[opensuse] Sound problems
Hi, I recently installed 11.3 on this laptop, and couldn't get the wireless to work. So, I reinstalled 11.1 before I left home on this business trip. I didn't reinstall skype before I left home, so I decided to install it today. I never could get it to work with pulseaudio before, and the sound didn't work with it today either. So I decided to uninstall pulseaudio and get it to work with alsa, like I did before. I ran alsaconf, and then used yast to configue my soundcard. Skype still doesn't work, but worse than that I lost sound in flash on firefox and opera. I want to start to fix this by getting the sound back in flash. I tried to reinstall flash, but that didn't help. Any ideas of what to do? Thanks in advance, Mark -- Mark Misulich <munguanaweza@gmail.com> -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 08:45, Mark Misulich wrote:
Hi, I recently installed 11.3 on this laptop, and couldn't get the wireless to work. So, I reinstalled 11.1 before I left home on this business trip.
I didn't reinstall skype before I left home, so I decided to install it today. I never could get it to work with pulseaudio before, and the sound didn't work with it today either. So I decided to uninstall pulseaudio and get it to work with alsa, like I did before.
Skype, PulseAudio and openSUSE 11.1 do not play well together if you want to use a headset with Skype. It's a mess when PA is involved. It's considerably better with 11.3 and other recently released distros.
I ran alsaconf, and then used yast to configue my soundcard.
Skype still doesn't work, but worse than that I lost sound in flash on firefox and opera.
I want to start to fix this by getting the sound back in flash. I tried to reinstall flash, but that didn't help.
First observation.. reinstalling Flash will do exactly zero for fixing the sound issues. That might work in the Windows world, but Linux configuration problems are typically not corrected by reinstalling an individual application... the misconfiguration remains because the configuration is done elsewhere.
Any ideas of what to do?
More info is needed. What laptop? Whta Wireless problems did you have? Are you still on 11.1? (I assume yes) What sound card? KDE? Gnome? Other DE? Specific symptoms? Have you tried the obvious (making sure PCM isn't set to zero, something that has caught all of us at one point or another)? You lost sound implies it was working... was that before or after you removed PA and set up ALSA? C. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Fri, 2010-08-13 at 09:33 +0200, C wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 08:45, Mark Misulich wrote:
> > Hi,
> > I recently installed 11.3 on this laptop, and couldn't get the wireless to work. So, I reinstalled 11.1 before I left home on this business trip.
> >
> > I didn't reinstall skype before I left home, so I decided to install it today. I never could get it to work with pulseaudio before, and the sound didn't work with it today either. So I decided to uninstall pulseaudio and get it to work with alsa, like I did before.
>
> Skype, PulseAudio and openSUSE 11.1 do not play well together if you
> want to use a headset with Skype. It's a mess when PA is involved.
> It's considerably better with 11.3 and other recently released
> distros.
>
>
> > I ran alsaconf, and then used yast to configue my soundcard.
> >
> > Skype still doesn't work, but worse than that I lost sound in flash on firefox and opera.
> >
> > I want to start to fix this by getting the sound back in flash. I tried to reinstall flash, but that didn't help.
>
> First observation.. reinstalling Flash will do exactly zero for fixing
> the sound issues. That might work in the Windows world, but Linux
> configuration problems are typically not corrected by reinstalling an
> individual application... the misconfiguration remains because the
> configuration is done elsewhere.
>
>
> > Any ideas of what to do?
>
>
> More info is needed. What laptop? Whta Wireless problems did you
> have? Are you still on 11.1? (I assume yes) What sound card? KDE?
> Gnome? Other DE? Specific symptoms? Have you tried the obvious (making
> sure PCM isn't set to zero, something that has caught all of us at one
> point or another)? You lost sound implies it was working... was that
> before or after you removed PA and set up ALSA?
>
> C.
Ok, here is some info.
1. The laptop is a Toshiba Satelite U505-2950.
2. The wireless problem is that the driver wouldn't work with Opensuse
11.3. When I reinstalled Opensuse 11.1 and recompiled the driver, it
worked. I posted on the list about three or four weeks ago, and there
wasn't any help for the problem. So my solution was to reinstall 11.1
to get the wireless back. At this point it is moot, 11.1 and the
wireless works for now and it is installed.
3. I am back on 11.1 after installing 11.3. Since the wireless didn't
work with 11.3, I reinstalled 11.1 with kde3.5.
4. The sound card is a 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller.
5. The specific symptoms are:
-The sound worked, but not on skype with pulseaudio.
-I removed pulseaudio with yast.
-I used alsaconf to configure sound.
-I used yast to configure the sound card
-Sound works with alsa now, but not everything. Here is what
doesn't work now with alsa:
-the kde jingle doesn't sound when the desktop boots up
-sound doesn't work in flash on the two web browsers, firefox & opera
-sound doesn't work in skype
I did try the simple things that I know about, such as making sure the
volume is up, both in kmix and in the flash display window (like in
youtube).
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On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 1:58 PM, Mark Misulich <munguanaweza@gmail.com> wrote: > On Fri, 2010-08-13 at 09:33 +0200, C wrote: >> On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 08:45, Mark Misulich wrote: >> > Hi, >> > I recently installed 11.3 on this laptop, and couldn't get the wireless to work. So, I reinstalled 11.1 before I left home on this business trip. >> > >> > I didn't reinstall skype before I left home, so I decided to install it today. I never could get it to work with pulseaudio before, and the sound didn't work with it today either. So I decided to uninstall pulseaudio and get it to work with alsa, like I did before. >> >> Skype, PulseAudio and openSUSE 11.1 do not play well together if you >> want to use a headset with Skype. It's a mess when PA is involved. >> It's considerably better with 11.3 and other recently released >> distros. >> >> >> > I ran alsaconf, and then used yast to configue my soundcard. >> > >> > Skype still doesn't work, but worse than that I lost sound in flash on firefox and opera. >> > >> > I want to start to fix this by getting the sound back in flash. I tried to reinstall flash, but that didn't help. >> >> First observation.. reinstalling Flash will do exactly zero for fixing >> the sound issues. That might work in the Windows world, but Linux >> configuration problems are typically not corrected by reinstalling an >> individual application... the misconfiguration remains because the >> configuration is done elsewhere. >> >> >> > Any ideas of what to do? >> >> >> More info is needed. What laptop? Whta Wireless problems did you >> have? Are you still on 11.1? (I assume yes) What sound card? KDE? >> Gnome? Other DE? Specific symptoms? Have you tried the obvious (making >> sure PCM isn't set to zero, something that has caught all of us at one >> point or another)? You lost sound implies it was working... was that >> before or after you removed PA and set up ALSA? >> >> C. > Ok, here is some info. > 1. The laptop is a Toshiba Satelite U505-2950. > > 2. The wireless problem is that the driver wouldn't work with Opensuse > 11.3. When I reinstalled Opensuse 11.1 and recompiled the driver, it > worked. I posted on the list about three or four weeks ago, and there > wasn't any help for the problem. So my solution was to reinstall 11.1 > to get the wireless back. At this point it is moot, 11.1 and the > wireless works for now and it is installed. > > 3. I am back on 11.1 after installing 11.3. Since the wireless didn't > work with 11.3, I reinstalled 11.1 with kde3.5. > > 4. The sound card is a 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller. > > 5. The specific symptoms are: > > -The sound worked, but not on skype with pulseaudio. > -I removed pulseaudio with yast. > -I used alsaconf to configure sound. > -I used yast to configure the sound card > -Sound works with alsa now, but not everything. Here is what > doesn't work now with alsa: > -the kde jingle doesn't sound when the desktop boots up > -sound doesn't work in flash on the two web browsers, firefox & opera > -sound doesn't work in skype > > I did try the simple things that I know about, such as making sure the > volume is up, both in kmix and in the flash display window (like in > youtube). > I also had issues with 11.1/alsa/skype, though different HW (VIA VT1708S) and different symptoms. For me 1 symptom was that sound from Line In (my TV card) has only been heard on headphones and never from the speaker. This problem was resolved in alsa version 1.22 or older. I installed alsa from http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/multimedia:/audio:/KMP/openSUSE_11.1_Update http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/multimedia:/libs/openSUSE_11.1 and http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/multimedia:/apps/openSUSE_11.1 Since then everything worked except MIC in skype. I've read on Skype forum that people experienced this problem and someone found out that the previous version of Skype works correctly so I installed that version - 2.1.0.47 and now everything is OK. Not sure it will help you, but at least trying the latest alsa version may be a good idea. 11.1 uses some quite old version (1.18, if I remember correctly). Regards, -- Mark Goldstein -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 12:58, Mark Misulich wrote:
1. The laptop is a Toshiba Satelite U505-2950.
2. The wireless problem is that the driver wouldn't work with Opensuse 11.3. When I reinstalled Opensuse 11.1 and recompiled the driver, it worked. I posted on the list about three or four weeks ago, and there wasn't any help for the problem. So my solution was to reinstall 11.1 to get the wireless back. At this point it is moot, 11.1 and the wireless works for now and it is installed.
No worries.. was just one of the questions I added to the list :-)
3. I am back on 11.1 after installing 11.3. Since the wireless didn't work with 11.3, I reinstalled 11.1 with kde3.5.
4. The sound card is a 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller.
If I remember right, 11.1 did not support that chipset. So...this could be exactly what Mark G. suggested... a really really old version of ALSA. I'd def update that as a first try. David Rankin put together a sound help page back in the 11.0 time frame... http://www.3111skyline.com/linux/openSuSE-Alsa-update.php which might have some useful info for you. C. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 13:36, C wrote:
4. The sound card is a 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller.
If I remember right, 11.1 did not support that chipset. So...this could be exactly what Mark G. suggested... a really really old version of ALSA. I'd def update that as a first try.
I should have said... "did not support that chipset properly"... or "well". If you poke around in the forums etc on that specific chipset and oS 11.1, you will bumble on quite a few people with the exact same problem. The common solution was what Mark G. suggests :-P C. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Fri, 2010-08-13 at 13:36 +0200, C wrote:
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 12:58, Mark Misulich wrote:
1. The laptop is a Toshiba Satelite U505-2950.
2. The wireless problem is that the driver wouldn't work with Opensuse 11.3. When I reinstalled Opensuse 11.1 and recompiled the driver, it worked. I posted on the list about three or four weeks ago, and there wasn't any help for the problem. So my solution was to reinstall 11.1 to get the wireless back. At this point it is moot, 11.1 and the wireless works for now and it is installed.
No worries.. was just one of the questions I added to the list :-)
3. I am back on 11.1 after installing 11.3. Since the wireless didn't work with 11.3, I reinstalled 11.1 with kde3.5.
4. The sound card is a 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller.
If I remember right, 11.1 did not support that chipset. So...this could be exactly what Mark G. suggested... a really really old version of ALSA. I'd def update that as a first try.
David Rankin put together a sound help page back in the 11.0 time frame... http://www.3111skyline.com/linux/openSuSE-Alsa-update.php which might have some useful info for you.
C.
I have been working through the stuff above. I have updated all my alsa packages to the very latest available, but that didn't fix the problem. Working down through David Rankins troubleshooting wiki, I found that in configuring the sound system in kde, that if either "auto detect" or "advanced linux sound architecture" is selected there is no sound when the test button is pressed. If I select "oss" then there is sound when the test button is pressed. However there is still no sound in the web browsers in flash. Any ideas? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Hi, On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 3:40 AM, Mark Misulich <munguanaweza@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 2010-08-13 at 13:36 +0200, C wrote:
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 12:58, Mark Misulich wrote:
1. The laptop is a Toshiba Satelite U505-2950. ... 4. The sound card is a 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller.
.. I have been working through the stuff above. I have updated all my alsa packages to the very latest available, but that didn't fix the problem.
Working down through David Rankins troubleshooting wiki, I found that in configuring the sound system in kde, that if either "auto detect" or "advanced linux sound architecture" is selected there is no sound when the test button is pressed. If I select "oss" then there is sound when the test button is pressed. However there is still no sound in the web browsers in flash.
I can only say that in my case in KDE 3.5 I do see "advanced linux sound architecture". I'm attaching the output of alsa-info.sh on my machine. You can try to compare it with yours, but as I said before, my HW is different. These are my versions (funny, I never noticed that I still have an old alsa-oss (if I remember correctly, skype does use OSS interface): alsa-tools-gui-1.0.23-11.1 alsa-devel-1.0.23-66.1 alsa-docs-1.0.23-66.1 alsa-oss-1.0.17-56.1 alsa-driver-doc-1.0.23.20100813-3.1 tsalsa-20080914-0.pm.1 pyalsa-1.0.22-6.1 alsa-plugins-1.0.23-30.1 alsa-driver-kmp-pae-1.0.23.20100813_2.6.27.48_0.2-3.1 alsa-firmware-1.0.23-8.2 alsa-1.0.23-66.1 alsa-utils-1.0.23-25.2 alsa-tools-1.0.23-11.1 Also I have not seen David's page before, but used these: http://old-en.opensuse.org/SDB:AudioTroubleshooting http://old-en.opensuse.org/SDB:Intel-HDA_sound_problems Also here are good documents, in case you'll need to dig deeper... (I managed to resolve my problem before that, so I've just look quickly through these). ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/tiwai/docs/ Regards, -- Mark Goldstein
On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 14:39, Mark Goldstein wrote:
Also I have not seen David's page before, but used these:
http://old-en.opensuse.org/SDB:AudioTroubleshooting http://old-en.opensuse.org/SDB:Intel-HDA_sound_problems
Those pages have been transferred to the new Wiki. Where possible, you should be linking to the new Wiki not the old one. http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Intel-HDA_sound_problems http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Audio_troubleshooting C. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sat, 2010-08-14 at 15:39 +0300, Mark Goldstein wrote:
Hi,
On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 3:40 AM, Mark Misulich <munguanaweza@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 2010-08-13 at 13:36 +0200, C wrote:
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 12:58, Mark Misulich wrote:
1. The laptop is a Toshiba Satelite U505-2950. ... 4. The sound card is a 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller.
.. I have been working through the stuff above. I have updated all my alsa packages to the very latest available, but that didn't fix the problem.
Working down through David Rankins troubleshooting wiki, I found that in configuring the sound system in kde, that if either "auto detect" or "advanced linux sound architecture" is selected there is no sound when the test button is pressed. If I select "oss" then there is sound when the test button is pressed. However there is still no sound in the web browsers in flash.
I can only say that in my case in KDE 3.5 I do see "advanced linux sound architecture". I'm attaching the output of alsa-info.sh on my machine. You can try to compare it with yours, but as I said before, my HW is different.
These are my versions (funny, I never noticed that I still have an old alsa-oss (if I remember correctly, skype does use OSS interface):
alsa-tools-gui-1.0.23-11.1 alsa-devel-1.0.23-66.1 alsa-docs-1.0.23-66.1 alsa-oss-1.0.17-56.1 alsa-driver-doc-1.0.23.20100813-3.1 tsalsa-20080914-0.pm.1 pyalsa-1.0.22-6.1 alsa-plugins-1.0.23-30.1 alsa-driver-kmp-pae-1.0.23.20100813_2.6.27.48_0.2-3.1 alsa-firmware-1.0.23-8.2 alsa-1.0.23-66.1 alsa-utils-1.0.23-25.2 alsa-tools-1.0.23-11.1
Also I have not seen David's page before, but used these:
http://old-en.opensuse.org/SDB:AudioTroubleshooting http://old-en.opensuse.org/SDB:Intel-HDA_sound_problems
Also here are good documents, in case you'll need to dig deeper... (I managed to resolve my problem before that, so I've just look quickly through these).
ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/tiwai/docs/
Regards,
Hi, I have worked through the two sound wikis, without any success. I compared the outputs of the alsa-info.sh files, yours and mine, and the biggest difference that I see is that you have a /etc/alsa.conf file, and I don't. Mark -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 4:48 AM, Mark Misulich <munguanaweza@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, 2010-08-14 at 15:39 +0300, Mark Goldstein wrote: ... I have worked through the two sound wikis, without any success. I compared the outputs of the alsa-info.sh files, yours and mine, and the biggest difference that I see is that you have a /etc/alsa.conf file, and I don't.
Hi Mark, I did not create this file myself. I guess it was created by alsaconf. Did you try it? You should run it from command line as root. It will kill applications that use audio device (so it is probably better to close them manually before starting alsaconf). alsaconf discovers different audio devices. I selected mine from the long list and after configuration was completed, I ran alsamixer and played with its controls until I've got what I want (in particular, I had to uncheck "smart 5:1"). Regards, -- Mark Goldstein -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sun, 2010-08-15 at 08:35 +0300, Mark Goldstein wrote:
On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 4:48 AM, Mark Misulich <munguanaweza@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, 2010-08-14 at 15:39 +0300, Mark Goldstein wrote: ... I have worked through the two sound wikis, without any success. I compared the outputs of the alsa-info.sh files, yours and mine, and the biggest difference that I see is that you have a /etc/alsa.conf file, and I don't.
Hi Mark,
I did not create this file myself. I guess it was created by alsaconf. Did you try it?
You should run it from command line as root. It will kill applications that use audio device (so it is probably better to close them manually before starting alsaconf).
alsaconf discovers different audio devices. I selected mine from the long list and after configuration was completed, I ran alsamixer and played with its controls until I've got what I want (in particular, I had to uncheck "smart 5:1").
Regards, -- Mark Goldstein
Hi, yes, I did run alsaconf as root from commandline and reported that in my original post. But it has been snipped out and forgotten. I have run it several times since the first time, and it isn't generating the config file for alsa. I have tried reinstalling pulseaudio a couple of times too, but it isn't fixing the sound problem either. Unless anyone else comes up with a better idea, I think that I will end up doing a reinstall of the operating system when I get home from this trip at the end of the week. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 12:16, Mark Misulich wrote:
yes, I did run alsaconf as root from commandline and reported that in my original post. But it has been snipped out and forgotten. I have run it several times since the first time, and it isn't generating the config file for alsa.
I have tried reinstalling pulseaudio a couple of times too, but it isn't fixing the sound problem either. Unless anyone else comes up with a better idea, I think that I will end up doing a reinstall of the operating system when I get home from this trip at the end of the week.
I'm fresh out of suggestions. :-( You've already done all I've ever had to do to get audio working. Your sound card isn't exactly exotic.. it's pretty common and well supported in 11.2 and 11.3... and should be supported in 11.1 with ALSA and other updates. I do distinctly remember fighting audio setup and Skype in 11.1.... especially surrounding PA... which I ended up blacklisting for that install. I have to say that PA does work a lot better now - in 11.3, and in other distros such as Ubuntu. Distros released around the same time as 11.1 all had issues with sound and Skype. Maybe it's time to revisit the WiFi issue in 11.3 :-) C. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sun, 2010-08-15 at 12:21 +0200, C wrote:
On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 12:16, Mark Misulich wrote:
yes, I did run alsaconf as root from commandline and reported that in my original post. But it has been snipped out and forgotten. I have run it several times since the first time, and it isn't generating the config file for alsa.
I have tried reinstalling pulseaudio a couple of times too, but it isn't fixing the sound problem either. Unless anyone else comes up with a better idea, I think that I will end up doing a reinstall of the operating system when I get home from this trip at the end of the week.
I'm fresh out of suggestions. :-( You've already done all I've ever had to do to get audio working. Your sound card isn't exactly exotic.. it's pretty common and well supported in 11.2 and 11.3... and should be supported in 11.1 with ALSA and other updates. I do distinctly remember fighting audio setup and Skype in 11.1.... especially surrounding PA... which I ended up blacklisting for that install.
I have to say that PA does work a lot better now - in 11.3, and in other distros such as Ubuntu. Distros released around the same time as 11.1 all had issues with sound and Skype.
Maybe it's time to revisit the WiFi issue in 11.3 :-)
C.
I am pretty sure the wifi driver won't compile properly with 11.3. I am having the same problem with it not working on another linux operating system on the same laptop that uses debian 4 and enlightenment. Nobody can get it to work on that debian. I emailed realtek about it and they didn't respond, I think because they don't have an answer. So its 11.1 or nothing. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sun, 2010-08-15 at 12:21 +0200, C wrote:
On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 12:16, Mark Misulich wrote:
yes, I did run alsaconf as root from commandline and reported that in my original post. But it has been snipped out and forgotten. I have run it several times since the first time, and it isn't generating the config file for alsa.
I have tried reinstalling pulseaudio a couple of times too, but it isn't fixing the sound problem either. Unless anyone else comes up with a better idea, I think that I will end up doing a reinstall of the operating system when I get home from this trip at the end of the week.
I'm fresh out of suggestions. :-( You've already done all I've ever had to do to get audio working. Your sound card isn't exactly exotic.. it's pretty common and well supported in 11.2 and 11.3... and should be supported in 11.1 with ALSA and other updates. I do distinctly remember fighting audio setup and Skype in 11.1.... especially surrounding PA... which I ended up blacklisting for that install.
How specifically did you blacklist pulseaudio during the operating system installation so that you ended up with the alsa sound system? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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