[opensuse] ipv6 in 12.3
resending, html denied me the first time. so my previous install of 12.1 started giving me difficulties and I decided to try an upgrade; I got all sorts of errors, decided to just reinstall with the iso. now I'm left with a (virtual) machine that I can't seem to update or even use half the things I expect. after install the 12/3 OS seems to insist on ipv6, or possibly more accurately refuse to just use ipv4. I start yast and check network settings, I have ipv6 turned off, the proc settings look like it should be off codex:/proc/sys/net/ipv6/conf # cat */disable_ipv6 1 1 1 1 1 and still when I run zypper, I get: codex:/proc/sys/net/ipv6/conf?#Bm9zypper up Retrieving repository 'openSUSE-12.3-Non-Oss' metadata ----------------------[\] Download (curl) error for 'http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/12.3/repo/non-oss/repodata/repomd....': Error code: Connection failed Error message: Failed to connect to 2001:67c:2178:8::13: Network is unreachable Abort, retry, ignore? [a/r/i/?] (a): ^Ccodex:/proc/sys/net/ipv6/conf #Bm logout add onto that the fact that runlevel 3 seems to no longer be an option (if you install it with that set as the default run level, the console never starts, gets messages about perl or something, looks like a yast first run is trying to run, if you start with 5, then change inittab, it ignores runlevel 3 goes to 5, anyway) zep@codex:~> ps -ef | grep X root 603 545 0 19:14 tty7 00:00:00 /usr/bin/Xorg -br :0 vt7 -nolisten tcp -auth /var/lib/xdm/authdir/authfiles/A:0-uqSHpb zep 1451 1411 0 19:17 pts/0 00:00:00 grep --color=auto X zep@codex:~> cat /etc/inittab id:3:initdefault: zep@codex:~> 12.3 is, in my opinion a _very_ disappointing release. does anyone have any solutions for these issues? I've looked through the archives and did some googling and came up dry. -- Even the Magic 8 ball has an opinion on email clients: Outlook not so good. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
В Sat, 30 Mar 2013 21:49:59 -0400 zGreenfelder <zgreenfelder@gmail.com> пишет:
resending, html denied me the first time.
so my previous install of 12.1 started giving me difficulties and I decided to try an upgrade; I got all sorts of errors, decided to just reinstall with the iso. now I'm left with a (virtual) machine that I can't seem to update or even use half the things I expect. after install the 12/3 OS seems to insist on ipv6, or possibly more accurately refuse to just use ipv4.
I start yast and check network settings, I have ipv6 turned off, the proc settings look like it should be off codex:/proc/sys/net/ipv6/conf # cat */disable_ipv6 1 1 1 1 1
And what says "ifconfig -a"?
and still when I run zypper, I get:
codex:/proc/sys/net/ipv6/conf?#Bm9zypper up Retrieving repository 'openSUSE-12.3-Non-Oss' metadata ----------------------[\] Download (curl) error for 'http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/12.3/repo/non-oss/repodata/repomd....': Error code: Connection failed Error message: Failed to connect to 2001:67c:2178:8::13: Network is unreachable
Abort, retry, ignore? [a/r/i/?] (a): ^Ccodex:/proc/sys/net/ipv6/conf #Bm logout
What is output of "dig download.opensuse.org any"?
add onto that the fact that runlevel 3 seems to no longer be an option
Works just fine here.
(if you install it with that set as the default run level, the console never starts, gets messages about perl or something, looks like a yast first run is trying to run, if you start with 5, then change inittab,
12.3 is using systemd by default which does not use inittab.
it ignores runlevel 3 goes to 5, anyway)
zep@codex:~> ps -ef | grep X root 603 545 0 19:14 tty7 00:00:00 /usr/bin/Xorg -br :0 vt7 -nolisten tcp -auth /var/lib/xdm/authdir/authfiles/A:0-uqSHpb zep 1451 1411 0 19:17 pts/0 00:00:00 grep --color=auto X zep@codex:~> cat /etc/inittab id:3:initdefault: zep@codex:~>
12.3 is, in my opinion a _very_ disappointing release.
does anyone have any solutions for these issues? I've looked through the archives and did some googling and came up dry. -- Even the Magic 8 ball has an opinion on email clients: Outlook not so good.
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zGreenfelder wrote:
so my previous install of 12.1 started giving me difficulties and I decided to try an upgrade; I got all sorts of errors, decided to just reinstall with the iso. now I'm left with a (virtual) machine that I can't seem to update or even use half the things I expect. after install the 12/3 OS seems to insist on ipv6, or possibly more accurately refuse to just use ipv4.
I start yast and check network settings, I have ipv6 turned off, the proc settings look like it should be off codex:/proc/sys/net/ipv6/conf # cat */disable_ipv6 1 1 1 1 1
and still when I run zypper, I get:
codex:/proc/sys/net/ipv6/conf?#Bm9zypper up Retrieving repository 'openSUSE-12.3-Non-Oss' metadata ----------------------[\] Download (curl) error for 'http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/12.3/repo/non-oss/repodata/repomd....': Error code: Connection failed Error message: Failed to connect to 2001:67c:2178:8::13: Network is unreachable
Is download.opensuse.org reachable over ipv4 ? The above is often the result when ipv4 is not available.
add onto that the fact that runlevel 3 seems to no longer be an option (if you install it with that set as the default run level, the console never starts, gets messages about perl or something, looks like a yast first run is trying to run, if you start with 5, then change inittab, it ignores runlevel 3 goes to 5, anyway)
runlevels have largely been replaced by systemd targets. (happened way back in 12.1). You'll want to familiarize yourself with the systemd start-up concept. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (3.1°C) http://www.dns24.ch/ - free DNS hosting, made in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 03/31/2013 07:55 AM, Per Jessen wrote:
runlevels have largely been replaced by systemd targets. (happened way back in 12.1). You'll want to familiarize yourself with the systemd start-up concept.
Yeah. but I wonder... whst exact component is still creating intitab ? thst needs to be fixed: rpm -qif /etc/inittab file /etc/inittab is not owned by any package Ouch. no package claims it as %ghost %config -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Sun 31 Mar 2013 03:16:25 PM CLST, Cristian Rodríguez wrote:
On 03/31/2013 07:55 AM, Per Jessen wrote:
runlevels have largely been replaced by systemd targets. (happened way back in 12.1). You'll want to familiarize yourself with the systemd start-up concept.
Yeah. but I wonder... whst exact component is still creating intitab ? thst needs to be fixed:
rpm -qif /etc/inittab file /etc/inittab is not owned by any package
Ouch. no package claims it as %ghost %config
Got it, it is yast core. /usr/share/YaST2/scrconf/etc_inittab.scr it will have to be removed the next release,,, -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
* Cristian Rodríguez <crrodriguez@opensuse.org> [03-31-13 14:21]:
On Sun 31 Mar 2013 03:16:25 PM CLST, Cristian Rodríguez wrote:
On 03/31/2013 07:55 AM, Per Jessen wrote:
runlevels have largely been replaced by systemd targets. (happened way back in 12.1). You'll want to familiarize yourself with the systemd start-up concept.
Yeah. but I wonder... whst exact component is still creating intitab ? thst needs to be fixed:
rpm -qif /etc/inittab file /etc/inittab is not owned by any package
Ouch. no package claims it as %ghost %config
Got it, it is yast core.
/usr/share/YaST2/scrconf/etc_inittab.scr
it will have to be removed the next release,,,
16:06 Crash: ~ > rpm -qf --last `locate inittab` yast2-2.23.23-1.4.1.x86_64 Mon 25 Mar 2013 07:32:05 AM EDT vim-data-7.3.831-1.1.1.noarch Wed 13 Mar 2013 03:29:51 PM EDT augeas-lense-tests-0.10.0-7.1.1.x86_64 Wed 13 Mar 2013 03:17:15 PM EDT augeas-lenses-0.10.0-7.1.1.x86_64 Wed 13 Mar 2013 03:17:07 PM EDT terminfo-5.9-26.1.1.x86_64 Wed 13 Mar 2013 03:15:44 PM EDT file /etc/inittab.rpmsave is not owned by any package file /etc/inittab.rpmnew is not owned by any package -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA HOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Patrick Shanahan said the following on 03/31/2013 04:10 PM:
16:06 Crash: ~ > rpm -qf --last `locate inittab` yast2-2.23.23-1.4.1.x86_64 Mon 25 Mar 2013 07:32:05 AM EDT vim-data-7.3.831-1.1.1.noarch Wed 13 Mar 2013 03:29:51 PM EDT augeas-lense-tests-0.10.0-7.1.1.x86_64 Wed 13 Mar 2013 03:17:15 PM EDT augeas-lenses-0.10.0-7.1.1.x86_64 Wed 13 Mar 2013 03:17:07 PM EDT terminfo-5.9-26.1.1.x86_64 Wed 13 Mar 2013 03:15:44 PM EDT file /etc/inittab.rpmsave is not owned by any package file /etc/inittab.rpmnew is not owned by any package
On a 32-but 12.2 system I get aaa_base-12.2-2.14.1 Mon 18 Feb 2013 03:01:17 PM EST Hmm, aaa bit more 'base'-ic -- Never tell people how to do things. Tell them what you want them to achieve, and they will surprise you with their ingenuity. --George Patton -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Cristian Rodríguez said the following on 03/31/2013 02:16 PM:
On 03/31/2013 07:55 AM, Per Jessen wrote:
runlevels have largely been replaced by systemd targets. (happened way back in 12.1). You'll want to familiarize yourself with the systemd start-up concept.
Yeah. but I wonder... whst exact component is still creating intitab ? thst needs to be fixed:
rpm -qif /etc/inittab file /etc/inittab is not owned by any package
Ouch. no package claims it as %ghost %config
In all probability it was left over from a previous install ... somehow. -- "The government who robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul." -- George Bernard Shaw -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Saturday, March 30, 2013 21:49:59 zGreenfelder wrote:
.xml': Error code: Connection failed Error message: Failed to connect to 2001:67c:2178:8::13: Network is unreachable
Abort, retry, ignore? [a/r/i/?] (a): ^Ccodex:/proc/sys/net/ipv6/conf #Bm logout
This is a long-standing problem and it has exactly nothing to do with 12.3. The problem is with the download.opensuse.org redirector that keeps returning IPv6 addresses even when only connected with IPv4. This is something that has been going on for some time. It is annoying, I agree, but it is not a problem with12.3 Anders -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Anders Johansson wrote:
On Saturday, March 30, 2013 21:49:59 zGreenfelder wrote:
.xml': Error code: Connection failed Error message: Failed to connect to 2001:67c:2178:8::13: Network is unreachable
Abort, retry, ignore? [a/r/i/?] (a): ^Ccodex:/proc/sys/net/ipv6/conf #Bm logout
This is a long-standing problem and it has exactly nothing to do with 12.3. The problem is with the download.opensuse.org redirector that keeps returning IPv6 addresses even when only connected with IPv4. This is something that has been going on for some time. It is annoying, I agree, but it is not a problem with12.3
The above has never caused a problem for me. I thought the IPv6 addresses were only tried when there is no IPv4 connectivity. That is why the error has an IPv6 address listed even when the user has no active IPV6 network. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (2.6°C) http://www.dns24.ch/ - free DNS hosting, made in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Sun, Mar 31, 2013 at 07:00:27PM +0200, Per Jessen wrote:
Anders Johansson wrote:
On Saturday, March 30, 2013 21:49:59 zGreenfelder wrote:
.xml': Error code: Connection failed Error message: Failed to connect to 2001:67c:2178:8::13: Network is unreachable
Abort, retry, ignore? [a/r/i/?] (a): ^Ccodex:/proc/sys/net/ipv6/conf #Bm logout
This is a long-standing problem and it has exactly nothing to do with 12.3. The problem is with the download.opensuse.org redirector that keeps returning IPv6 addresses even when only connected with IPv4. This is something that has been going on for some time. It is annoying, I agree, but it is not a problem with12.3
The above has never caused a problem for me. I thought the IPv6 addresses were only tried when there is no IPv4 connectivity. That is why the error has an IPv6 address listed even when the user has no active IPV6 network.
Correct. It will appear also if there is no IPv4 connection which is the case here probably. Ciao, Marcus -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Sun, Mar 31, 2013 at 07:00:27PM +0200, Per Jessen wrote:
Anders Johansson wrote:
On Saturday, March 30, 2013 21:49:59 zGreenfelder wrote:
.xml': Error code: Connection failed Error message: Failed to connect to 2001:67c:2178:8::13: Network is unreachable
Abort, retry, ignore? [a/r/i/?] (a): ^Ccodex:/proc/sys/net/ipv6/conf #Bm logout
This is a long-standing problem and it has exactly nothing to do with 12.3. The problem is with the download.opensuse.org redirector
On Sunday, March 31, 2013 19:57:54 Marcus Meissner wrote: that
keeps returning IPv6 addresses even when only connected with IPv4. This is something that has been going on for some time. It is annoying, I agree, but it is not a problem with12.3
The above has never caused a problem for me. I thought the IPv6 addresses were only tried when there is no IPv4 connectivity. That is why the error has an IPv6 address listed even when the user has no active IPV6 network.
Correct. It will appear also if there is no IPv4 connection which is the case here probably.
At which point will a machine without IPv6 configured send an AAAA query to its DNS server? If there is no IPv4 configured (and also no IPv6) the error will simply be that download.opensuse.org is an unknown name, since the DNS can't be reached. What is happening here is that a valid IPv4 connection is made to download.opensuse.org, zypper requests a mirror, and gets an IPv6 address in response. It has happened to me many times and I have never ever used IPv6 anywhere Anders -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Anders Johansson wrote:
On Sun, Mar 31, 2013 at 07:00:27PM +0200, Per Jessen wrote:
Anders Johansson wrote:
On Saturday, March 30, 2013 21:49:59 zGreenfelder wrote:
.xml': Error code: Connection failed Error message: Failed to connect to 2001:67c:2178:8::13: Network is unreachable
Abort, retry, ignore? [a/r/i/?] (a): ^Ccodex:/proc/sys/net/ipv6/conf #Bm logout
This is a long-standing problem and it has exactly nothing to do with 12.3. The problem is with the download.opensuse.org redirector
On Sunday, March 31, 2013 19:57:54 Marcus Meissner wrote: that
keeps returning IPv6 addresses even when only connected with IPv4. This is something that has been going on for some time. It is annoying, I agree, but it is not a problem with12.3
The above has never caused a problem for me. I thought the IPv6 addresses were only tried when there is no IPv4 connectivity. That is why the error has an IPv6 address listed even when the user has no active IPV6 network.
Correct. It will appear also if there is no IPv4 connection which is the case here probably.
At which point will a machine without IPv6 configured send an AAAA query to its DNS server?
(I think) pretty much whenever an app that supports both does a getaddrinfo().
If there is no IPv4 configured (and also no IPv6) the error will simply be that download.opensuse.org is an unknown name, since the DNS can't be reached.
"no IPv4 configured" != "no IPv4 connectivity". ("IPv4 incorrectly configured" often = "no IPv4 connectivity")
What is happening here is that a valid IPv4 connection is made to download.opensuse.org, zypper requests a mirror, and gets an IPv6 address in response. It has happened to me many times and I have never ever used IPv6 anywhere
It has never happened to me, except when no IPv4 connectivity was available. (I have not yet configured IPv6 connectivity). AFAIK, what happens (with mirrorbrain) is that zypper (or something) requests "download.opensuse.org/uuurrrllll". If the URL is mirrored, mirrorbrain does it's work and sends back a redirect - but not an address, a new URL. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (1.9°C) http://www.dns24.ch/ - free DNS hosting, made in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Sunday, March 31, 2013 19:00:27 Per Jessen wrote:
Anders Johansson wrote:
On Saturday, March 30, 2013 21:49:59 zGreenfelder wrote:
.xml': Error code: Connection failed Error message: Failed to connect to 2001:67c:2178:8::13: Network is unreachable
Abort, retry, ignore? [a/r/i/?] (a): ^Ccodex:/proc/sys/net/ipv6/conf #Bm logout
This is a long-standing problem and it has exactly nothing to do with 12.3. The problem is with the download.opensuse.org redirector that keeps returning IPv6 addresses even when only connected with IPv4. This is something that has been going on for some time. It is annoying, I agree, but it is not a problem with12.3
The above has never caused a problem for me. I thought the IPv6 addresses were only tried when there is no IPv4 connectivity. That is why the error has an IPv6 address listed even when the user has no active IPV6 network.
No, it has been a problem with download.opensuse.org for a long time, discussed at length on this list in the past. download.opensuse.org maintains a list of mirrors, one of which is handed off to the client on request. This is from time to time an IPv6 address, and no attempt is made to ensure that the client has IPv6 configured. It is more or less random Anders -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday, 2013-03-31 at 20:36 +0200, Anders Johansson wrote:
No, it has been a problem with download.opensuse.org for a long time, discussed at length on this list in the past. download.opensuse.org maintains a list of mirrors, one of which is handed off to the client on request. This is from time to time an IPv6 address, and no attempt is made to ensure that the client has IPv6 configured. It is more or less random
No, that is not correct. What is handed back to the client is a name, not an IPvX address. It is the client which asks its local system to convert that name to an IP address, and some times that address is an IPv6 one. It the local zypper/yast which should trim out the IPv6 addresses it gets, and ask for another mirror if there is none. It is of course possible that the name handed back by the redirector happens to be a mirror that only has IPv6 addresses. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. (from 12.1 x86_64 "Asparagus" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.18 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlFYrowACgkQtTMYHG2NR9V8FgCgiYoJRyaowXN8Hg6er5E/gULz 3yAAn0RASyxdlbsoE5Fqppogu/QoqTY1 =8DQt -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-----Original Message----- From: Per Jessen <per@computer.org> The above has never caused a problem for me. I thought the IPv6 addresses were only tried when there is no IPv4 connectivity. <snip> -----Original Message----- I certainly hope not so. Client should only get mirror-names back, and if the client support V6, it should first try V6, and if the site does not respond to its v6 address, or the client has no V6 capabilities, then it should try V4. Only possible reason for concern, is if a mirror should only support V6, and the client only V4. hw -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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