[opensuse] After 11.2 upgrade X kills mouse & keyboard
One more issue in my upgrade saga. I've done zypper dup a couple times and I appear to have a good upgrade. (I ran out of diskspace in the middle, so I may have some corrupted packages.) I have inittab set to boot to init 3 and all is well. If I change that to init 5 or run startx, then I loose the keyboard/mouse on the console. I can still ssh in and my samba shares still work. Seems like there were some well known issues related to this with 11.2, but I can't find them currently. Does anyone know the solution? Thanks Greg -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 2:50 PM, Greg Freemyer
One more issue in my upgrade saga.
I've done zypper dup a couple times and I appear to have a good upgrade. (I ran out of diskspace in the middle, so I may have some corrupted packages.)
I have inittab set to boot to init 3 and all is well.
If I change that to init 5 or run startx, then I loose the keyboard/mouse on the console. I can still ssh in and my samba shares still work.
Seems like there were some well known issues related to this with 11.2, but I can't find them currently. Does anyone know the solution?
Thanks Greg -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Greg, I had the same problem on my laptop. What helped was signing up to all the 11.2 relevant community repositories (including the KDE repository) and then doing a general update. It must also be said that out of multiple 11.1 -> 11.2 upgrade attempts I have undertaken I had severe issues with all of them, on all of the machines I've tried them, and every time those issues were different. Boris. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Am Donnerstag 21 Januar 2010 20:50:19 schrieb Greg Freemyer:
One more issue in my upgrade saga.
I've done zypper dup a couple times and I appear to have a good upgrade. (I ran out of diskspace in the middle, so I may have some corrupted packages.)
I have inittab set to boot to init 3 and all is well.
If I change that to init 5 or run startx, then I loose the keyboard/mouse on the console. I can still ssh in and my samba shares still work.
Seems like there were some well known issues related to this with 11.2, but I can't find them currently. Does anyone know the solution?
Remove (or better renmae) your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file. It's not needed anymore in most cases and some times it make keyborad and mouse not work. Herbert -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 3:25 PM, Herbert Graeber
Am Donnerstag 21 Januar 2010 20:50:19 schrieb Greg Freemyer:
One more issue in my upgrade saga.
I've done zypper dup a couple times and I appear to have a good upgrade. (I ran out of diskspace in the middle, so I may have some corrupted packages.)
I have inittab set to boot to init 3 and all is well.
If I change that to init 5 or run startx, then I loose the keyboard/mouse on the console. I can still ssh in and my samba shares still work.
Seems like there were some well known issues related to this with 11.2, but I can't find them currently. Does anyone know the solution?
Remove (or better renmae) your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file. It's not needed anymore in most cases and some times it make keyborad and mouse not work.
Herbert -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
I had tried that. Didn't work for me though some people state it did for them. Boris. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 3:25 PM, Herbert Graeber
Am Donnerstag 21 Januar 2010 20:50:19 schrieb Greg Freemyer:
One more issue in my upgrade saga.
I've done zypper dup a couple times and I appear to have a good upgrade. (I ran out of diskspace in the middle, so I may have some corrupted packages.)
I have inittab set to boot to init 3 and all is well.
If I change that to init 5 or run startx, then I loose the keyboard/mouse on the console. I can still ssh in and my samba shares still work.
Seems like there were some well known issues related to this with 11.2, but I can't find them currently. Does anyone know the solution?
Remove (or better renmae) your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file. It's not needed anymore in most cases and some times it make keyborad and mouse not work.
No luck, If kde is a possible problem, how can I change to a simpler gui from the command line prior to running startx? This is primarily a samba and web server, so I normally just run the gui for some admin work from time to time. I don't need kde or gnome. As long as I have something like "alt-f2" that lets me run gui apps. Greg -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 2010/01/21 15:37 (GMT-0500) Greg Freemyer composed:
how can I change to a simpler gui from the command line prior to running startx?
I've wondered more than once why finding a simple way to start the non-default DM seems so difficult to find. I looked again after first your post for well over an hour without finding a direct way. A relatively simple indirect one that works in 11.2 is to create ~/.xinitrc containing e.g. 'exec icewm', which if exists will cause IceWM to start as a result of running startx. -- "Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." John Adams, 2nd US President Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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On 2010/01/21 15:37 (GMT-0500) Greg Freemyer composed:
how can I change to a simpler gui from the command line prior to running startx?
I've wondered more than once why finding a simple way to start the non-default DM seems so difficult to find. I looked again after first your post for well over an hour without finding a direct way.
A relatively simple indirect one that works in 11.2 is to create ~/.xinitrc containing e.g. 'exec icewm', which if exists will cause IceWM to start as a result of running startx.
from runlevel 3 startx /usr/bin/icewm -- :0& or your choise of window manager -- Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA HOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://counter.li.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday, 2010-01-21 at 18:51 -0500, Felix Miata wrote:
On 2010/01/21 15:37 (GMT-0500) Greg Freemyer composed:
how can I change to a simpler gui from the command line prior to running startx?
I've wondered more than once why finding a simple way to start the non-default DM seems so difficult to find. I looked again after first your post for well over an hour without finding a direct way.
startx kde startx gnome ... etc. If you want to start a second session, the syntax is "startx kde -- :1". "wmlist" will print a list of available wm. However, for some reason I don't know, this syntax fails with 11.2 («bad command line option "xterm"»). Go figure. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAktY7LAACgkQtTMYHG2NR9XMuwCeOne49fb0/sgD7BfE8147WJMo rkYAnj7n4hF8TpIqUNpqy8wEbiCpuOSA =Cw4Q -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
* Carlos E. R.
startx kde
startx gnome
... etc.
If you want to start a second session, the syntax is "startx kde -- :1". "wmlist" will print a list of available wm.
but wmlist does not necessarily provide all of the installed windowmanagers :^(
However, for some reason I don't know, this syntax fails with 11.2 («bad command line option "xterm"»). Go figure.
I have not tried with kde/gnome, but icewm, xfce4, enlightenment, e16 and lxde work for me in 11.2 (from runlevel 3). -- Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA HOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://counter.li.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday, 2010-01-21 at 19:17 -0500, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
If you want to start a second session, the syntax is "startx kde -- :1". "wmlist" will print a list of available wm.
but wmlist does not necessarily provide all of the installed windowmanagers :^(
No? I think it does on my machine.
However, for some reason I don't know, this syntax fails with 11.2 («bad command line option "xterm"»). Go figure.
I have not tried with kde/gnome, but icewm, xfce4, enlightenment, e16 and lxde work for me in 11.2 (from runlevel 3).
I have discovered that the command works if you give the full path to the wm, but fails if you give only the name - which worked on earlier versions. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAktY74wACgkQtTMYHG2NR9X+FQCgjnb1pbA6edV2JXeQ48cmEPgH 7KQAnAlWtAmT19LAK5QJQk1YwljiUZzC =Mgko -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
* Carlos E. R.
On Thursday, 2010-01-21 at 19:17 -0500, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
but wmlist does not necessarily provide all of the installed windowmanagers :^(
No? I think it does on my machine.
may be a quirk on my system, but: wmlist enlightenment openbox icewm-session twm I also have kde, gnome, xfce4, lxde, e16, e17, twm and maybe a few I don't recall.... -- Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA HOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://counter.li.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 22/01/10 00:57, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
may be a quirk on my system, but: wmlist enlightenment openbox icewm-session twm
I also have kde, gnome, xfce4, lxde, e16, e17, twm and maybe a few I don't recall....
I just had a look at the wmlist script, all it does is call type -p $WM_NAME for a bunch of different names. However many of them don't make sense, e.g. there is no kdm or gdm in the list, just "kde" and "gnome" which of course won't show up. Will try and have a look at updating it, but if anyone wants to beat me to it, the file belongs to the package "x11-tools". Regards, Tejas -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Friday, 2010-01-22 at 11:13 -0000, Tejas Guruswamy wrote:
On 22/01/10 00:57, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
may be a quirk on my system, but: wmlist enlightenment openbox icewm-session twm
I also have kde, gnome, xfce4, lxde, e16, e17, twm and maybe a few I don't recall....
I just had a look at the wmlist script, all it does is call type -p $WM_NAME for a bunch of different names. However many of them don't make sense, e.g. there is no kdm or gdm in the list, just "kde" and "gnome" which of course won't show up.
Ah!! This sounds very familiar. I think we talked about this problem years ago and reported it. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAktZ2KQACgkQtTMYHG2NR9W6pQCghXpyUxK26v6KlVjwFnxFtW6n xSsAn28G7uYFUPllk9AYvRrJp7pUzlCO =dFCg -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 3:37 PM, Greg Freemyer
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 3:25 PM, Herbert Graeber
wrote: Am Donnerstag 21 Januar 2010 20:50:19 schrieb Greg Freemyer:
One more issue in my upgrade saga.
I've done zypper dup a couple times and I appear to have a good upgrade. (I ran out of diskspace in the middle, so I may have some corrupted packages.)
I have inittab set to boot to init 3 and all is well.
If I change that to init 5 or run startx, then I loose the keyboard/mouse on the console. I can still ssh in and my samba shares still work.
Seems like there were some well known issues related to this with 11.2, but I can't find them currently. Does anyone know the solution?
Remove (or better renmae) your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file. It's not needed anymore in most cases and some times it make keyborad and mouse not work.
No luck,
If kde is a possible problem, how can I change to a simpler gui from the command line prior to running startx?
This is primarily a samba and web server, so I normally just run the gui for some admin work from time to time. I don't need kde or gnome.
As long as I have something like "alt-f2" that lets me run gui apps.
Greg
All, I'm still having the no keyboard / mouse issue. I deleted Xorg and KDE totally. then I reinstalled just X, so kde should not be the problem. When I try startx it now defaults to fvwm2, but I still have no keyboard mouse. /etc/X11/xorg.conf has been renamed, so it is not an issue. Should I put it back in place and try to experiment with this section of the file? Section "ServerFlags" # Uncomment the following option to reenable kbd/mouse driver input sections. # Otherwise evdev driver is used. #Option "AutoAddDevices" "off" Thanks Greg -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Monday, 2010-01-25 at 17:02 -0500, Greg Freemyer wrote:
I'm still having the no keyboard / mouse issue.
I deleted Xorg and KDE totally. then I reinstalled just X, so kde should not be the problem.
When I try startx it now defaults to fvwm2, but I still have no keyboard mouse.
/etc/X11/xorg.conf has been renamed, so it is not an issue.
Have a look at the xorg log file; when you use startx, it is somewhere on your home directory. In runlevel 5, it goes to "/var/log/Xorg.0.log".
Should I put it back in place and try to experiment with this section of the file?
Section "ServerFlags" # Uncomment the following option to reenable kbd/mouse driver input sections. # Otherwise evdev driver is used. #Option "AutoAddDevices" "off"
It would be an option. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkteNZYACgkQtTMYHG2NR9XsZQCfSFuMJA74opbvSADvArqEZ+pD gVwAn3qsDqygyoUMU3ICxVCpzMgE9VRz =O99C -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday 21 January 2010 20:50:19 Greg Freemyer wrote:
One more issue in my upgrade saga.
I've done zypper dup a couple times and I appear to have a good upgrade. (I ran out of diskspace in the middle, so I may have some corrupted packages.)
I have inittab set to boot to init 3 and all is well.
If I change that to init 5 or run startx, then I loose the keyboard/mouse on the console. I can still ssh in and my samba shares still work.
Seems like there were some well known issues related to this with 11.2, but I can't find them currently. Does anyone know the solution?
Thanks Greg
I had a similar problem. Mine was related to the following Section "ServerFlags" # Uncomment the following option to reenable kbd/mouse driver input sections. # Otherwise evdev driver is used. #Option "AutoAddDevices" "off" Greetings, Javier
On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 14:50:19 -0500, Greg Freemyer wrote:
If I change that to init 5 or run startx, then I loose the keyboard/mouse on the console. I can still ssh in and my samba shares still work.
Seems like there were some well known issues related to this with 11.2, but I can't find them currently. Does anyone know the solution?
I ran into this on one system out of the 5 I've upgraded. Of course, it was my main 64-bit desktop at home. :-( Start into runlevel 3, make sure the network is running, and apply updates. Once I did that, I got my keyboard and mouse back in X. In my case anyways, it was only a problem if X started. I could connect remotely (as you did) and switch to runlevel 3, and get the keyboard back. Jim -- Jim Henderson Please keep on-topic replies on the list so everyone benefits -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
One more issue in my upgrade saga.
I've done zypper dup a couple times and I appear to have a good upgrade. (I ran out of diskspace in the middle, so I may have some corrupted packages.)
I have inittab set to boot to init 3 and all is well.
If I change that to init 5 or run startx, then I loose the keyboard/mouse on the console. I can still ssh in and my samba shares still work.
Seems like there were some well known issues related to this with 11.2, but I can't find them currently. Does anyone know the solution?
Thanks Greg I had exactly the same result as you yesterday. I tried a few times with no luck so I resorted to doing a fresh install via DVD in the end. I then added
On Thursday 21 Jan 2010 19:50:19 Greg Freemyer wrote: the Factory KDE4 repo to get the the latest KDE4 - Yast doesn't install anything from this repo no matter what priority i set so i had to use "zypper dup" to get it. All is well now apart from a painfully slow Kmail gobbling up CPU between 40% and 70%, takes ages to read, send mails etc. regards Ian -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 08:25:37AM +0000, ianseeks wrote: [8<]
I had exactly the same result as you yesterday. I tried a few times with no luck so I resorted to doing a fresh install via DVD in the end. I then added the Factory KDE4 repo to get the the latest KDE4 - Yast doesn't install anything from this repo no matter what priority i set so i had to use "zypper dup" to get it.
up and patch does _not_ perform vendor changes! while dup does. From man zypper on a openSUSE 11.2 system: dist-upgrade (dup) [options] Perform a distribution upgrade. This command applies the state of (specified) repositories onto the system; upgrades (or even downgrades) installed packages to versions found in reposito- ries, removes packages that are no longer in the repositories and pose a dependency problem for the upgrade, handles package splits and renames, etc. If no repositories are specified via --from or --repo options, zypper will do the upgrade with all defined repositories. This can be a problem if the system contains conflicting reposito- ries, like repositories for two different distribution releases. This often happens if one forgets to remove older release repos- itory after adding a new one, say openSUSE 11.1 and openSUSE 11.2. To avoid the above trouble, you can specify the repositories from which to do the upgrade using the --from or --repo options. The difference between these two is that when --repo is used, zypper acts as if it knew onle the specified repositories, while with --from zypper can eventually use also the rest of enabled repositories to satisfy package dependencies. Lars -- Lars Müller [ˈlaː(r)z ˈmʏlɐ] Samba Team SUSE Linux, Maxfeldstraße 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany
On Friday 22 Jan 2010 10:00:09 Lars Müller wrote:
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 08:25:37AM +0000, ianseeks wrote: [8<]
I had exactly the same result as you yesterday. I tried a few times with no luck so I resorted to doing a fresh install via DVD in the end. I then added the Factory KDE4 repo to get the the latest KDE4 - Yast doesn't install anything from this repo no matter what priority i set so i had to use "zypper dup" to get it.
up and patch does _not_ perform vendor changes!
while dup does.
From man zypper on a openSUSE 11.2 system:
dist-upgrade (dup) [options] Perform a distribution upgrade. This command applies the state of (specified) repositories onto the system; upgrades (or even downgrades) installed packages to versions found in reposito- ries, removes packages that are no longer in the repositories and pose a dependency problem for the upgrade, handles package splits and renames, etc.
If no repositories are specified via --from or --repo options, zypper will do the upgrade with all defined repositories. This can be a problem if the system contains conflicting reposito- ries, like repositories for two different distribution releases. This often happens if one forgets to remove older release repos- itory after adding a new one, say openSUSE 11.1 and openSUSE 11.2.
To avoid the above trouble, you can specify the repositories from which to do the upgrade using the --from or --repo options. The difference between these two is that when --repo is used, zypper acts as if it knew onle the specified repositories, while with --from zypper can eventually use also the rest of enabled repositories to satisfy package dependencies.
Lars I used "dup" to get from 11.1 to 11.2 but i didn't realise that you needed it to get KDE4 factory updates -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Friday 22 January 2010 20:17:43 ianseeks wrote:
I used "dup" to get from 11.1 to 11.2 but i didn't realise that you needed it to get KDE4 factory updates
Normally you don't, but in some cases, the developer may decide to split a package in two, or rename a package. These things happen in bleeding-edge development situations. dup handles that, up doesn't Anders -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Friday 22 Jan 2010 19:22:16 Anders Johansson wrote:
On Friday 22 January 2010 20:17:43 ianseeks wrote:
I used "dup" to get from 11.1 to 11.2 but i didn't realise that you needed it to get KDE4 factory updates
Normally you don't, but in some cases, the developer may decide to split a package in two, or rename a package. These things happen in bleeding-edge development situations. dup handles that, up doesn't
Anders Thanks. Is that why Yast ignores the updates? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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Anders Johansson
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Boris Epstein
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Carlos E. R.
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Felix Miata
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Greg Freemyer
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Herbert Graeber
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ianseeks
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Javier Llorente
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Jim Henderson
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Lars Müller
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Patrick Shanahan
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Tejas Guruswamy