[opensuse] Why are Novell guys closing perfectly valid bugs as WONTFIX due to their laziness ?
hi all ! Why are Novell guys closing perfectly valid bugs as WONTFIX ? They should stop being lazy all the day. That is not a feature-request but a bug. The lazy number one is: marcio ferreira and Stefan Hundhammer link: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=264716 What's worse is that they tell me something like: "If you do that again I will formally ask a certain account of bugzilla to be canceled." How am I supposed it eat that as a community-member ? -- -Alexey Eremenko "Technologov" -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Alexey Eremenko wrote:
hi all !
Why are Novell guys closing perfectly valid bugs as WONTFIX ? They should stop being lazy all the day. That is not a feature-request but a bug. The lazy number one is: marcio ferreira and Stefan Hundhammer
link: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=264716
What's worse is that they tell me something like: "If you do that again I will formally ask a certain account of bugzilla to be canceled."
How am I supposed it eat that as a community-member ?
Hi, Alexey, keep cool, man. cite from the bugreport: "I don't consider this to be a serious issue though, especially in the long term when we want to unify the icon style. Stefan, feel free to close again as WONTFIX" So while "wontfix" is not nice and: I personally experienced "REAL" situations were serious customer issues were rewarded with "WONTFIX" (including the inescapable consequences). Now, looking at it, would you consider your "icon bug" to be serious, especially in regard to the bugreport, talking about the long term goal to unify the icon theme? How many customers will you/Novell/SuSE loose because of this "icon bug" Again, I am not saying that it is not a bug, but is THIS really a main Problem that will endanger (Novell-)Linux/your... success if it is not fixed, now? For my part I ma happy that the Novell guys apparently do not find the time to fix a bug like this. ;-)) regards Eberhard kind regards Eberhard -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sat, May 12, 2007 at 10:14:25AM +0100, Alexey Eremenko wrote:
hi all !
Why are Novell guys closing perfectly valid bugs as WONTFIX ? They should stop being lazy all the day. That is not a feature-request but a bug. The lazy number one is: marcio ferreira and Stefan Hundhammer
link: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=264716
What's worse is that they tell me something like: "If you do that again I will formally ask a certain account of bugzilla to be canceled."
How am I supposed it eat that as a community-member ?
Because you reopened a minor issue that will go away anyway at some point in time anyway. Stefan has quite a huge number of incoming bugs and loses his cool on such minor requests occasionaly. Ciao, Marcus -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Saturday 12 May 2007 11:32:42 Marcus Meissner wrote:
What's worse is that they tell me something like: "If you do that again I will formally ask a certain account of bugzilla to be How am I supposed it eat that as a community-member ? Stefan has quite a huge number of incoming bugs and loses his cool on such minor requests occasionaly.
And to Stefan's defense, above quote originates from a community member. Bye, Steve -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
This is not different from the previous bugzilla abuses where one-closes-bug-other-reopens-countless-times that happened a lot and usually ends with the bug being set private... Its an abuse what you did, and I mean exaclty what Ive wrote, that if you kept re-opening and making people waste time with that Id send an email to whoever is in charge of bugzilla to cancel your account. If they will cancel, I dont know, but sure as hell I will ask to. And Im not a novell employer obviously. If I were Id be to be polite when you were doing the prickness arrogant and clueless actions you like to do, and distribute orders to people as you knew better about every single topic, alexey. Im very happy Im not so I can talk straight and clear the problem you cause, although you like to ignore, in a way that has more chances to be understood than a novell guy message, that will always (almost always?) friendly and not getting straight to the point. And by the way, what Ive told here and in bugzila you can bet is something lots of people wanted to say, but they cant, for example, because they are novell people get a clue, you abuse people's time... Marcio --- druid On 5/12/07, Stephan Binner <stbinner@suse.de> wrote:
On Saturday 12 May 2007 11:32:42 Marcus Meissner wrote:
What's worse is that they tell me something like: "If you do that again I will formally ask a certain account of bugzilla to be How am I supposed it eat that as a community-member ? Stefan has quite a huge number of incoming bugs and loses his cool on such minor requests occasionaly.
And to Stefan's defense, above quote originates from a community member.
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Op Saturday 12 May 2007 11:14:25 schreef Alexey Eremenko:
What's worse is that they tell me something like: "If you do that again I will formally ask a certain account of bugzilla to be canceled."
How am I supposed it eat that as a community-member ?
Provide updated/improved icons, so it is easy to patch. -- Richard Bos Without a home the journey is endless -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 5/12/07, Richard Bos <ml@radoeka.nl> wrote:
Provide updated/improved icons, so it is easy to patch. Did you read the bug report ? Look at the gray-background. The updated icons exist, but are not rendered correctly somehow... (In Yast)
-- -Alexey Eremenko "Technologov" -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Saturday 12 May 2007 10:46, Alexey Eremenko wrote:
On 5/12/07, Richard Bos <ml@radoeka.nl> wrote:
Provide updated/improved icons, so it is easy to patch.
Did you read the bug report ? Look at the gray-background. The updated icons exist, but are not rendered correctly somehow... (In Yast)
-- -Alexey Eremenko "Technologov"
Yeah, Why do you have OpenSuse? Is it to look at icons all day? - in which case it is badly broken. But if anyone has work to do, these icons don't stop them. If it was to be fixed, it only justifies the lowest priority, and as the icons are to be updated or reviewed, I would agree with wontfix. Having said that, I think Mr Ferriera needs to accept that there are diverse views of the acceptable quality level and save the threats for genuinely disruptive input. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Alexey Eremenko wrote:
On 5/12/07, Richard Bos <ml@radoeka.nl> wrote:
Provide updated/improved icons, so it is easy to patch. Did you read the bug report ? Look at the gray-background. The updated icons exist, but are not rendered correctly somehow... (In Yast)
Like somebody commented, it could be a QT bug. Maybe this one? http://www.trolltech.com/developer/task-tracker/index_html?method=entry&id=111391 Sorin -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Saturday 12 May 2007, Alexey Eremenko wrote:
hi all !
Why are Novell guys closing perfectly valid bugs as WONTFIX ? They should stop being lazy all the day. That is not a feature-request but a bug. The lazy number one is: marcio ferreira and Stefan Hundhammer
What a sheltered life you must live if this is the biggest thing you can find to complain about! Fire up Gimp, fix it your self, and submit the fix with the bug report. My god man, get a grip! -- _____________________________________ John Andersen -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Saturday 2007-05-12 05:14, Alexey Eremenko wrote:
Why are Novell guys closing perfectly valid bugs as WONTFIX ? They should stop being lazy all the day. That is not a feature-request but a bug.
"lazy" is unfair and exaggerated. Every version of Suse since I started with 8.0 has had substantial and obvious modifications and improvement. I don't believe anyone working on the distro has been "lazy."
I read the link. This bug is a very MINOR issue with the way an icon is hilighted when selected. I had to look twice to see the problem. It's not as if the icon shows up as an unsightly blob of random pixels. The fate of the Suse distro is not likely to depend on this icon issue. Also, perhaps you don't understand this quote from the bugzilla discussion, "I don't consider this to be a serious issue though, especially in the long term when we want to unify the icon style." I take this to mean there is a long term plan to revise all the icons. So, you can see why they don't consider it important to fix an icon that will be replaced in any case. (I think a far more important bug is that the words "Suse", "distro", and "bugzilla" are not present in the ISpell dictionary by default. ;-)
What's worse is that they tell me something like: "If you do that again I will formally ask a certain account of bugzilla to be canceled."
How am I supposed it eat that as a community-member ?
Be a part of the community and learn how to fix the icon yourself and submit it to the svn repository? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Private message sent to a bug author - mine was a dupe. It was been partially edited for understandable reasons Scott OMG its morning 08:08 GMT+10 Quote With respect to the above bug, I also raised the same issue after I installed 10.2 when it was first installed by me and my bug was duped as created on 2007-01-02 however yours was created on 2006-11-16. I feel there are a few things about the whole in personnel who are involved in development. Looking at how hard you have had to battle, as I often need to, just to get an acknowledgement that there is a bug. Is an issue by itself. The possibility that almost all needinfo comments are commonly buck passing or offensive attitude back to the author often prevails; I have almost given up. I don't know if its a conflict cultural exchange, but its always an uphill battle. If you look at a recent survey of the huge number of users 86% aprox. with development/application testing/fault rectification type experience it is easy to see when asked that only 6.8% were willing to raise a bug report. With respect to this current bug labelling it as a enhancement "current classification" is insulting. The expected standard of the work from mostly paid workers at suse.de is from a development point of view, unacceptable. Years ago if I speced a new Functional Change or Trouble report and finished testing it and put it online and it fell over or was not 98% sound, I would have to justify my job if it happened too much. Those were different times, I was dealing with an enormous Mainframe with Global fingers attached and you were expected to perform. Sorry to have a twinge in your year directly, but for what its worth, just getting this very small, but significant bug fixed has been a huge effort on your behalf, lest a battle and I thank you for making the software just a little better. I have lost so much faith in suse.de I could open aprox 10 "serious" bug reports right now, but to tell you the truth - I don't want to have to battle and deal with attitude. No one ever says thanks to us bug finders but in this particular bug Thanks for you (correct) belief and you got 1 out of over 1000 bugs open still in 10.2. Unquote Alexey Eremenko wrote:
hi all !
Why are Novell guys closing perfectly valid bugs as WONTFIX ? They should stop being lazy all the day. That is not a feature-request but a bug. The lazy number one is: marcio ferreira and Stefan Hundhammer
link: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=264716
What's worse is that they tell me something like: "If you do that again I will formally ask a certain account of bugzilla to be canceled."
How am I supposed it eat that as a community-member ?
On Saturday 12 May 2007, Registration Account wrote:
but for what its worth, just getting this very small, but significant bug fixed has been a huge effort on your behalf, lest a battle and I thank you for making the software just a little better.
" very small, but significant bug" Background shading on an icon counts as significant? You must be mad! -- _____________________________________ John Andersen -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
If anything this bug should just have been changed to an enhancement - Major reason functionality was not effected. This would have been a far more productive exercise. If I log a serious bug and some one closes it wontfix, and after considering the impact of a fault in functionality I am happy to re-open, however I change it back to the QA team for re-assessment. On the other hand if I get some code cutter that is verging on abuse or enters into conversation of anything Like "The bug in the functionality, is noted, however considered not import - why are you worrying me... If they become emotive in any response I will close the bug as wontfix as I will not enter into a non-factual emotive discussion. The concept of quality in creation and testing of new code they produce myself is in my opinion - extremely poor, non verified and management obviously takes no interest in how development or Quality measures are being implemented by suse.de. I do have respect for many guys, but I know the ones I will close bug as wontfix - comment - author has no confidence in bug assignee. Scott :-) Alexey Eremenko wrote:
hi all !
Why are Novell guys closing perfectly valid bugs as WONTFIX ? They should stop being lazy all the day. That is not a feature-request but a bug. The lazy number one is: marcio ferreira and Stefan Hundhammer
link: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=264716
What's worse is that they tell me something like: "If you do that again I will formally ask a certain account of bugzilla to be canceled."
How am I supposed it eat that as a community-member ?
My guess is that those on the SUSE payroll have a portion of their job performance officially measured by how many bugs assigned to them remain open and how long they stay open while assigned to them, which would make it in their own personal best interest to get rid of them as quickly as possible by any method possible, regardless of best interest to the distro -- "The path of the righteous is like the first gleam of dawn, shining ever brighter till the full light of day." Proverbs 4:18 NIV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Felix Miata wrote:
My guess is that those on the SUSE payroll have a portion of their job performance officially measured by how many bugs assigned to them remain open and how long they stay open while assigned to them, which would make it in their own personal best interest to get rid of them as quickly as possible by any method possible, regardless of best interest to the distro
Every place that I've worked, there has never been a motivation to dispose of trouble-tickets by "any method possible" because IMPROPERLY closed tickets bring negative attention from managment. Having said that, whoever closed ticket to "WONTFIX" was correct -- there IS a fix on the way -- the unified icon set...but there was probably no category which is a MORE appropriate to say "taken care of in next release, but not worth correcting in this release" -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Saturday 2007-05-12 20:51, Aaron Kulkis wrote:
Felix Miata wrote:
My guess is that those on the SUSE payroll have a portion of their job performance officially measured by how many bugs assigned to them remain open and how long they stay open while assigned to them, which would make it in their own personal best interest to get rid of them as quickly as possible by any method possible, regardless of best interest to the distro
Every place that I've worked, there has never been a motivation to dispose of trouble-tickets by "any method possible" because IMPROPERLY closed tickets bring negative attention from managment.
Lucky you. I have worked at worse places where the culture imposed by management encouraged rapid disposal of trouble reports by any means possible. You just had to remind me of this. I thought I had successfully repressed these memories. At one place there was a manager who was an exceptionally nasty piece of work. She was entirely nontechnical and non IT -- her previous management experience was directing an assembly line for Nike sport shoes. She managed the software development process for failure, I think intentionally. The worse things got the more people she could justify hiring in her deparment and the more defacto control she had over the company. She had this bizarre belief that every problem could (SHOULD! WOULD!) be fixed in two days. Typo in an SQL script? Two days to fix. Object class for messages between the server and data collection client needs to be revised from the top down? Two days to fix. While her division foundered under the weight of over a couple dozen developers and QA testers six of us in the unix development department were making payroll for the entire company. Of course, you can guess which group was actually viewed as important. So when the company neglected to pursue further development contracts for the unix products we were transferred to HER barnyard. I saw people repeatedly fix problems by causing other bugs which were then fixed later by reinstating the original bug. It was horrible to watch. Everyone from the original unix development shop left in the space of a couple months. Now I need to restart my visits to the therapist. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sunday 13 May 2007 02:21:13 Felix Miata wrote:
My guess is that those on the SUSE payroll have a portion of their job performance officially measured by how many bugs assigned to them remain open and how long they stay open while assigned to them, which would make it in their own personal best interest to get rid of them as quickly as possible by any method possible, regardless of best interest to the distro
LOL! You made my day. What a especulation!! Just wait for boycottnovell.com to start hiring! Nobody works that way. I believe, since opensuse.org was opened, there is much more feedback trough bugzilla. The problem is, you can classify that feedback in various levels, in terms of quality, noise, contribution, etc. Sometime, small bugs you don't have the intention to fix right now because that part will be rewritten, or is a bug in a library, still cause a great amount of noise. You can waste huge important development time playing bugzilla ping-pong with some guy that thinks that he has the _right_ to get his "pixel rotated 90 degrees" bug fixed in no time, and even that, call developers lazy or other insults if the bug is not in the priority list at all. I still think LATER is better than WONTFIX. Still, from the community I have a couple of times received incredible bug reports, with lot of information, logs, fix suggestions, that basically provided enough information to fix some major bug in reduced time. Coincidentally, such reports are written in a nice and kind way, even if they are major bugs and the community member has to invest lot of energy to help the developer to fix the bug. Duncan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Monday 2007-05-14 at 13:51 +0200, Duncan Mac-Vicar Prett wrote:
I still think LATER is better than WONTFIX.
Me too. I think you should drop that "WONTFIX" from the list of available options, and use things like "can't fix" or "later". "Will not fix" feels not polite, kind of "I do not want to fix it". Depending on who receives it, they might be, er... pissed.
Still, from the community I have a couple of times received incredible bug reports, with lot of information, logs, fix suggestions, that basically provided enough information to fix some major bug in reduced time. Coincidentally, such reports are written in a nice and kind way, even if they are major bugs and the community member has to invest lot of energy to help the developer to fix the bug.
Glad to hear that. Still, some bugs receive no comment for months, a brief note, even to say, "noted, but too busy" would be nice and encourage reporting. For instance, I reported some minor issues that didn't get a comment. I understand they are minor, but I don't feel like reporting all I find because of that lack of feedback. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFGSFy1tTMYHG2NR9URAloPAJkBl5zIrUh53kualKzM3dXCR4zhFgCbB42z Mu7KEicBPcPxxlIrmKEPUyo= =Wagh -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 5/14/07, Carlos E. R. <robin.listas@telefonica.net> wrote:
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The Monday 2007-05-14 at 13:51 +0200, Duncan Mac-Vicar Prett wrote:
I still think LATER is better than WONTFIX.
Me too. I think you should drop that "WONTFIX" from the list of available options, and use things like "can't fix" or "later". "Will not fix" feels
why, its pretty standard for lots (all?) of bugzillas? The explanation was crystal clear in the comments... only onew person didnt get it (who?)... Stop giving silly work to people, they have plenty already. Marcio --- druid -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Monday 14 May 2007 14:57:24 Carlos E. R. wrote:
Glad to hear that. Still, some bugs receive no comment for months, a brief note, even to say, "noted, but too busy" would be nice and encourage reporting. For instance, I reported some minor issues that didn't get a comment. I understand they are minor, but I don't feel like reporting all I find because of that lack of feedback.
You are right. Sometimes just changing them to "accepted" from "new", and ping once in a while would help. But sometimes this happens the other way around, needinfo that never gets answered :-P -- Duncan Mac-Vicar Prett Novell :: SUSE R&D, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Monday 14 May 2007 09:51, Duncan Mac-Vicar Prett wrote:
But sometimes this happens the other way around, needinfo that never gets answered :-P
It happened and it will happen again if: - user has no idea that reporting is just a start of process - user just realized that there is no bug and can't addmit that And also: - needinfo is asking for information that one don't want to publish on Internet, - needinfo is asking for remote access to computer You are friendly people and we trust your software, but sometimes a bit of discretion might be helpful. Not everyone has test computers as Felix, and giving information from machine in use might be not good idea. BTW, what is policy about closing bugs that hang with need info for some time. -- Regards, Rajko. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
"Rajko M." <rmatov101@charter.net> writes:
On Monday 14 May 2007 09:51, Duncan Mac-Vicar Prett wrote:
But sometimes this happens the other way around, needinfo that never gets answered :-P
It happened and it will happen again if: - user has no idea that reporting is just a start of process - user just realized that there is no bug and can't addmit that
And also: - needinfo is asking for information that one don't want to publish on Internet,
You might still find a way to get the info to the requester, e.g. marking it as private so that not everybody can see it. But you can always say explicitely: Sorry, will not give this information.
- needinfo is asking for remote access to computer
This shouldn't happen.
You are friendly people and we trust your software, but sometimes a bit of discretion might be helpful. Not everyone has test computers as Felix, and giving information from machine in use might be not good idea.
BTW, what is policy about closing bugs that hang with need info for some time.
In general we close bugs as "CANTFIX" (using WONTFIX for it) if they are in NEEDINFO for longer than 4 weeks. If the user gives the info later, s/he can always reopen the bug, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, aj@suse.de, http://www.suse.de/~aj/ SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126
On Tuesday 15 May 2007 01:25, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
"Rajko M." <rmatov101@charter.net> writes:
On Monday 14 May 2007 09:51, Duncan Mac-Vicar Prett wrote:
But sometimes this happens the other way around, needinfo that never gets answered :-P
It happened and it will happen again if: - user has no idea that reporting is just a start of process - user just realized that there is no bug and can't addmit that
And also: - needinfo is asking for information that one don't want to publish on Internet,
You might still find a way to get the info to the requester, e.g. marking it as private so that not everybody can see it.
I'll see on a next bug report. What about direct email. Even if it is shared among you it is not Internet wide shared.
But you can always say explicitely: Sorry, will not give this information.
Well, I can't as I would like to see bug solved. My solution to this is actually no solution, I just avoid to report anything that would involve information that I can't read and edit parts that I don't want to see going out. The example is yast2 logs because of the size. .... -- Regards, Rajko. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
And also: - needinfo is asking for information that one don't want to publish on Internet,
This is the #1 non-sense I have read this week, even with all the ms news going on...
- needinfo is asking for remote access to computer
This is the #2 non-sense I have read this week, even with all the ms news going on... Marcio --- druid -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Tue 15 May 07 21:42, Druid wrote:
This is the #1 non-sense I have read this week, even with all the ms news going on...
No, you 'tard...that was #1.
This is the #2 non-sense I have read this week, even with all the ms news going on...
And that one is a tie to #1. Your family tree lacks any branches, right? -- "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." Benjamin Franklin "Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not." Thomas Jefferson -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Your family tree lacks any branches, right?
Please, go see a doctor and tell him you have a problem of lack of attention and care. Which is not going to be fulfilled by me, so stop trying, kid... gosh Marcio --- druid -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 2007/05/14 14:57 (GMT+0200) Carlos E. R. apparently typed:
The Monday 2007-05-14 at 13:51 +0200, Duncan Mac-Vicar Prett wrote:
I still think LATER is better than WONTFIX.
Me too. I think you should drop that "WONTFIX" from the list of available options, and use things like "can't fix" or "later". "Will not fix" feels not polite, kind of "I do not want to fix it". Depending on who receives it, they might be, er... pissed.
Even though LATER is used as a "resolution", it is not a real resolution, but merely a label. Priority and/or target date (even one that is effectively unknown or infinity) for dealing with the issue should be used instead of the non-resolution LATER, which should be purged from the system. -- "The path of the righteous is like the first gleam of dawn, shining ever brighter till the full light of day." Proverbs 4:18 NIV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Saturday 12 May 2007, Registration Account wrote:
The concept of quality in creation and testing of new code they produce myself is in my opinion - extremely poor,
If you had to restate that into meaningful english, how would you rephrase it? In other words: What in the hell did you mean? -- _____________________________________ John Andersen -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Saturday 12 May 2007 19:38, John Andersen wrote:
On Saturday 12 May 2007, Registration Account wrote:
The concept of quality in creation and testing of new code they produce myself is in my opinion - extremely poor,
If you had to restate that into meaningful english, how would you rephrase it?
In other words: What in the hell did you mean?
Taking 2 posts in the same style, it seems that personal frustration talks. Skipping link to bug, A "bug" was of little importance even if there would be no planned changes that will fix it. One of changes is what Alexey should be aware is effort to overhaul installation: http://en.opensuse.org/Pimp_My_Installer Ideas are welcome. It is probably not in sight for 10.3, but it will be after that. -- Regards, Rajko. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sat 12 May 07 18:58, Registration Account wrote: Please quit top-posting. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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Ken Jennings -
Marcus Meissner -
Rajko M. -
Registration Account -
Richard Bos -
Sorin Peste -
Stephan Binner -
Vince L