gripes to qmail.org, or perhaps the qmail mailing list. Send a blank email to qmail-help@list.cr.yp.to for info. Cheerz, kw /* Keith Warno ** Developer & Sys Admin ** http://www.HaggleWare.com/ */ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Monte Milanuk" To: "Bill Moseley" ; Sent: 30 May 2000, Tuesday 15:27 Subject: Re: [SLE] qmail busted? I don't think it is just a qmail problem. I have been having issues w/ people griping (justifiably) at me because of this 'Sender' field. But I am not using qmail, or sendmail, or anything (yet) I have been using Netscape Messenger, and that's it. No MTA involved. but I get these darned Sender fields injected in my messages using my local user name. And for those who want to tell me to edit 'Preferences', 'Mail', 'Identity', I have. Nowhere in there does it contain 'monte'. It has my email address. Period. So the problem is coming in somewhere else (in Netscape, or whatever). Sorry if I seem a little touchy on this, but I got several off-list emails from people who didn't read my earlier posts, then pointed out what I already had done, and (this is what burns me) did it using a bogus email address. Grrr... I am setting up my email & news system this week and going back to mutt and slrn! At least there I have more control over my headers! This email _shouldn't_ have a weird sender field, as I am sending it from Yahoo!'s web mailer. As an aside, is there a good way (using procmail, or whatever) to recycle my old emails from ~/nsmail/ into my new mailbox for mutt? Also, I believe I am not getting all the posts to this group. I see messages in GeoCrawler archives that I haven't seen in the mail I received, and I get followups to posts that I never saw either. WTF? Thank you for your time Monte --- Bill Moseley wrote:

I, like many, use fetchmail to deliver to my local MTA which is sendmail.

It seems as if fetchmail will use the Sender: header as the sender envelope to deliver messages if available. Unfortunately, it seems like qmail is creating this Sender: header from the local machine which may not be a resolvable name as far as DNS is concerned. I have sendmail setup in the default way which rejects unresolvable sender envelopes.

This Sender: header causes the message to bounce, but since the sender is not resolvable, the bounce fails and it gets delivered to postmaster locally, missing the body of the message.

I'm seeing a lot of these bounces from various lists, but mostly from this list. And as far as I can remember, all were sent via qmail. So I'm assuming this Sender: header is set by qmail.

Does anyone know if there is a setting in qmail that controls what the Sender: header is?

Thanks,

Bill Moseley mailto:moseley@hank.org

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