How much memory/disk is required during YOU?
My Firewall is an "old" Pentium 166 w/ 2GB disk (some 670M free after I removed all extras) and 64M RAM. It's running 7.3 and SuSEFirewall2. I'm trying to update the packages using YOU. When YOU is trying to load the list of packages, i.e. before I can select which patches to install, it goes through to about 96%, but then it ends up exercising the hard disk (swapping?) continuously. Yesterday I let it go on for a couple of hours, but it didn't get out so I had to interrupt the process. All other processes are slowed down: window updates takes almost forever, the DHPC-server stops responding and so on. Even interrupting the YOU-process (without hitting the reset-button) takes at least 15 minutes. Seems that some more resources are needed, probably space - I just don't know what kind: HD, RAM or Swap? Of course I could update packages one by one, but I find the YOU so much more convenient. The firewall is running firewall2 (masquerading and routing - everything blocked from the outside), dhcpd and apache 1.3.x (just for the intra - I wrote a small utility that extracts some interesting details from various system and firewall log files to a text file that I can watch using a browser). I'm using X to talk to the guy. He is screen-/keyboard- and mouseless as he's standing far down in the darkest corner. Do I need to close down some of these to free more resources? Do I need to boot up in single user mode? Any ideas? /Henrik
On Mon, 2002-12-30 at 03:19, Hahnsson Henrik wrote:
My Firewall is an "old" Pentium 166 w/ 2GB disk (some 670M free after I removed all extras) and 64M RAM. It's running 7.3 and SuSEFirewall2.
I'm trying to update the packages using YOU.
Seems that some more resources are needed, probably space - I just don't know what kind: HD, RAM or Swap?
Of course I could update packages one by one, but I find the YOU so much more convenient.
The firewall is running firewall2 (masquerading and routing - everything blocked from the outside), dhcpd and apache 1.3.x (just for the intra - I wrote a small utility that extracts some interesting details from various system and firewall log files to a text file that I can watch using a browser). I'm using X to talk to the guy. He is screen-/keyboard- and mouseless as he's standing far down in the darkest corner.
Do I need to close down some of these to free more resources? Do I need to boot up in single user mode?
Any ideas?
My firewall is a P133 2.5GB drive w/ 96MB RAM with 384MB of HDD set for swap. I run SuSE 8.1 - minimium (no X); it has a DHCP server, DNS server, Firewall/Router setup. I can connect to YOU and update without any problems. I do, however, run YOU from ncurses version (i.e. cmd prompt) since there is no X installed. I originally had this machine with X installed and 8.1 (default-minimium graphical, no KDE) and with windowmaker I tried to install some updates via YOU, and it ran OK on small downloads, but it choked on one of the larger downloads. At the time it had 64MB RAM. So, my guess would be that it could be either running it with X, or too little RAM (or the combination of both). If you haven't already, run YOU from the cmd prompt without X running. This should solve it either way, since not running X also frees up some RAM. Worse comes to worse, you could do what I used to when I had the same settings on an old 486DX w/ SuSE 7.1 ...I used to burn the updates to CD on my faster PC and just install via Yast from the CD to the firewall. That way was tedious work, but didn't take too much time. -jeric -- JericAtSbcglobalDotNetwork 3:43am up 1 day, 4:30, 6 users, load average: 0.32, 0.26, 0.17
"Hahnsson Henrik"
My Firewall is an "old" Pentium 166 w/ 2GB disk (some 670M free after I removed all extras) and 64M RAM. It's running 7.3 and SuSEFirewall2.
I'm trying to update the packages using YOU. When YOU is trying to load the list of packages, i.e. before I can select which patches to install, it goes through to about 96%, but then it ends up exercising the hard disk (swapping?) continuously.
It's a known problem of YOU in SuSE 7.3 (at least it has been reported in this list several times) - YOU uses too much memory. It's not related to the SuSEFirewall2. See the the following output of "top" taken at the end of the patch download phase. The process "size" is 302 MiB. PID USER PRI NI SIZE RSS SHARE STAT %CPU %MEM TIME COMMAND 13498 root 19 0 302M 237M 237M R 73.7 47.3 8:50 y2bignfat YOU in 7.3 works OK on my machine with 512 MiB RAM but I must use fou4s (http://fou4s.gaugusch.at/) on a 150 MHz Pentium with 64 MiB RAM.
Do I need to close down some of these to free more resources?
I don't think it would help.
Do I need to boot up in single user mode?
No. I suggest you use fou4s too. -- Alexandr.Malusek@imv.liu.se
The 02.12.30 at 11:44, Alexandr Malusek wrote:
It's a known problem of YOU in SuSE 7.3 (at least it has been reported in this list several times) - YOU uses too much memory. It's not related to the SuSEFirewall2.
It's the same in Suse 7.1 as well, it needs lots of swap space. I think the memory usage is related to the number of patches; when it is nearly exhausted, the kernel starts killing apps to survive. I would try in text mode (runlevel 3?), more than half a gigabyte of swap available, and lots of pattience :-)
No. I suggest you use fou4s too.
That's something I have in my to do list for trying :-) -- Cheers, Carlos Robinson
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