[opensuse] Re: Linux on a single computer
Le 15/12/2009 14:52, Anton Aylward a écrit :
When I buy a laptop I've found that its advisable to keep the Windows software on it in a partition that's shrunk as small as practical. Why? Because when you call support they probably won't talk to you unless they can step you through some basic diagnostics using Windows.
same here jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://valerie.dodin.org http://news.opensuse.org/2009/04/13/people-of-opensuse-jean-daniel-dodin/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
jdd-gmane wrote:
Le 15/12/2009 14:52, Anton Aylward a écrit :
When I buy a laptop I've found that its advisable to keep the Windows software on it in a partition that's shrunk as small as practical. Why? Because when you call support they probably won't talk to you unless they can step you through some basic diagnostics using Windows.
same here jdd
That's what I did too. My ThinkPad is the only computer I own that has Windows on it. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
jdd-gmane wrote:
Le 15/12/2009 14:52, Anton Aylward a écrit :
When I buy a laptop I've found that its advisable to keep the Windows software on it in a partition that's shrunk as small as practical. Why? Because when you call support they probably won't talk to you unless they can step you through some basic diagnostics using Windows.
same here jdd
Hi, it is a good idea to keep windows on your laptop along with opensuse if you use it while traveling, as I do. There are a few places which have
On Tue, 2009-12-15 at 11:13 -0500, James Knott wrote: old wireless routers which don't provide for proper window scaling, and you may not be able to connect wirelessly with linux until you gain some experience using your linux laptop and can apply the correct bash commands to fix the problem. You will be able to connect with Windows in this circumstance. In addition, I recently stayed at a hotel in China where I could not connect with linux, no matter what I did. Their ethernet would only allow me to connect with Windows,and I was not able to figure out why in the time that I had available during my stay there. The other reason is that if you dork up your linux system somehow, you have a second operating system to use until you get linux straightened out. Just think of it as a spare tire to use if you have a flat out on the road somewhere. Mark -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 16 December 2009 13:40:59 Mark Misulich wrote:
On Tue, 2009-12-15 at 11:13 -0500, James Knott wrote:
jdd-gmane wrote:
Le 15/12/2009 14:52, Anton Aylward a écrit :
When I buy a laptop I've found that its advisable to keep the Windows software on it in a partition that's shrunk as small as practical. Why? Because when you call support they probably won't talk to you unless they can step you through some basic diagnostics using Windows.
same here jdd
Hi, it is a good idea to keep windows on your laptop along with opensuse if you use it while traveling, as I do. There are a few places which have old wireless routers which don't provide for proper window scaling, and you may not be able to connect wirelessly with linux until you gain some experience using your linux laptop and can apply the correct bash commands to fix the problem. You will be able to connect with Windows in this circumstance.
Mark
Unfortunately I don't have Windows to fall back on. I've only ever used computers at work and they are old. I don't think any recent version of windows would run on them anyway. I've never had a laptop either. I planning a personal installation this week. But it will be on an old desktop Dell. Lynn -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
jdd-gmane wrote:
Le 15/12/2009 14:52, Anton Aylward a écrit :
When I buy a laptop I've found that its advisable to keep the Windows software on it in a partition that's shrunk as small as practical. Why? Because when you call support they probably won't talk to you unless they can step you through some basic diagnostics using Windows.
same here jdd
If you've got a hp, be careful not to say the word "linux". I made that mistake, and they immediately stopped talking to me, saying they couldn't help unless my laptop was in its "original configuration". John Perry -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 16 December 2009 16:28:02 John E. Perry wrote:
jdd-gmane wrote:
Le 15/12/2009 14:52, Anton Aylward a écrit :
When I buy a laptop I've found that its advisable to keep the Windows software on it in a partition that's shrunk as small as practical. Why? Because when you call support they probably won't talk to you unless they can step you through some basic diagnostics using Windows.
same here jdd
If you've got a hp, be careful not to say the word "linux". I made that mistake, and they immediately stopped talking to me, saying they couldn't help unless my laptop was in its "original configuration".
John Perry
Thanks for the warning. This is looking worse post by post. I don't think anyone will help you one to one with Linux. In my experience the only help you can get is on lists like this or on a sort of of Ubuntu type help level on the opensuse forum. Lx -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 17:47, lynn <lynn@steve-ss.com> wrote:
Thanks for the warning. This is looking worse post by post. I don't think anyone will help you one to one with Linux. In my experience the only help you can get is on lists like this or on a sort of of Ubuntu type help level on the opensuse forum.
Depends :-) Some IT departments are quite helpful. I've found it depends on where you are and who you talk to. I've had excellent success with Linux and helpdesks in the Netherlands... and I had problems with my ISP here in Germany... once I told them I was using Linux, they provided me the info I needed that was Linux specific (issues with DNS). I've also ran into the places that refuse to acknowledge Linux in any way shape or form. Basically... don't be discouraged... the tips here are simply ways we've all found to make working with Linux at home a bit easier over the years. C -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 12/16/2009 11:47 AM, lynn pecked at the keyboard and wrote:
On Wednesday 16 December 2009 16:28:02 John E. Perry wrote:
jdd-gmane wrote:
Le 15/12/2009 14:52, Anton Aylward a écrit :
When I buy a laptop I've found that its advisable to keep the Windows software on it in a partition that's shrunk as small as practical. Why? Because when you call support they probably won't talk to you unless they can step you through some basic diagnostics using Windows.
same here jdd
If you've got a hp, be careful not to say the word "linux". I made that mistake, and they immediately stopped talking to me, saying they couldn't help unless my laptop was in its "original configuration".
John Perry
Thanks for the warning. This is looking worse post by post. I don't think anyone will help you one to one with Linux. In my experience the only help you can get is on lists like this or on a sort of of Ubuntu type help level on the opensuse forum. Lx
And what is wrong with that? :-) The help is better and faster and _more_ actuate to boot. That's why most of us lurk here to provide what help we can and to learn (or re-learn :-) ) as well. Give linux a try at home, what do you have to loose? -- Ken Schneider SuSe since Version 5.2, June 1998 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 16 December 2009 18:17:05 Ken Schneider - openSUSE wrote:
On 12/16/2009 11:47 AM, lynn pecked at the keyboard and wrote:
On Wednesday 16 December 2009 16:28:02 John E. Perry wrote:
jdd-gmane wrote:
Le 15/12/2009 14:52, Anton Aylward a écrit :
When I buy a laptop I've found that its advisable to keep the Windows software on it in a partition that's shrunk as small as practical. Why? Because when you call support they probably won't talk to you unless they can step you through some basic diagnostics using Windows.
same here jdd
If you've got a hp, be careful not to say the word "linux". I made that mistake, and they immediately stopped talking to me, saying they couldn't help unless my laptop was in its "original configuration".
John Perry
Thanks for the warning. This is looking worse post by post. I don't think anyone will help you one to one with Linux. In my experience the only help you can get is on lists like this or on a sort of of Ubuntu type help level on the opensuse forum. Lx
And what is wrong with that? :-) The help is better and faster and _more_ actuate to boot. That's why most of us lurk here to provide what help we can and to learn (or re-learn :-) ) as well. Give linux a try at home, what do you have to loose?
It doesn't have this list's expert knowledge on networks. L x -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 12/16/2009 01:49 PM, lynn pecked at the keyboard and wrote:
On Wednesday 16 December 2009 18:17:05 Ken Schneider - openSUSE wrote:
On 12/16/2009 11:47 AM, lynn pecked at the keyboard and wrote:
On Wednesday 16 December 2009 16:28:02 John E. Perry wrote:
jdd-gmane wrote:
Le 15/12/2009 14:52, Anton Aylward a écrit :
When I buy a laptop I've found that its advisable to keep the Windows software on it in a partition that's shrunk as small as practical. Why? Because when you call support they probably won't talk to you unless they can step you through some basic diagnostics using Windows.
same here jdd
If you've got a hp, be careful not to say the word "linux". I made that mistake, and they immediately stopped talking to me, saying they couldn't help unless my laptop was in its "original configuration".
John Perry
Thanks for the warning. This is looking worse post by post. I don't think anyone will help you one to one with Linux. In my experience the only help you can get is on lists like this or on a sort of of Ubuntu type help level on the opensuse forum. Lx
And what is wrong with that? :-) The help is better and faster and _more_ actuate to boot. That's why most of us lurk here to provide what help we can and to learn (or re-learn :-) ) as well. Give linux a try at home, what do you have to loose?
It doesn't have this list's expert knowledge on networks. L x
Sorry, I was referring to the help on the linux lists this list in particular. -- Ken Schneider SuSe since Version 5.2, June 1998 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
lynn wrote:
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If you've got a hp, be careful not to say the word "linux". I made that mistake, and they immediately stopped talking to me, saying they couldn't help unless my laptop was in its "original configuration".
John Perry
Thanks for the warning. This is looking worse post by post. I don't think anyone will help you one to one with Linux. In my experience the only help you can get is on lists like this or on a sort of of Ubuntu type help level on the opensuse forum.
Well, my experience wasn't with asking for software help -- any mailing list will give better advice than hp's bottom-feeder script readers in India. I have two hardware failures (power button and internal speakers), and hp had sent me email telling of an extended warranty on my laptop series. The power button was clearly not a software issue, and the speakers were dead even when I booted into xp pro. But as soon as I let the L-word slip, they cut me off and said they wouldn't talk to me until my computer was in its "original configuration". After I bought a new hard drive and put xp pro alone on it, they then revealed that the extended warranty didn't include the power switch or speakers. Need I say I won't be buying another hp computer? :-( jp -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
John E. Perry said the following on 12/17/2009 01:57 AM:
After I bought a new hard drive and put xp pro alone on it, they then revealed that the extended warranty didn't include the power switch or speakers.
Like your earthquake insurance isn't valid in California ... They tried telling me that batteries weren't covered, but I quoted their own "limited warranty" to them. Two years on most of the hardware, one year on batteries. It was within the first year. Mind you, the replacement batteries gave up within another year, ore than one year since purchase that was. Funny: the 'non-approved' third party batteries that they told me would void my warranty not only lived longer but powered the laptop for a couple of hours longer. *sigh* if only there was a way to cherry-pick components and build your own laptop much the way I put together an (under-the-)Desktop machine. -- The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts. --Bertrand Russell -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thu, 2009-12-17 at 01:57 -0500, John E. Perry wrote:
After I bought a new hard drive and put xp pro alone on it, they then revealed that the extended warranty didn't include the power switch or speakers.
Need I say I won't be buying another hp computer? :-(
I have an old HP Kayak PII hand me down which works just fine. Power switches and built in speakers are usually available at local hardware stores and easy to replace. -- _______ _______ _______ __ / ____\ \ / / ____|_ _\ \ / / | | \ \ /\ / / (___ | | \ \ / / | | \ \/ \/ / \___ \ | | \ \/ / | |____ \ /\ / ____) |_| |_ \ / \_____| \/ \/ |_____/|_____| \/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Carl Spitzer wrote:
On Thu, 2009-12-17 at 01:57 -0500, John E. Perry wrote:
After I bought a new hard drive and put xp pro alone on it, they then revealed that the extended warranty didn't include the power switch or speakers.
Need I say I won't be buying another hp computer? :-(
I have an old HP Kayak PII hand me down which works just fine. Power switches and built in speakers are usually available at local hardware stores and easy to replace.
Power switches from hardware stores won't come close to fitting into the tiny hole in the top plate of my dv6000 laptop. I might buy an hp replacement if they make it, except that they put the service manual on their web site, which told me how to work around the power switch failure. And, of course, if the problem is in the electronic circuitry around the switch... The speakers are specially built for my laptop, and will not be at any hardware store, or even at a local electronics store. I work around them by using external speakers plugged into the fully functional external socket. And, of course, if the problem is in the electronic circuitry feeding the speakers... In any case, what really ticked me off was having to buy a new hard drive and put xp pro onto it before they would even tell me these components weren't included in the extended warranty. Along with the statement (AFTER the hard drive replacement) that there would be a minimum service charge of $200 before they would even start troubleshooting! jp -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
John E. Perry said the following on 12/16/2009 10:28 AM:
If you've got a hp, be careful not to say the word "linux". I made that mistake, and they immediately stopped talking to me, saying they couldn't help unless my laptop was in its "original configuration".
I got that nonsense too. But here in Canukistaniland we have a consumer law with a wonderful phrase: "suitable for the intention it was purchased for" I made sure when I bought this Presario I asked the salesman if it would run Linux. "Sure". GOTCHA! -- It is bad luck to be superstitious. - Andrew W. Mathis -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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