Re: [SuSE Linux] Some Comments regarding S.u.S.E. Linux
1. In the newbie installation (Install from the scratch) --it didn't install PPP (not to mention suseppp)--- l8r I had to manually install it. When I reinstalled the whole Linux again, I browsed and found that PPP was not selected either. Ok, they may leave that as an optional thing because some people may not connect via modem. Well, during configuration, YaST does ask if you want to configure modem---then was SLIP installed by default? I guess newbie shouldn't have to encounter that since most of the linux users uses PPP now days.
just choose what you need in the networking section. i think alot of people in europe use isdn, which is why it's setup as the default. but it's easily changed in yast during the initial install, or later. it's really worth the half hour or so it takes to go in and pick and choose what you want on your system during the installation, i think. and it's much less confusing after you've installed it once or twice. :) don't forget to check the doc section of the installation. there are some books you can add, and some german faq's/howtos you probably won't need. :)
2. After the installation is complete, system boots up and I get login prompt. No GUI cause my X server wasn't configured??? When they have cool stuff like SaX, why this wasn't a automatic thing?? They could implement XF86Setup ( which would give the autoprobe option)
again, yast does the trick here. after all your packages are installed, just go down the main menu option. then choose system admin, and from there you can setup how you want to log in. ascii is the default, but you can choose graphical as well, and then you have the choice between xdm, or kdm. kdm is the one you want (for your question below.) kdm will allow you to choose which wm you want to run, and allows you to shutdown from the login menu as well (providing you've got the permissions set to allow that.) kdm is really handy.
3. I wish they'd implement a prompt (gui would be nice) which would ask ---Do you want KDE, FVWM, and so on on boot (so newbie wont have to type it manually
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Greetings, On Thu, 3 Dec 1998, Rev. Michael Derek Barnett wrote:
1. In the newbie installation (Install from the scratch) --it didn't install PPP (not to mention suseppp)--- l8r I had to manually install it. When I reinstalled the whole Linux again, I browsed and found that PPP was not selected either. Ok, they may leave that as an optional thing because some people may not connect via modem. Well, during configuration, YaST does ask if you want to configure modem---then was SLIP installed by default? I guess newbie shouldn't have to encounter that since most of the linux users uses PPP now days.
I agree! Since SuSE is marketing the US heavily, PPPD and modem setup needs to be streamlined. Look at all the email traffic PPP problems cause!
just choose what you need in the networking section. i think alot of people in europe use isdn, which is why it's setup as the default. but it's easily changed in yast during the initial install, or later. it's really worth the
Good point about Germany. But how hard can it be to mod Yast to handle slip AND pppd so it's easier for newbies? :-) [ ... ]
-derek
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Steve Pauly wrote:
Since SuSE is marketing the US heavily, PPPD and modem setup needs to be streamlined. Look at all the email traffic PPP problems cause!
Hopefully, SuSE has been smart enough to include WvDial in v6.0 to specifically solve a lot of the pppd/dialup issues..... andy -- Sandy Seeds Going there today with SuSE Linux! - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A">http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A</A>> and the archiv at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A">http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A</A>>
I have never played with WvDial. Sounds like it is easy and popular. <ramble on> Some type of analysis needs to be done on Usenet and lists to see what the actual problem distribution is: IOW, I suspect it might look like this after omitting advocacy, MS bashing, spam, and off topic posts: Getting modems and pppd to work 25% Problems with Lilo 10% Getting X-windows to work 15% Getting KDE to work 15% StarOffice and Applixware 20% Other 15% Based on that, SuSE should prioritize modems/pppd, esp since people can not connect without it. <ramble off> Steve. On Thu, 3 Dec 1998, sandy wrote: Steve Pauly wrote:
Since SuSE is marketing the US heavily, PPPD and modem setup needs to be streamlined. Look at all the email traffic PPP problems cause!
Hopefully, SuSE has been smart enough to include WvDial in v6.0 to specifically solve a lot of the pppd/dialup issues..... andy -- Sandy Seeds Going there today with SuSE Linux! - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A">http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A</A>> and the archiv at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A">http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A</A>> - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A">http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A</A>> and the archiv at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A">http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A</A>>
Steve Pauly wrote:
I have never played with WvDial. Sounds like it is easy and popular.
Drop by their website for more info; it's really a super slick, semi-automated modem configurator and dialup app (sounds like I should offer a bit of snake oil to go with it). hehehe The WvDial URL: <A HREF="http://www.worldvisions.ca/wvdial/"><A HREF="http://www.worldvisions.ca/wvdial/</A">http://www.worldvisions.ca/wvdial/</A</A>> To not include it in 6.0 should qualify as a 'crime!' -- Sandy Seeds Going there today with SuSE Linux! - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A">http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A</A>> and the archiv at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A">http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A</A>>
Sandy, You're right. WvDial was a breeze, and I am connected with it now. SuSE definitely needs to consider using it somehow, or just including it. I will recommend it to people having trouble with the standard ppp configuration routines. Thanks. Steve. On Thu, 3 Dec 1998, sandy wrote: Steve Pauly wrote:
I have never played with WvDial. Sounds like it is easy and popular.
Drop by their website for more info; it's really a super slick, semi-automated modem configurator and dialup app (sounds like I should offer a bit of snake oil to go with it). hehehe The WvDial URL: <A HREF="http://www.worldvisions.ca/wvdial/"><A HREF="http://www.worldvisions.ca/wvdial/</A">http://www.worldvisions.ca/wvdial/</A</A>> To not include it in 6.0 should qualify as a 'crime!' -- Sandy Seeds Going there today with SuSE Linux! - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A">http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A</A>> and the archiv at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A">http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A</A>> - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A">http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A</A>> and the archiv at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A">http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A</A>>
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