I have a strange kicker problem I have a 10.1 install which worked fine I could see the network manager, the little battery for powersave and the everything else now they are gone. I tried restarting I tried stopping and starting kicker and could not fix it. I think this happened after I applied the kde patch so I do not know if that caused it...any idea?? Thanks in advance. George -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com