ATI 9800 All In Wonder Radeon video capture card -- working for anyone?
Hi, gang. I'm thinking of buying an ATI 9800 All In Wonder Radeon video capture card. Unfortunately ATI does not support Linux, and their customer service dept. could not provide any assurance that the card would work. Does anyone have this card running properly? Did it work out of the box or did you need to obtain additional drivers? If additional drivers were needed where did you find them? Any suggestions or assistance is greatly appreciated. This card is too expensive to buy without first knowing it's going to work. Thx. J ** I'm not as good as I was once, but I am as good once as I ever was.. "A nasty bit of rough" by David Feherty ** -- j nemo me impune lacessit wwEd it's just an afterthought; okay ? : The next dreadful thing to a battle lost is a battle won.
On Friday 02 January 2004 4:08 pm, jfweber@bellsouth.net wrote:
Hi, gang.
I'm thinking of buying an ATI 9800 All In Wonder Radeon video capture card. Unfortunately ATI does not support Linux, and their customer service dept. could not provide any assurance that the card would work.
Does anyone have this card running properly? Did it work out of the box or did you need to obtain additional drivers? If additional drivers were needed where did you find them?
Any suggestions or assistance is greatly appreciated. This card is too expensive to buy without first knowing it's going to work. Thx. J
** I'm not as good as I was once, but I am as good once as I ever was.. "A nasty bit of rough" by David Feherty **
-- j
Personal experience with ATI's AIW cards and Linux leads me to recommend separate components instead. Get a decent graphics card and a separate TV/FM/PVR type card. ATI isn't stepping up to Linux with support for the AIW. They have decent enough software for Windows OSes but nothing for Linux. They aren't helping much on the other projects such as gatos.sourceforge.net that are trying to produce drivers for the AIW portion. My 8500DV AIW doesn't have 3D support with the gatos drivers but I can watch TV, xine looks great with DVDs, etc. TV isn't as good under Linux as Windows. Haven't seen any contrary opinions to mine on this list ... yet!?!? Nor any other suggestions to get decent performance out of an AIW. Hey, its a new year, new surprises may occur... Check the list archives for TV card info. Same question was just asked about which stand-alone TV/PVR style card is best... check /. also. Stan
On Friday 02 January 2004 05:08 pm, jfweber@bellsouth.net wrote:
Hi, gang.
I'm thinking of buying an ATI 9800 All In Wonder Radeon video capture card. Unfortunately ATI does not support Linux, and their customer service dept. could not provide any assurance that the card would work.
Does anyone have this card running properly? Did it work out of the box or did you need to obtain additional drivers? If additional drivers were needed where did you find them?
Any suggestions or assistance is greatly appreciated. This card is too expensive to buy without first knowing it's going to work. Thx. J =============
Can't vouch for the AIW part, but believe you will be ok. I can although vouch for support. ATI provides drivers for Linux, but it seems some of those people you have talked with at ATI are a bit uninformed. I guess one could say they don't give full support, but ATI has been very good with Open Source, so far. SuSE 9.0 supports all the ATI 9000 series, in fact, the 9800 was supported under the XFree86 version included with 8.2 SuSE. I only have the 9200 Pro, but it was a painless install. Both 2D & 3D are supported and I believe the TV part is some standard chip on the 9800 card, so my strong feelings are it will work as well. The ATI module is already included as part of our kernel, so if you should need to install the ATI drivers, you are half way there already. :o) Decide what you want to use and don't mix drivers! Gatos makes some fine drivers, but as Stan pointed out, they do not have full support. My opinion is to try everything as is and if that proves unacceptable, try the ATI drivers. Lee -- --- KMail v1.5.4 --- SuSE Linux Pro v9.0 --- Registered Linux User #225206 On any other day, that might seem strange...
On Friday 02 January 2004 9:37 pm, BandiPat wrote:
On Friday 02 January 2004 05:08 pm, jfweber@bellsouth.net wrote:
Can't vouch for the AIW part, but believe you will be ok. I can although vouch for support. ATI provides drivers for Linux, but it seems some of those people you have talked with at ATI are a bit uninformed. I guess one could say they don't give full support, but ATI has been very good with Open Source, so far.
SuSE 9.0 supports all the ATI 9000 series, in fact, the 9800 was supported under the XFree86 version included with 8.2 SuSE. I only have the 9200 Pro, but it was a painless install. Both 2D & 3D are supported and I believe the TV part is some standard chip on the 9800 card, so my strong feelings are it will work as well. The ATI module is already included as part of our kernel, so if you should need to install the ATI drivers, you are half way there already. :o)
Decide what you want to use and don't mix drivers! Gatos makes some fine drivers, but as Stan pointed out, they do not have full support. My opinion is to try everything as is and if that proves unacceptable, try the ATI drivers.
Lee --
Lee makes good points about the non-AIW Linux drivers provided by ATI. They are decent and allow 3D and everything BUT the AIW portion of those cards. My 8500DV AIW works great with them but I lose all AIW functionality under Linux. The TV chip of the AIWs may or may not be a standard TV part (BT828 and others). It can't be accessed by YaST's TV Card detection & setup routines. xawtv, motv, kwintv/Qtvision, etc are all unable to detect it and/or use it. That is why I use the gatos drivers. They combine the graphics functionality with the AIW capabilities. My 8500DV AIW is one that doesn't have 3D support right now. It may in the future or I may have a dinosaur. Other ATI 9xxx series have 3D support. Check the sight: http://gatos.sourceforge.net. And this is my point about separate components for graphics and TV/FM/PVR. I hope ATI will come forward with full AIW Linux support for the AIW series. If they do it will probably only be for newest cards though. Stan
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