[opensuse] How to type special chars?
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I haven't spent much thought about this in the 15 or so years I deal with Linux now but since I moved to Finland, it struck me... How do I type combined chars like éêë or ü under Opensuse 12.1 Under Windows and OSX, you type e.g. ´ and then e. On the Finnish keyboard there is a " button at the place where the ü is on the German keyboard, but it's not actually a " button. It is meant to create Üü by first pressing the button and then pressing Uu but again, similar to the ´ ` key, it immediately creates a " when you press it. So how do I type those combined chars? - -S - -- (o_ Stefan Gofferje | SCLT, MCP, CCSA //\ Reg'd Linux User #247167 | VCP #2263 V_/_ Heckler & Koch - the original point and click interface 09:12am up 20:56, 3 users, load average: 0.19, 0.20, 0.29 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.18 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAk8k82QACgkQbQKZlCdPOMMKbQCffXUWIvLHwqolZ/SbVrScUgPw nnYAnit3nYVT4wZ+ZKv04A9ispsAHGei =HT7w -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 01/29/2012 03:21 PM, Stefan Gofferje wrote:
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Hi,
I haven't spent much thought about this in the 15 or so years I deal with Linux now but since I moved to Finland, it struck me... How do I type combined chars like éêë or ü under Opensuse 12.1
Under Windows and OSX, you type e.g. ´ and then e. On the Finnish keyboard there is a " button at the place where the ü is on the German keyboard, but it's not actually a " button. It is meant to create Üü by first pressing the button and then pressing Uu but again, similar to the ´ ` key, it immediately creates a " when you press it.
So how do I type those combined chars?
- -S
I asked the same question a few months ago and I was directed to use a compose key, which I find very useful. Here are 2 URLs that describe the compose key and how to map it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compose_key http://fsymbols.com/keyboard/linux/compose/ In KDE 4.7, under System Settings -> Input Devices -> Keyboard -> Advanced Tab, you can select which keys to use as a compose key. I use the left and right microsoft keys, and then a combination of keystrokes to make the different characters, like these: è from compose key, `, and e ü from compose key, ", and u â from compose key, ^, and a ñ from compose key, ~, and n æ from compose key, a, and e There are several combinations that are built into the compose key functionality once you set it up. Also in that same area for the keyboard under the layouts tab, you can install a Finnish keyboard or many other languages. HTH George -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 2012-01-29 11:01, George Olson wrote:
On 01/29/2012 03:21 PM, Stefan Gofferje wrote:
Also in that same area for the keyboard under the layouts tab, you can install a Finnish keyboard or many other languages.
And one of those is the US keyboard with international mappings. It maps the " as a dead key to get "a=ä, etc. Provided your keyboard is the US one, I don't know which one the OP has. - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 11.4 x86_64 "Celadon" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk8lby0ACgkQtTMYHG2NR9X9ewCfdAe6kbCU/MNkKKn9+yOoWU+N HxwAmwUyKkUUeZ4tQbJ52wBnCLehVXgC =z2A+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Sun 29 January 2012 17:09:17 Carlos E. R. wrote:
And one of those is the US keyboard with international mappings. It maps the " as a dead key to get "a=ä, etc.
This is exactly how it is supposed to work, but the Finnish keyboard map with a Finnish keyboard does NOT do that. If you hit the " key, you get " and if you hit the ´ key you get ´. Impossible to write combined chars. Anything else, especially combinations like ctrl-alt-u-<number>, is hardly acceptable to write continuous text. Such are X-only solutions, because people also write e.g. emails in the console. So it seems, there is a bug in the Finnish keymapping... - -- (o_ Stefan Gofferje | SCLT, MCP, CCSA //\ Reg'd Linux User #247167 | VCP #2263 V_/_ Heckler & Koch - the original point and click interface 00:59am up 10:48, 3 users, load average: 0.47, 0.62, 0.64 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.18 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAk8nIlUACgkQbQKZlCdPOMN6SACeIPa5YiSjbiKEuI9cuua55jFA aCAAnjqsR09VhCWHe3zqJTNLCSrSwEBA zGK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 01:05:53AM +0200, Stefan Gofferje wrote:
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On Sun 29 January 2012 17:09:17 Carlos E. R. wrote:
And one of those is the US keyboard with international mappings. It maps the " as a dead key to get "a=ä, etc.
This is exactly how it is supposed to work, but the Finnish keyboard map with a Finnish keyboard does NOT do that. If you hit the " key, you get " and if you hit the ´ key you get ´. Impossible to write combined chars.
Anything else, especially combinations like ctrl-alt-u-<number>, is hardly acceptable to write continuous text. Such are X-only solutions, because people also write e.g. emails in the console.
So it seems, there is a bug in the Finnish keymapping...
Please check if this is on KDE or system level. For the system level setting see /etc/sysconfig/keyboard:KEYTABLE There I've set de-latin1.map.gz which allows me to enter for example ẽ, é, or è by first hitting one time the ~-, ´-, or `-key followed by one 'e' char. Cheers, Lars -- Lars Müller [ˈlaː(r)z ˈmʏlɐ] Samba Team SUSE Linux, Maxfeldstraße 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 31 Jan 2012 00:27:03 +0100 Lars Müller <lmuelle@suse.de> wrote
For the system level setting see /etc/sysconfig/keyboard:KEYTABLE There I've set de-latin1.map.gz which allows me to enter for example ẽ, é, or è by first hitting one time the ~-, ´-, or '-key followed by one 'e' char.
That was the right hint. For some reason, as well the Finnish as also the German layout were selected with the "nodeadkeys" option. Removed that - works :). Thx, S. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.18 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAk8nVNcACgkQbQKZlCdPOMMzhgCgh7kb3Vs8pOv3g2xELZ/ayl7X BTAAoIiknFij6GhMIppJyGdyxI5Y4Eo/ =2XYY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 04:41:22AM +0200, Stefan Gofferje wrote:
On Tue, 31 Jan 2012 00:27:03 +0100 Lars Müller <lmuelle@suse.de> wrote
For the system level setting see /etc/sysconfig/keyboard:KEYTABLE There I've set de-latin1.map.gz which allows me to enter for example ẽ, é, or è by first hitting one time the ~-, ´-, or '-key followed by one 'e' char.
That was the right hint. For some reason, as well the Finnish as also the German layout were selected with the "nodeadkeys" option.
This very likely is the default as it satisfies the needs of the majority.
Removed that - works :).
Perfect. Now we all are eager to see some special finnish chars in your signature. ;) Lars -- Lars Müller [ˈlaː(r)z ˈmʏlɐ] Samba Team SUSE Linux, Maxfeldstraße 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Tue 31 January 2012 10:36:05 Lars Müller wrote:
Perfect. Now we all are eager to see some special finnish chars in your signature. ;)
Well, the Finnish chars weren't the problem with the Finnish keyboard. But French were (in my name) and I couldn't type any ü or ß to correspond in German :). - -- (o_ Stefan Gofferjé | SCLT, MCP, CCSA //\ Reg'd Linux User #247167 | VCP #2263 V_/_ Heckler & Koch - the original point and click interface 04:16am up 1 day 14:05, 3 users, load average: 1.95, 1.61, 1.11 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.18 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAk8ooRUACgkQbQKZlCdPOMOtOACeJHOpmJYPB2x1RhI46myjkWce DikAmwQHFkf8fuJDIFaHst5s6SWgFjKt =uV6J -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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