[opensuse] Zypper up negative repository
Yes, I know, I've asked before, SUBJ="How to exclude sites from Zypper?" I'm fed up with single digit KiB/s rates where I can't even download a new kernel overnight! Patrick has described here how to add lines to a /etc/zypp/repo/<file>.repo to give specific repository sites to use. baseurl=<LIST OF REPOSITORY SITES> That's all well and good IF AND ONLY IF you have a positive site to list. I seem only to run ones that are slow. Oh, they ping close enough, but download slow. I can see them using netstat to find what I'm being connected to. So I can learn what NOT to connect to, what the slow servers are, regardless of geolocation. Past correspondence on this subject ended up with:
The official procedure is to report that mirror to the admin at opensuse.
It's certainly worth a try, we have had issues with the geolocation, but we can't do much about lack of bandwidth or peering.
But how can I use something like Patrick's trick to say DON"T GO THERE as opposed to the "DO" ?? -- A: Yes. > Q: Are you sure? >> A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. >>> Q: Why is top posting frowned upon? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Anton Aylward composed on 2020-01-26 17:48 (UTC-0500):
But how can I use something like Patrick's trick to say DON"T GO THERE as opposed to the "DO" ??
/etc/hosts ??? Make it unreachable, and zypper should try the next host fed from mirrorbrain or listed in the repo file. -- Evolution as taught in public schools is religion, not science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2020-01-26 6:48 p.m., Felix Miata wrote:
Anton Aylward composed on 2020-01-26 17:48 (UTC-0500):
But how can I use something like Patrick's trick to say DON"T GO THERE as opposed to the "DO" ??
/etc/hosts ???
Make it unreachable, and zypper should try the next host fed from mirrorbrain or listed in the repo file.
With timeout, of course. The '/etc/hosts' sounds interesting. I use a variation on that with the dnsmaq to redirect spam to 127.0.0.1 Now does mirrorbrain (re-)direct by name or by address? -- A: Yes. > Q: Are you sure? >> A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. >>> Q: Why is top posting frowned upon? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
* Anton Aylward <opensuse@antonaylward.com> [01-26-20 19:15]:
On 2020-01-26 6:48 p.m., Felix Miata wrote:
Anton Aylward composed on 2020-01-26 17:48 (UTC-0500):
But how can I use something like Patrick's trick to say DON"T GO THERE as opposed to the "DO" ??
/etc/hosts ???
Make it unreachable, and zypper should try the next host fed from mirrorbrain or listed in the repo file.
With timeout, of course.
The '/etc/hosts' sounds interesting. I use a variation on that with the dnsmaq to redirect spam to 127.0.0.1 Now does mirrorbrain (re-)direct by name or by address?
what difference would it make and /etc/zypp/repos.d/xxxx.repo have named location -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Anton Aylward composed on 2020-01-26 19:11 (UTC-0500):
On 2020-01-26 6:48 p.m., Felix Miata wrote:
Anton Aylward composed on 2020-01-26 17:48 (UTC-0500):
But how can I use something like Patrick's trick to say DON"T GO THERE as opposed to the "DO" ??
/etc/hosts ???
Make it unreachable, and zypper should try the next host fed from mirrorbrain or listed in the repo file.
With timeout, of course.
The '/etc/hosts' sounds interesting. I use a variation on that with the dnsmaq to redirect spam to 127.0.0.1 Now does mirrorbrain (re-)direct by name or by address?
Mirrorbrain would only react in response to the non-response attempting to reach the mirror it directed to. You'd have to inventory the various mirrors with poor response, and put each in hosts redirected to 127.0.0.1 or 0.0.0.0: # /etc/hosts ... 0.0.0.0 mirror.clarkson.edu # 128.153.145.19 Gjovik, NO 0.0.0.0 mirror.us.leaseweb.net # 207.244.94.80 Long Beach CA 0.0.0.0 mirrors.edge.kernel.org # 147.75.197.195 St Paul, MN 0.0.0.0 provo-mirror.opensuse.org # 130.57.72.10 Eindhoven, NL 0.0.0.0 www.gtlib.gatech.edu # 128.61.111.9 Huntsville, AL ... I have not tested this. It's just a theory based upon various non-spam sites I include in my hosts file. Those 5 hostnames I pulled out of browser history, which means at some point mirrorbrain directed me there on account of some opensuse.org URL I clicked on. FWIW, leaseweb is where mirrorbrain usually redirects me when I want TW files, because gatech, which is where it redirects when I want Leap, doesn't mirror TW (or repositories). Both normally work well, so I wouldn't want them in my hosts. -- Evolution as taught in public schools is religion, not science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Anton Aylward wrote:
Yes, I know, I've asked before, SUBJ="How to exclude sites from Zypper?"
I'm fed up with single digit KiB/s rates where I can't even download a new kernel overnight!
We have four Canadian mirrors - Dalhouse Uni, Halifax Manitoba User Group Free Mirror project Uni Waterloo None of them carry repositories/ and the only mirror in North America is our own in Provo. I don't know what sort of uplink it has, downloading from here gives me <100kb/s
I can see them using netstat to find what I'm being connected to.
If you browse http://download.opensuse.org, the "Details" link will give you the mirror list: http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Kernel:/HEAD/standard/x86_64/kerne... -- Per Jessen, Zürich (4.9°C) member, openSUSE Heroes. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2020-01-27 3:38 a.m., Per Jessen wrote:
If you browse http://download.opensuse.org, the "Details" link will give you the mirror list:
I visit http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Kernel:/stable/standard/x86_64/ker... and try downloading from widehat knowing I have problems with gwdg. I'm not on my third attempt. The previous two aborted by themselves after about 66M of the 76M was downloaded. I don't know why. I'd launched them from the browser. I've now tried again using wget so I can restart the next time, but I'm only getting about 40% of the speed I got downloading with the browser. The estimate if for five hours Maybe I should have stuck with Telebit T2500 modems and spoofed PEP compression. Even the 14K, and you could achieve nearly twice that with compression in 'g' mode UUCP, is faster than the single digit rate I'm getting. -- A: Yes. > Q: Are you sure? >> A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. >>> Q: Why is top posting frowned upon? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Anton Aylward wrote:
On 2020-01-27 3:38 a.m., Per Jessen wrote:
If you browse http://download.opensuse.org, the "Details" link will give you the mirror list:
I visit
http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Kernel:/stable/standard/x86_64/ker...
and try downloading from widehat knowing I have problems with gwdg.
From your location, I would not have thought they are much different. gwdg has a much bigger pipe though.
Maybe I should have stuck with Telebit T2500 modems and spoofed PEP compression. Even the 14K, and you could achieve nearly twice that with compression in 'g' mode UUCP, is faster than the single digit rate I'm getting.
What are you getting from provo-mirror.o.o ? There is nothing we/I can do to help - repositories/ is huge and changes all the time, so most mirrors don't carry it. In addition, your connection to those few sites that do carry it isn't very good. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (7.8°C) member, openSUSE Heroes, mirror admin -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 27/1/20 7:38 pm, Per Jessen wrote:
Anton Aylward wrote:
Yes, I know, I've asked before, SUBJ="How to exclude sites from Zypper?"
I'm fed up with single digit KiB/s rates where I can't even download a new kernel overnight! We have four Canadian mirrors -
Dalhouse Uni, Halifax Manitoba User Group Free Mirror project Uni Waterloo
None of them carry repositories/ and the only mirror in North America is our own in Provo. I don't know what sort of uplink it has, downloading from here gives me <100kb/s
I can see them using netstat to find what I'm being connected to. If you browse http://download.opensuse.org, the "Details" link will give you the mirror list:
http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Kernel:/HEAD/standard/x86_64/kerne...
mirrors.opensuse.org lists all the mirrors available and what each can provide. BC -- All things are possible, except skiing through a revolving door. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 26/01/2020 23.48, Anton Aylward wrote: | Yes, I know, I've asked before, SUBJ="How to exclude sites from | Zypper?" | | I'm fed up with single digit KiB/s rates where I can't even | download a new kernel overnight! | | Patrick has described here how to add lines to a | /etc/zypp/repo/<file>.repo to give specific repository sites to | use. | | baseurl=<LIST OF REPOSITORY SITES> | | That's all well and good IF AND ONLY IF you have a positive site to | list. | | I seem only to run ones that are slow. Oh, they ping close enough, | but download slow. I can see them using netstat to find what I'm | being connected to. So I can learn what NOT to connect to, what the | slow servers are, regardless of geolocation. | | Past correspondence on this subject ended up with: | |>> The official procedure is to report that mirror to the admin |>> at opensuse. |> |> It's certainly worth a try, we have had issues with the |> geolocation, but we can't do much about lack of bandwidth or |> peering. | | | But how can I use something like Patrick's trick to say DON"T GO | THERE as opposed to the "DO" ?? Request feature in bugzilla. - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.1 x86_64 at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iF0EARECAB0WIQQZEb51mJKK1KpcU/W1MxgcbY1H1QUCXjAYeQAKCRC1MxgcbY1H 1TqhAJ4o5xXJtWmLq655XlQLKOd+bc58cQCeP6+JMOJnWXeggXFbsh4qplC5rr0= =Nbgg -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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