Has anyone else had a problem with X getting confused between the /etc/X11/xorg.conf and /etc/X11/XF86Config? I just installed a new NVidia GeForce 6800 GT. The setup was an adventure to say the least. I kept having problems where X would start with one configuration on boot, and another when it was restarted. I finally deleted the /etc/X11/xorg.conf and changed the /etc/X11/XF86Config by hand, to put the correct modeline at the top of the list, and give it the correct DisplaySize values. Anyone else had these problems? -- Regards, Steven
On Thursday 26 May 2005 22:50, Steven T. Hatton wrote:
Has anyone else had a problem with X getting confused between the /etc/X11/xorg.conf and /etc/X11/XF86Config? I just installed a new NVidia GeForce 6800 GT. The setup was an adventure to say the least. I kept having problems where X would start with one configuration on boot, and another when it was restarted. I finally deleted the /etc/X11/xorg.conf and changed the /etc/X11/XF86Config by hand, to put the correct modeline at the top of the list, and give it the correct DisplaySize values.
Anyone else had these problems? -- Steven,
Yes and no. This started to happen when I changed my monitor. On bootup some times I get a screen fom the bios that says I did not pass a parameter. The booting screen then boots using much larger fonts than normally. Once booted it appears ??? to be normal. Not sure but I seem to be getting minor different graphical changes. I do know that the xorg.conf file has not been touched with the monitor change.(Still shows the old monitor and dated before the change) The XF86Conf. file shows the new settings. The nvidia card settings are also different (0X0342 vs. GEForce 5700) I have been told that Yast is supposed to write to the xorg file with a link to XF86Conf. This apparently is not happening. No idea which config is being called; must be XF86. So maybe the problem is the same?? Don't know. Seems likely, and don't know what to do about it. Bob S. BTW 9.2 and KDE 3.4
On Friday 27 May 2005 00:17, B. Stia wrote:
On Thursday 26 May 2005 22:50, Steven T. Hatton wrote:
Has anyone else had a problem with X getting confused between the /etc/X11/xorg.conf and /etc/X11/XF86Config? I just installed a new NVidia GeForce 6800 GT. The setup was an adventure to say the least. I kept having problems where X would start with one configuration on boot, and another when it was restarted. I finally deleted the /etc/X11/xorg.conf and changed the /etc/X11/XF86Config by hand, to put the correct modeline at the top of the list, and give it the correct DisplaySize values.
Anyone else had these problems? --
Steven,
Yes and no. This started to happen when I changed my monitor. On bootup some times I get a screen fom the bios that says I did not pass a parameter. The booting screen then boots using much larger fonts than normally. Once booted it appears ??? to be normal. Not sure but I seem to be getting minor different graphical changes.
I do know that the xorg.conf file has not been touched with the monitor change.(Still shows the old monitor and dated before the change) The XF86Conf. file shows the new settings. The nvidia card settings are also different (0X0342 vs. GEForce 5700) I have been told that Yast is supposed to write to the xorg file with a link to XF86Conf. This apparently is not happening. No idea which config is being called; must be XF86.
So maybe the problem is the same?? Don't know. Seems likely, and don't know what to do about it.
Bob S.
BTW 9.2 and KDE 3.4
As root, mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf xorg.conf-$(date +%F-%H-%M-%S). don't keep it in /root as xorg.conf. I can't say what xorg with do with that, but XFree86 will use the XF86Config in the current directory. That can be quite deceptive. I would suggest also moving the XF86Config out of the way, and rerunning SaX2. I don't know if it makes a difference whether it's run through YaST or from the commandline. After you're finished setting it up, verify what's actually in /etc/X11. I had lots of strange things happening while I was trying to untangle this mess. It may be worth it to go into the runlevel tool and set the system to boot into runlevel 3 before you start. It may be worth rebooting before your run SaX2. -- Regards, Steven
On Friday 27 May 2005 05:30, Steven T. Hatton wrote:
On Friday 27 May 2005 00:17, B. Stia wrote:
On Thursday 26 May 2005 22:50, Steven T. Hatton wrote:
Has anyone else had a problem with X getting confused between the /etc/X11/xorg.conf and /etc/X11/XF86Config? I just installed a new NVidia GeForce 6800 GT. The setup was an adventure to say the least. I kept having problems where X would start with one configuration on boot, and another when it was restarted. I finally deleted the /etc/X11/xorg.conf and changed the /etc/X11/XF86Config by hand, to put the correct modeline at the top of the list, and give it the correct DisplaySize values.
Anyone else had these problems? --
Steven,
Yes and no. This started to happen when I changed my monitor. On bootup some times I get a screen fom the bios that says I did not pass a parameter. The booting screen then boots using much larger fonts than normally. Once booted it appears ??? to be normal. Not sure but I seem to be getting minor different graphical changes.
I do know that the xorg.conf file has not been touched with the monitor change.(Still shows the old monitor and dated before the change) The XF86Conf. file shows the new settings. The nvidia card settings are also different (0X0342 vs. GEForce 5700) I have been told that Yast is supposed to write to the xorg file with a link to XF86Conf. This apparently is not happening. No idea which config is being called; must be XF86.
So maybe the problem is the same?? Don't know. Seems likely, and don't know what to do about it.
Bob S.
BTW 9.2 and KDE 3.4
As root, mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf xorg.conf-$(date +%F-%H-%M-%S). don't keep it in /root as xorg.conf. I can't say what xorg with do with that, but XFree86 will use the XF86Config in the current directory. That can be quite deceptive. I would suggest also moving the XF86Config out of the way, and rerunning SaX2. I don't know if it makes a difference whether it's run through YaST or from the commandline. After you're finished setting it up, verify what's actually in /etc/X11. I had lots of strange things happening while I was trying to untangle this mess. It may be worth it to go into the runlevel tool and set the system to boot into runlevel 3 before you start. It may be worth rebooting before your run SaX2. -- Regards, Steven
Which version it uses ie XF86Config or xorg.conf depends on the version of X you are running if you are running the older version the one with the NON GPL friendly license to it then it uses XF86Config . the newer and friendly version uses xorg.conf and XF86 Config should be a link to xorg.conf -- If Bill Gates had gotten LAID at High School do YOU think there would be a Microsoft ? Of course NOT ! You gotta spend a lot of time at your school Locker stuffing underware up your ass to think , I am going to take on the worlds Computer Industry -------:heard on Cyber Radio.:-------
On Friday 27 May 2005 02:37, Peter Nikolic wrote:
On Friday 27 May 2005 05:30, Steven T. Hatton wrote:
On Friday 27 May 2005 00:17, B. Stia wrote:
On Thursday 26 May 2005 22:50, Steven T. Hatton wrote:
Has anyone else had a problem with X getting confused between the /etc/X11/xorg.conf and /etc/X11/XF86Config? I just installed a new NVidia GeForce 6800 GT. The setup was an adventure to say the least. I kept having problems where X would start with one configuration on boot, and another when it was restarted. I finally deleted the /etc/X11/xorg.conf and changed the /etc/X11/XF86Config by hand, to put the correct modeline at the top of the list, and give it the correct DisplaySize values.
Anyone else had these problems? --
Steven,
Yes and no. This started to happen when I changed my monitor. On bootup some times I get a screen fom the bios that says I did not pass a parameter. The booting screen then boots using much larger fonts than normally. Once booted it appears ??? to be normal. Not sure but I seem to be getting minor different graphical changes.
I do know that the xorg.conf file has not been touched with the monitor change.(Still shows the old monitor and dated before the change) The XF86Conf. file shows the new settings. The nvidia card settings are also different (0X0342 vs. GEForce 5700) I have been told that Yast is supposed to write to the xorg file with a link to XF86Conf. This apparently is not happening. No idea which config is being called; must be XF86.
So maybe the problem is the same?? Don't know. Seems likely, and don't know what to do about it.
Bob S.
BTW 9.2 and KDE 3.4
As root, mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf xorg.conf-$(date +%F-%H-%M-%S). don't keep it in /root as xorg.conf. I can't say what xorg with do with that, but XFree86 will use the XF86Config in the current directory. That can be quite deceptive. I would suggest also moving the XF86Config out of the way, and rerunning SaX2. I don't know if it makes a difference whether it's run through YaST or from the commandline. After you're finished setting it up, verify what's actually in /etc/X11. I had lots of strange things happening while I was trying to untangle this mess. It may be worth it to go into the runlevel tool and set the system to boot into runlevel 3 before you start. It may be worth rebooting before your run SaX2. -- Regards, Steven
Which version it uses ie XF86Config or xorg.conf depends on the version of X you are running if you are running the older version the one with the NON GPL friendly license to it then it uses XF86Config . the newer and friendly version uses xorg.conf and XF86 Config should be a link to xorg.conf
Yes, I did not mention the part about there originally being a symlink. But SaX2 did not maintain that symlink. This is my current setup: # note there is no xorg.conf find /etc/X11 -type f -maxdepth 1 /etc/X11/qtrc /etc/X11/Xresources /etc/X11/XF86Config /etc/X11/qt_gtk_fnt2fntrc /etc/X11/XF86Config.YaST2save /etc/X11/XF86Config.saxsave /etc/X11/Xmodmap.remote /etc/X11/qtrc.rpmsave /etc/X11/XF86Config-2005-05-26-20-30-19 /etc/X11/qt_plugins_3.3rc /etc/X11/.qt_plugins_3.1rc.lock /etc/X11/qtrc-2004-08-27-02-40-19 /etc/X11/Xmodmap /etc/X11/CardModules.addon /etc/X11/.qtrc.lock /etc/X11/.qt_plugins_3.3rc.lock /etc/X11/Xresources.rpmsave /etc/X11/.qt_plugins_3.2rc.lock /etc/X11/kstylerc /etc/X11/.kstylerc.lock rpm -qa | grep xorg xorg-x11-6.8.2-35.1 xorg-x11-fonts-syriac-6.8.2-35.1 xorg-x11-fonts-75dpi-6.8.2-35.1 xorg-x11-Xnest-6.8.2-35.1 xorg-x11-server-glx-6.8.2-35.1 xorg-x11-fonts-100dpi-6.8.2-35.1 xorg-x11-devel-6.8.2-35.1 xorg-x11-Xvnc-6.8.2-35.1 xorg-x11-man-6.8.2-35.1 xorg-x11-Mesa-devel-6.8.2-35.1 xorg-x11-doc-6.8.2-35.1 xorg-x11-server-6.8.2-35.1 xorg-x11-Mesa-6.8.2-35.1 xorg-x11-Xprt-6.8.2-35.1 xorg-x11-fonts-scalable-6.8.2-35.1 xorg-x11-Xvfb-6.8.2-35.1 xorg-x11-Mesa-devel-static-6.8.2-35.1 xorg-x11-libs-6.8.2-35.1 xorg-x11-fonts-cyrillic-6.8.2-35.1 xorg-x11-driver-options-6.8.2-35.1 Clearly, xorg can and does use either the XF86Config or the xorg.conf. It gets mixed up when both are in /etc/X11. -- Regards, Steven
On Friday 27 May 2005 08:38, Steven T. Hatton wrote:
On Friday 27 May 2005 02:37, Peter Nikolic wrote:
On Friday 27 May 2005 05:30, Steven T. Hatton wrote:
On Friday 27 May 2005 00:17, B. Stia wrote:
On Thursday 26 May 2005 22:50, Steven T. Hatton wrote:
Has anyone else had a problem with X getting confused between the /etc/X11/xorg.conf and /etc/X11/XF86Config? I just installed a new NVidia GeForce 6800 GT. The setup was an adventure to say the least. I kept having problems where X would start with one configuration on boot, and another when it was restarted. I finally deleted the /etc/X11/xorg.conf and changed the /etc/X11/XF86Config by hand, to put the correct modeline at the top of the list, and give it the correct DisplaySize values.
Anyone else had these problems? --
Steven,
Yes and no. This started to happen when I changed my monitor. On bootup some times I get a screen fom the bios that says I did not pass a parameter. The booting screen then boots using much larger fonts than normally. Once booted it appears ??? to be normal. Not sure but I seem to be getting minor different graphical changes.
I do know that the xorg.conf file has not been touched with the monitor change.(Still shows the old monitor and dated before the change) The XF86Conf. file shows the new settings. The nvidia card settings are also different (0X0342 vs. GEForce 5700) I have been told that Yast is supposed to write to the xorg file with a link to XF86Conf. This apparently is not happening. No idea which config is being called; must be XF86.
So maybe the problem is the same?? Don't know. Seems likely, and don't know what to do about it.
Bob S.
BTW 9.2 and KDE 3.4
As root, mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf xorg.conf-$(date +%F-%H-%M-%S). don't keep it in /root as xorg.conf. I can't say what xorg with do with that, but XFree86 will use the XF86Config in the current directory. That can be quite deceptive. I would suggest also moving the XF86Config out of the way, and rerunning SaX2. I don't know if it makes a difference whether it's run through YaST or from the commandline. After you're finished setting it up, verify what's actually in /etc/X11. I had lots of strange things happening while I was trying to untangle this mess. It may be worth it to go into the runlevel tool and set the system to boot into runlevel 3 before you start. It may be worth rebooting before your run SaX2. -- Regards, Steven
Which version it uses ie XF86Config or xorg.conf depends on the version of X you are running if you are running the older version the one with the NON GPL friendly license to it then it uses XF86Config . the newer and friendly version uses xorg.conf and XF86 Config should be a link to xorg.conf
Yes, I did not mention the part about there originally being a symlink. But SaX2 did not maintain that symlink. This is my current setup: # note there is no xorg.conf
find /etc/X11 -type f -maxdepth 1 /etc/X11/qtrc /etc/X11/Xresources /etc/X11/XF86Config /etc/X11/qt_gtk_fnt2fntrc /etc/X11/XF86Config.YaST2save /etc/X11/XF86Config.saxsave /etc/X11/Xmodmap.remote /etc/X11/qtrc.rpmsave /etc/X11/XF86Config-2005-05-26-20-30-19 /etc/X11/qt_plugins_3.3rc /etc/X11/.qt_plugins_3.1rc.lock /etc/X11/qtrc-2004-08-27-02-40-19 /etc/X11/Xmodmap /etc/X11/CardModules.addon /etc/X11/.qtrc.lock /etc/X11/.qt_plugins_3.3rc.lock /etc/X11/Xresources.rpmsave /etc/X11/.qt_plugins_3.2rc.lock /etc/X11/kstylerc /etc/X11/.kstylerc.lock
rpm -qa | grep xorg xorg-x11-6.8.2-35.1 xorg-x11-fonts-syriac-6.8.2-35.1 xorg-x11-fonts-75dpi-6.8.2-35.1 xorg-x11-Xnest-6.8.2-35.1 xorg-x11-server-glx-6.8.2-35.1 xorg-x11-fonts-100dpi-6.8.2-35.1 xorg-x11-devel-6.8.2-35.1 xorg-x11-Xvnc-6.8.2-35.1 xorg-x11-man-6.8.2-35.1 xorg-x11-Mesa-devel-6.8.2-35.1 xorg-x11-doc-6.8.2-35.1 xorg-x11-server-6.8.2-35.1 xorg-x11-Mesa-6.8.2-35.1 xorg-x11-Xprt-6.8.2-35.1 xorg-x11-fonts-scalable-6.8.2-35.1 xorg-x11-Xvfb-6.8.2-35.1 xorg-x11-Mesa-devel-static-6.8.2-35.1 xorg-x11-libs-6.8.2-35.1 xorg-x11-fonts-cyrillic-6.8.2-35.1 xorg-x11-driver-options-6.8.2-35.1
Clearly, xorg can and does use either the XF86Config or the xorg.conf. It gets mixed up when both are in /etc/X11.
This is because XF86Config should be an link to xorg.conf and i would seem sax2 is at fault i do not have any problems like this could it be because i do not use or trust sax2 it used to frell things up a couple of years ago since then it just gets ignored , I have an working xorg.conf i keep a copy of in another location and work from that crafting by hand needed changes but if you trust sax2 to do the job then you have to accept that it also frells up your system .. Cheers Pete . -- If Bill Gates had gotten LAID at High School do YOU think there would be a Microsoft ? Of course NOT ! You gotta spend a lot of time at your school Locker stuffing underware up your ass to think , I am going to take on the worlds Computer Industry -------:heard on Cyber Radio.:-------
On Friday 27 May 2005 06:51, Peter Nikolic wrote:
This is because XF86Config should be an link to xorg.conf and i would seem sax2 is at fault i do not have any problems like this could it be because i do not use or trust sax2 it used to frell things up a couple of years ago since then it just gets ignored , I have an working xorg.conf i keep a copy of in another location and work from that crafting by hand needed changes but if you trust sax2 to do the job then you have to accept that it also frells up your system ..
Cheers Pete .
I trust you filed a bug report on the problems you encountered to SuSE. I had been doing exactly what you described for years with previous XF68Config setups. That doesn't work very well with brand new hardware. -- Regards, Steven
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