[opensuse] WARNING! re latest update to OpenOffice from Novell
Just to be sure, do not allow YaST/zypper (or even smart) to update your (32-bit) 11.1 installation of OpenOffice to the latest version - leave it at 3.0.0.9-1.11. I allowed zypper to update it this morning and now I have one big f***-up, and lost the ability to run OpenOffice. I've spent the past 9 hours trying to figure out how to get my working OO back and the only conclusion I have now come to is for me to use 'rpm -e OpenOffice*' and reinstall from the DVD (with the BuildService STABLE for OO *disabled* in the repos). Now your mileage re this may vary and you may even have had no problems with YaST updating your OO on your system - which is fine. But if you are yet to update OO then watch out for the list of the dependency errors, and then simply do not attempt to update OO. Ciao. -- "I do not instruct the uninterested; I do not help those who fail to try. If I mention one corner of a subject and the pupil does not deduce therefrom the other three, I drop him." Confucius -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
2009/1/31 Basil Chupin <blchupin@iinet.net.au>:
Just to be sure, do not allow YaST/zypper (or even smart) to update your (32-bit) 11.1 installation of OpenOffice to the latest version - leave it at 3.0.0.9-1.11.
I allowed zypper to update it this morning and now I have one big f***-up, and lost the ability to run OpenOffice.
I've spent the past 9 hours trying to figure out how to get my working OO back and the only conclusion I have now come to is for me to use 'rpm -e OpenOffice*' and reinstall from the DVD (with the BuildService STABLE for OO *disabled* in the repos).
Now your mileage re this may vary and you may even have had no problems with YaST updating your OO on your system - which is fine. But if you are yet to update OO then watch out for the list of the dependency errors, and then simply do not attempt to update OO.
Please post the link to the bug that you filed so that I can triage it. Thanks. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Just to be sure, do not allow YaST/zypper (or even smart) to update your (32-bit) 11.1 installation of OpenOffice to the latest version - leave it at 3.0.0.9-1.11.
Or... you could simply install the latest 3.0.1 from the OO.o site. C. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
* Clayton <smaug42@gmail.com> [01-31-09 03:14]:
Or... you could simply install the latest 3.0.1 from the OO.o site.
And miss the Novell/openSUSE enhancements and locations. note: when openSUSE versions of a package are available for your system, they *usually* are a better match than offsite versions such as Firefox, openoffice, etc, .... -- Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA HOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://counter.li.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
2009/1/31 Patrick Shanahan <paka@opensuse.org>:
* Clayton <smaug42@gmail.com> [01-31-09 03:14]:
Or... you could simply install the latest 3.0.1 from the OO.o site.
And miss the Novell/openSUSE enhancements and locations.
note: when openSUSE versions of a package are available for your system, they *usually* are a better match than offsite versions such as Firefox, openoffice, etc, ....
I think that Go-oo has most of the Novell enhancements: http://what-is-what.com/what_is/go-oo.html -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü N�����r��y隊Z)z{.�ﮞ˛���m�)z{.��+�Z+i�b�*'jW(�f�vǦj)h���Ǿ��i����� ��
Or... you could simply install the latest 3.0.1 from the OO.o site.
And miss the Novell/openSUSE enhancements and locations.
note: when openSUSE versions of a package are available for your system, they *usually* are a better match than offsite versions such as Firefox, openoffice, etc, ....
I have had issues with the GoOO version of OOo not working with extensions, having weird known bugs that are not in the trunk version etc. Consistently, I find that the vanilla OOo is more stable and more usable - yes at the expense of missing out on a few extras that Novell puts into the GoOO version... but... wonky behavior (eg crashing repeatedly when doing search/replace on styles)... vs stable OOo that works... I'll take stable OOo any day. C. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 07:07:07PM +1100, Basil Chupin wrote:
Just to be sure, do not allow YaST/zypper (or even smart) to update your (32-bit) 11.1 installation of OpenOffice to the latest version - leave it at 3.0.0.9-1.11.
I allowed zypper to update it this morning and now I have one big f***-up, and lost the ability to run OpenOffice.
I've spent the past 9 hours trying to figure out how to get my working OO back and the only conclusion I have now come to is for me to use 'rpm -e OpenOffice*' and reinstall from the DVD (with the BuildService STABLE for OO *disabled* in the repos).
Now your mileage re this may vary and you may even have had no problems with YaST updating your OO on your system - which is fine. But if you are yet to update OO then watch out for the list of the dependency errors, and then simply do not attempt to update OO.
We did not release an OpenOffice_org update via our regular update channels. Have you added the openSUSE BS OpenOffice org repo? Ciao, Marcus -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 01/31/2009 04:13 PM, Marcus Meissner wrote:
On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 07:07:07PM +1100, Basil Chupin wrote:
Just to be sure, do not allow YaST/zypper (or even smart) to update your (32-bit) 11.1 installation of OpenOffice to the latest version - leave it at 3.0.0.9-1.11.
We did not release an OpenOffice_org update via our regular update channels.
Have you added the openSUSE BS OpenOffice org repo?
Ciao, Marcus
Yes, I am sure he installed from the 11.1 STABLE repo, and I can confirm the 3.0.1 packages there do not work, something that was a surprise to me as well. I installed the x86_64 packages, but none would start up. Looking at versions showed some 3.0.0.9 packages still installed, which when uninstalled it complained about the localization and not being able to determine language (not good for US English). Reinstalling from the DVD restored it without much problem. -- Joe Morris Registered Linux user 231871 running openSUSE 11.1 x86_64 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Joe Morris wrote:
On 01/31/2009 04:13 PM, Marcus Meissner wrote:
On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 07:07:07PM +1100, Basil Chupin wrote:
Just to be sure, do not allow YaST/zypper (or even smart) to update your (32-bit) 11.1 installation of OpenOffice to the latest version - leave it at 3.0.0.9-1.11.
We did not release an OpenOffice_org update via our regular update channels.
Have you added the openSUSE BS OpenOffice org repo?
Ciao, Marcus
Yes, I am sure he installed from the 11.1 STABLE repo, and I can confirm the 3.0.1 packages there do not work, something that was a surprise to me as well. I installed the x86_64 packages, but none would start up. Looking at versions showed some 3.0.0.9 packages still installed, which when uninstalled it complained about the localization and not being able to determine language (not good for US English). Reinstalling from the DVD restored it without much problem.
So, you suffered the same fate :-( . Commiserations. Ciao. -- "I do not instruct the uninterested; I do not help those who fail to try. If I mention one corner of a subject and the pupil does not deduce therefrom the other three, I drop him." Confucius -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Saturday 31 January 2009 11:11:18 Joe Morris wrote:
Yes, I am sure he installed from the 11.1 STABLE repo, and I can confirm the 3.0.1 packages there do not work, something that was a surprise to me as well. I installed the x86_64 packages, but none would start up. Looking at versions showed some 3.0.0.9 packages still installed, which when uninstalled it complained about the localization and not being able to determine language (not good for US English). Reinstalling from the DVD restored it without much problem.
Ah yes, I got that as well just now. Reinstalling the l10n package from the STABLE repo made it work. No need to reinstall 3.0.0.9 Seriously, if you are going to use packages from the build service, letting the packager know about problems - instead of just reinstalling the old version and complaining on mailing lists - gives you a far better chance of making things work Anders -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 01/31/2009 07:42 PM, Anders Johansson wrote:
On Saturday 31 January 2009 11:11:18 Joe Morris wrote:
Yes, I am sure he installed from the 11.1 STABLE repo, and I can confirm the 3.0.1 packages there do not work, something that was a surprise to me as well. I installed the x86_64 packages, but none would start up. Looking at versions showed some 3.0.0.9 packages still installed, which when uninstalled it complained about the localization and not being able to determine language (not good for US English). Reinstalling from the DVD restored it without much problem.
Ah yes, I got that as well just now. Reinstalling the l10n package from the STABLE repo made it work. No need to reinstall 3.0.0.9
Seriously, if you are going to use packages from the build service, letting the packager know about problems - instead of just reinstalling the old version and complaining on mailing lists - gives you a far better chance of making things work
Anders
Bug 471280, but someone beat me to it. I am interested as to what you have installed now, if it is working for you. I needed to get some work done besides bug reporting (which I also did BTW), that is why I downgraded. I had already tried everything I could to rectify the problem, including uninstalling all 3.0.0.9 packages (mentioned in your other email), and I could tell it was a localization problem, but I had already installed l10n-en-US package and could see no other one with en-US that could help. Are you running the 32 or 64 bit version? -- Joe Morris Registered Linux user 231871 running openSUSE 11.1 x86_64 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Saturday 31 January 2009 13:04:21 Joe Morris wrote:
Bug 471280, but someone beat me to it. I am interested as to what you have installed now, if it is working for you. I needed to get some work done besides bug reporting (which I also did BTW), that is why I downgraded. I had already tried everything I could to rectify the problem, including uninstalling all 3.0.0.9 packages (mentioned in your other email), and I could tell it was a localization problem, but I had already installed l10n-en-US package and could see no other one with en-US that could help. Are you running the 32 or 64 bit version?
I have the 64 bit version. And I also had the l10n-en-US package (and a few other i10n packages) installed, but after I uninstalled the other three packages I mentioned, I reinstalled them. After that it worked. My guess is that the uninstall removed some file somewhere that was needed, but I'm not sure right now why rpm didn't complain about it. The packages I have installed are
rpm -qa OpenOffice\* OpenOffice_org-ure-3.0.0.9-2.6 OpenOffice_org-thesaurus-sv-20080609-5.1 OpenOffice_org-l10n-en-US-3.0.1.2-3.1 OpenOffice_org-writer-3.0.1.2-2.1 OpenOffice_org-l10n-sv-3.0.1.2-3.1 OpenOffice_org-templates-labels-a4-1.0-5.1 OpenOffice_org-help-en-US-3.0.1.2-3.1 OpenOffice_org-filters-3.0.1.2-2.1 OpenOffice_org-thesaurus-en-20060111-5.1 OpenOffice_org-templates-en-3.0-2.1 OpenOffice_org-converter-3.0-1.24 OpenOffice_org-Quickstarter-1.0-712.1 OpenOffice_org-3.0.1.2-2.1 OpenOffice_org-impress-3.0.1.2-2.1 OpenOffice_org-mailmerge-3.0.1.2-2.1 OpenOffice_org-help-sv-3.0.1.2-3.1 OpenOffice_org-hyphen-20080929-38.1 OpenOffice_org-templates-presentation-layouts-3.0-2.1 OpenOffice_org-base-3.0.1.2-2.1 OpenOffice_org-calc-3.0.1.2-2.1 OpenOffice_org-math-3.0.1.2-2.1 OpenOffice_org-help-en-GB-3.0.0.9-1.7 OpenOffice_org-branding-openSUSE-3.0-24.16 OpenOffice_org-templates-labels-letter-1.0-5.1 OpenOffice_org-draw-3.0.1.2-2.1 OpenOffice_org-kde-3.0.1.2-2.1 OpenOffice_org-libs-extern-3.0.0.9-1.13 OpenOffice_org-icon-themes-3.0.1.2-3.1 OpenOffice_org-pyuno-3.0.1.2-2.1 OpenOffice_org-l10n-en-GB-3.0.1.2-3.1
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On 01/31/2009 08:08 PM, Anders Johansson wrote:
I have the 64 bit version. And I also had the l10n-en-US package (and a few other i10n packages) installed, but after I uninstalled the other three packages I mentioned, I reinstalled them. After that it worked. My guess is that the uninstall removed some file somewhere that was needed, but I'm not sure right now why rpm didn't complain about it.
The packages I have installed are
rpm -qa OpenOffice\*
OpenOffice_org-ure-3.0.0.9-2.6 OpenOffice_org-thesaurus-sv-20080609-5.1 OpenOffice_org-l10n-en-US-3.0.1.2-3.1 OpenOffice_org-writer-3.0.1.2-2.1 OpenOffice_org-l10n-sv-3.0.1.2-3.1 OpenOffice_org-templates-labels-a4-1.0-5.1 OpenOffice_org-help-en-US-3.0.1.2-3.1 OpenOffice_org-filters-3.0.1.2-2.1 OpenOffice_org-thesaurus-en-20060111-5.1 OpenOffice_org-templates-en-3.0-2.1 OpenOffice_org-converter-3.0-1.24 OpenOffice_org-Quickstarter-1.0-712.1 OpenOffice_org-3.0.1.2-2.1 OpenOffice_org-impress-3.0.1.2-2.1 OpenOffice_org-mailmerge-3.0.1.2-2.1 OpenOffice_org-help-sv-3.0.1.2-3.1 OpenOffice_org-hyphen-20080929-38.1 OpenOffice_org-templates-presentation-layouts-3.0-2.1 OpenOffice_org-base-3.0.1.2-2.1 OpenOffice_org-calc-3.0.1.2-2.1 OpenOffice_org-math-3.0.1.2-2.1 OpenOffice_org-help-en-GB-3.0.0.9-1.7 OpenOffice_org-branding-openSUSE-3.0-24.16 OpenOffice_org-templates-labels-letter-1.0-5.1 OpenOffice_org-draw-3.0.1.2-2.1 OpenOffice_org-kde-3.0.1.2-2.1 OpenOffice_org-libs-extern-3.0.0.9-1.13 OpenOffice_org-icon-themes-3.0.1.2-3.1 OpenOffice_org-pyuno-3.0.1.2-2.1 OpenOffice_org-l10n-en-GB-3.0.1.2-3.1
Anders
Well, I am still having problems. I do not see the problem. I had uninstalled all the 3.0.0.9 packages and updated the others. When that did not work, I went through your list above and reinstalled a couple, the ure and libs-extern. The only thing I see different are you have a couple more languages. Any ideas? BTW, I believe the ure and the libs-extern also has files that collide with the main OpenOffice_org package, so I uninstalled them again and reinstalled OpenOffice_org. joe@jmorris:~> rpm -qa | grep OpenOffice OpenOffice_org-thesaurus-en-20060111-5.1 OpenOffice_org-l10n-en-US-3.0.1.2-3.1 OpenOffice_org-templates-labels-a4-1.0-5.1 OpenOffice_org-calc-3.0.1.2-2.1 OpenOffice_org-Quickstarter-1.0-712.1 OpenOffice_org-openclipart-3-2.4 OpenOffice_org-math-3.0.1.2-2.1 OpenOffice_org-templates-en-3.0-2.1 OpenOffice_org-base-3.0.1.2-2.1 OpenOffice_org-mailmerge-3.0.1.2-2.1 OpenOffice_org-writer-3.0.1.2-2.1 OpenOffice_org-draw-3.0.1.2-2.1 OpenOffice_org-kde-3.0.1.2-2.1 OpenOffice_org-help-en-US-3.0.1.2-3.1 OpenOffice_org-templates-presentation-layouts-3.0-2.1 OpenOffice_org-filters-3.0.1.2-2.1 OpenOffice_org-converter-3.0-1.24 OpenOffice_org-pyuno-3.0.1.2-2.1 OpenOffice_org-impress-3.0.1.2-2.1 OpenOffice_org-branding-openSUSE-3.0-24.16 OpenOffice_org-templates-labels-letter-1.0-5.1 OpenOffice_org-hyphen-20080929-38.1 OpenOffice_org-icon-themes-3.0.1.2-3.1 OpenOffice_org-3.0.1.2-2.1 joe@jmorris:~> rpm -V OpenOffice_org-thesaurus-en joe@jmorris:~> rpm -V OpenOffice_org-l10n-en-US .......T /usr/share/ooo3/link-to-ooo-home joe@jmorris:~> rpm -V OpenOffice_org-templates-labels-a4 joe@jmorris:~> rpm -V OpenOffice_org-calc joe@jmorris:~> rpm -V OpenOffice_org-Quickstarter joe@jmorris:~> rpm -V OpenOffice_org-openclipart joe@jmorris:~> rpm -V OpenOffice_org-math joe@jmorris:~> rpm -V OpenOffice_org-templates-en joe@jmorris:~> rpm -V OpenOffice_org-base joe@jmorris:~> rpm -V OpenOffice_org-mailmerge joe@jmorris:~> rpm -V OpenOffice_org-writer joe@jmorris:~> rpm -V OpenOffice_org-draw joe@jmorris:~> rpm -V OpenOffice_org-kde joe@jmorris:~> rpm -V OpenOffice_org-help-en-US joe@jmorris:~> rpm -V OpenOffice_org-templates-presentation-layouts joe@jmorris:~> rpm -V OpenOffice_org-filters joe@jmorris:~> rpm -V OpenOffice_org-converter joe@jmorris:~> rpm -V OpenOffice_org-pyuno joe@jmorris:~> rpm -V OpenOffice_org-impress joe@jmorris:~> rpm -V OpenOffice_org-branding-openSUSE joe@jmorris:~> rpm -V OpenOffice_org-templates-labels-letter joe@jmorris:~> rpm -V OpenOffice_org-hyphen joe@jmorris:~> rpm -V OpenOffice_org-icon-themes joe@jmorris:~> rpm -V OpenOffice_org -- Joe Morris Registered Linux user 231871 running openSUSE 11.1 x86_64 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Saturday 31 January 2009 16:19:48 Joe Morris wrote:
Well, I am still having problems. I do not see the problem. I had uninstalled all the 3.0.0.9 packages and updated the others. When that did not work, I went through your list above and reinstalled a couple, the ure and libs-extern.
Those two I didn't even realize I still had. I had a functioning (32bit) ooo install from the DVD, then I added the STABLE repo and selected all available updates (I clicked on each manually, because of the architecture change, to make sure it was all done correctly) Once I had updated all packages that were available in STABLE, I couldn't start ooo anymore. Then I deleted those three packages I mentioned before. Then I got the error message about the missing language file, so I selected the l10n files for reinstall. After this it worked That was the whole procedure I went through, from start to finish. Anders -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Saturday 31 January 2009 05:42:41 am Anders Johansson wrote:
Seriously, if you are going to use packages from the build service, letting the packager know about problems - instead of just reinstalling the old version and complaining on mailing lists - gives you a far better chance of making things work
Where to find name of packager as normal user? I think that is known, but still not solved problem. -- Regards, Rajko -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 01/31/2009 08:24 PM, Rajko M. wrote:
On Saturday 31 January 2009 05:42:41 am Anders Johansson wrote:
Seriously, if you are going to use packages from the build service, letting the packager know about problems - instead of just reinstalling the old version and complaining on mailing lists - gives you a far better chance of making things work
Where to find name of packager as normal user? I think that is known, but still not solved problem.
It is in the changelog, and if installed, it is a tab in Software Management. The latest entry should have the packager's email address. -- Joe Morris Registered Linux user 231871 running openSUSE 11.1 x86_64 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Saturday 31 January 2009 13:24:11 Rajko M. wrote:
On Saturday 31 January 2009 05:42:41 am Anders Johansson wrote:
Seriously, if you are going to use packages from the build service, letting the packager know about problems - instead of just reinstalling the old version and complaining on mailing lists - gives you a far better chance of making things work
Where to find name of packager as normal user? I think that is known, but still not solved problem.
You're right that there is no one-stop solution, but there are a few options Some packagers (too few) set the rpm PACKAGER variable rpm -q --qf "%{PACKAGER}\n" packagename The changelog is also a place to look. Not all packagers add their changes to it, but they should rpm -q --changelog packagename|head I thought there was a way to report bugs against OBS projects in bugzilla, but I can't find it at the moment. Anders -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Saturday 31 January 2009 06:31:27 am Anders Johansson wrote:
On Saturday 31 January 2009 13:24:11 Rajko M. wrote:
On Saturday 31 January 2009 05:42:41 am Anders Johansson wrote:
Seriously, if you are going to use packages from the build service, letting the packager know about problems - instead of just reinstalling the old version and complaining on mailing lists - gives you a far better chance of making things work
Where to find name of packager as normal user? I think that is known, but still not solved problem.
You're right that there is no one-stop solution, but there are a few options
Some packagers (too few) set the rpm PACKAGER variable
rpm -q --qf "%{PACKAGER}\n" packagename
The changelog is also a place to look. Not all packagers add their changes to it, but they should
rpm -q --changelog packagename|head
I thought there was a way to report bugs against OBS projects in bugzilla, but I can't find it at the moment.
Anders
I found something under Components for openSUSE.org: 3rd party software For Software in any repositories of the OBS, except the official openSUSE distributions. -- Regards, Rajko -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
</snip>On Saturday 31 January 2009 04:31:27 am Anders Johansson wrote:
On Saturday 31 January 2009 13:24:11 Rajko M. wrote:
On Saturday 31 January 2009 05:42:41 am Anders Johansson wrote:
Seriously, if you are going to use packages from the build service, letting the packager know about problems - instead of just reinstalling the old version and complaining on mailing lists - gives you a far better chance of making things work
Where to find name of packager as normal user? I think that is known, but still not solved problem. </snip> I want to thank everyone on this thread, between your comments I was finally able to get OpenOffice 3.0.1.2 installed and working:
I ran into this this morning. I'm KDE 4.1.3, openSUSE 11.1.. 1. when the dependecnces came up I said go ahead and make the changes and do the update (YaST2). 2. It then installed 3.0.1.2 OK. When I tried starting the application it kept telling me it could not start it. I went back into YaST and deleted all references to the old version of OpenOffice (some were still installed). Still would not start. I went back in an reinstalled the language package (was mentioned in one of the items in this thread). Now OpenOffice starts and both writer and spreadsheet appear to read and modify my old documents. Here's list of rpms installed: rpm -qa |grep OpenOffice OpenOffice_org-templates-labels-letter-1.0-5.1 OpenOffice_org-templates-labels-a4-1.0-5.1 OpenOffice_org-filters-3.0.1.2-2.1 OpenOffice_org-kde-3.0.1.2-2.1 OpenOffice_org-impress-3.0.1.2-2.1 OpenOffice_org-math-3.0.1.2-2.1 OpenOffice_org-converter-3.0-1.24 OpenOffice_org-3.0.1.2-2.1 OpenOffice_org-base-3.0.1.2-2.1 OpenOffice_org-templates-en-3.0-2.1 OpenOffice_org-writer-3.0.1.2-2.1 OpenOffice_org-pyuno-3.0.1.2-2.1 OpenOffice_org-branding-openSUSE-3.0-24.16 OpenOffice_org-icon-themes-3.0.1.2-3.1 OpenOffice_org-templates-presentation-layouts-3.0-2.1 OpenOffice_org-calc-3.0.1.2-2.1 OpenOffice_org-thesaurus-en-20060111-5.1 OpenOffice_org-help-en-US-3.0.1.2-3.1 OpenOffice_org-l10n-en-US-3.0.1.2-3.1 OpenOffice_org-hyphen-20080929-38.1 OpenOffice_org-mailmerge-3.0.1.2-2.1 OpenOffice_org-Quickstarter-1.0-712.1 OpenOffice_org-draw-3.0.1.2-2.1 Thanks again to all of you. -- Russ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Marcus Meissner wrote:
On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 07:07:07PM +1100, Basil Chupin wrote:
Just to be sure, do not allow YaST/zypper (or even smart) to update your (32-bit) 11.1 installation of OpenOffice to the latest version - leave it at 3.0.0.9-1.11.
I allowed zypper to update it this morning and now I have one big f***-up, and lost the ability to run OpenOffice.
I've spent the past 9 hours trying to figure out how to get my working OO back and the only conclusion I have now come to is for me to use 'rpm -e OpenOffice*' and reinstall from the DVD (with the BuildService STABLE for OO *disabled* in the repos).
Now your mileage re this may vary and you may even have had no problems with YaST updating your OO on your system - which is fine. But if you are yet to update OO then watch out for the list of the dependency errors, and then simply do not attempt to update OO.
We did not release an OpenOffice_org update via our regular update channels.
Have you added the openSUSE BS OpenOffice org repo?
Ciao, Marcus
Yes, this was added from the Add repos in YaST's Software Repositories on the day I installed 11.1 on my test system when 11.1 was first released and then last week when I installed 11.1 on my "main" system (see my penultimate para. above). Ciao. -- "I do not instruct the uninterested; I do not help those who fail to try. If I mention one corner of a subject and the pupil does not deduce therefrom the other three, I drop him." Confucius -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Am Samstag, 31. Januar 2009 09:07:07 schrieb Basil Chupin:
Just to be sure, do not allow YaST/zypper (or even smart) to update your (32-bit) 11.1 installation of OpenOffice to the latest version - leave it at 3.0.0.9-1.11.
I allowed zypper to update it this morning and now I have one big f***-up, and lost the ability to run OpenOffice.
I'm on 11.0 and it works here: rpm -qa | grep OpenOffice OpenOffice_org-thesaurus-de-20080406-10.1 OpenOffice_org-templates-en-3.0-2.1 OpenOffice_org-kde-3.0.1.2-2.1 OpenOffice_org-writer-3.0.1.2-2.1 OpenOffice_org-hyphen-20080929-38.1 OpenOffice_org-help-en-US-3.0.1.2-4.1 OpenOffice_org-calc-3.0.1.2-2.1 OpenOffice_org-icon-themes-3.0.1.2-4.1 OpenOffice_org-templates-presentation-layouts-3.0-2.1 OpenOffice_org-l10n-de-3.0.1.2-4.1 OpenOffice_org-impress-3.0.1.2-2.1 OpenOffice_org-Quickstarter-1.0-712.1 OpenOffice_org-draw-3.0.1.2-2.1 OpenOffice_org-pyuno-3.0.1.2-2.1 OpenOffice_org-templates-labels-a4-1.0-11.1 OpenOffice_org-templates-de-3.0-2.1 OpenOffice_org-branding-upstream-3.0.1.2-2.1 OpenOffice_org-help-de-3.0.1.2-4.1 OpenOffice_org-filters-3.0.1.2-2.1 OpenOffice_org-branding-openSUSE-2.4-17.1 OpenOffice_org-base-3.0.1.2-2.1 OpenOffice_org-l10n-en-US-3.0.1.2-4.1 OpenOffice_org-templates-labels-letter-1.0-11.1 OpenOffice_org-mailmerge-3.0.1.2-2.1 OpenOffice_org-thesaurus-en-20060111-55.1 OpenOffice_org-math-3.0.1.2-2.1 OpenOffice_org-3.0.1.2-2.1 Sven -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Sven Burmeister wrote:
Am Samstag, 31. Januar 2009 09:07:07 schrieb Basil Chupin:
Just to be sure, do not allow YaST/zypper (or even smart) to update your (32-bit) 11.1 installation of OpenOffice to the latest version - leave it at 3.0.0.9-1.11.
I allowed zypper to update it this morning and now I have one big f***-up, and lost the ability to run OpenOffice.
I'm on 11.0 and it works here:
rpm -qa | grep OpenOffice OpenOffice_org-thesaurus-de-20080406-10.1 OpenOffice_org-templates-en-3.0-2.1 OpenOffice_org-kde-3.0.1.2-2.1 OpenOffice_org-writer-3.0.1.2-2.1 OpenOffice_org-hyphen-20080929-38.1 OpenOffice_org-help-en-US-3.0.1.2-4.1 OpenOffice_org-calc-3.0.1.2-2.1 OpenOffice_org-icon-themes-3.0.1.2-4.1 OpenOffice_org-templates-presentation-layouts-3.0-2.1 OpenOffice_org-l10n-de-3.0.1.2-4.1 OpenOffice_org-impress-3.0.1.2-2.1 OpenOffice_org-Quickstarter-1.0-712.1 OpenOffice_org-draw-3.0.1.2-2.1 OpenOffice_org-pyuno-3.0.1.2-2.1 OpenOffice_org-templates-labels-a4-1.0-11.1 OpenOffice_org-templates-de-3.0-2.1 OpenOffice_org-branding-upstream-3.0.1.2-2.1 OpenOffice_org-help-de-3.0.1.2-4.1 OpenOffice_org-filters-3.0.1.2-2.1 OpenOffice_org-branding-openSUSE-2.4-17.1 OpenOffice_org-base-3.0.1.2-2.1 OpenOffice_org-l10n-en-US-3.0.1.2-4.1 OpenOffice_org-templates-labels-letter-1.0-11.1 OpenOffice_org-mailmerge-3.0.1.2-2.1 OpenOffice_org-thesaurus-en-20060111-55.1 OpenOffice_org-math-3.0.1.2-2.1 OpenOffice_org-3.0.1.2-2.1
Sven
Obviously some control file is happy with recognising 11.0 but has a hernia when it comes to 11.1 and stuffs everything up for 11.1. Ciao. -- "I do not instruct the uninterested; I do not help those who fail to try. If I mention one corner of a subject and the pupil does not deduce therefrom the other three, I drop him." Confucius -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Saturday 31 January 2009 09:07:07 Basil Chupin wrote:
Just to be sure, do not allow YaST/zypper (or even smart) to update your (32-bit) 11.1 installation of OpenOffice to the latest version - leave it at 3.0.0.9-1.11.
It works on 11.1 as well. There were a few issues with dependencies which need to be reported to the packager though. e.g. OpenOffice_org-libs-gui, OpenOffice_org-libs-core and OpenOffice-components do not seem to have replacements in 3.0.1, so they should have been removed, but weren't. They were still around at version 3.0.0.9, causing conflicts. But simply rpm -e OpenOffice_org-libs-gui OpenOffice_org-libs-core OpenOffice-components made everything work again Anders -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Anders Johansson wrote:
On Saturday 31 January 2009 09:07:07 Basil Chupin wrote:
Just to be sure, do not allow YaST/zypper (or even smart) to update your (32-bit) 11.1 installation of OpenOffice to the latest version - leave it at 3.0.0.9-1.11.
It works on 11.1 as well. There were a few issues with dependencies which need to be reported to the packager though. e.g. OpenOffice_org-libs-gui, OpenOffice_org-libs-core and OpenOffice-components do not seem to have replacements in 3.0.1, so they should have been removed, but weren't. They were still around at version 3.0.0.9, causing conflicts. But simply
rpm -e OpenOffice_org-libs-gui OpenOffice_org-libs-core OpenOffice-components
made everything work again
Anders
Well when installing here all the *-extensions and the *filters-optional RPMs are marked for deletion but they are not deleted and cause the dependency problems. OK, they can be manually deleted but there is one more RPM which simply cannot be removed because it is needed by some 3009 files (which will be replaced by the update anyway); this RPM is OpenOffice_org-l10n-extras-3.0.0.9-1.11.noarch and it simply CANNOT be removed because 'rpm -e' comes back and states that the damn thing is not installed- when it is! :-) :-( . And I will try removing the ones you mention above. Ciao. -- "I do not instruct the uninterested; I do not help those who fail to try. If I mention one corner of a subject and the pupil does not deduce therefrom the other three, I drop him." Confucius -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Saturday 31 January 2009 12:55:45 Basil Chupin wrote:
And I will try removing the ones you mention above.
I forgot about the language problem that followed, so see also my reply to Joe. I'm not sure why you get dependency issues on the -extensions and -filters, I don't see anything requiring those. Here they uninstalled without any complaints. Exactly which packages are you installing, and which dependency problems are you seeing? Anders -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Basil Chupin wrote:
Anders Johansson wrote:
On Saturday 31 January 2009 09:07:07 Basil Chupin wrote:
Just to be sure, do not allow YaST/zypper (or even smart) to update your (32-bit) 11.1 installation of OpenOffice to the latest version - leave it at 3.0.0.9-1.11.
It works on 11.1 as well. There were a few issues with dependencies which need to be reported to the packager though. e.g. OpenOffice_org-libs-gui, OpenOffice_org-libs-core and OpenOffice-components do not seem to have replacements in 3.0.1, so they should have been removed, but weren't. They were still around at version 3.0.0.9, causing conflicts. But simply
rpm -e OpenOffice_org-libs-gui OpenOffice_org-libs-core OpenOffice-components
made everything work again
Anders
Well when installing here all the *-extensions and the *filters-optional RPMs are marked for deletion but they are not deleted and cause the dependency problems. OK, they can be manually deleted but there is one more RPM which simply cannot be removed because it is needed by some 3009 files (which will be replaced by the update anyway); this RPM is OpenOffice_org-l10n-extras-3.0.0.9-1.11.noarch and it simply CANNOT be removed because 'rpm -e' comes back and states that the damn thing is not installed- when it is! :-) :-( .
And I will try removing the ones you mention above.
I deleted the files you mentioned above and OO3.0.1.2 now appears to work. I'll now go and see which files WERE updated a few hours ago -- but I do know that a number of 3009 files were still installed the last time I looked (before I gave my self a break and watched a DVD :-) ). Ciao. -- "I do not instruct the uninterested; I do not help those who fail to try. If I mention one corner of a subject and the pupil does not deduce therefrom the other three, I drop him." Confucius -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Basil Chupin wrote:
Basil Chupin wrote:
Anders Johansson wrote:
On Saturday 31 January 2009 09:07:07 Basil Chupin wrote:
Just to be sure, do not allow YaST/zypper (or even smart) to update your (32-bit) 11.1 installation of OpenOffice to the latest version - leave it at 3.0.0.9-1.11.
It works on 11.1 as well. There were a few issues with dependencies which need to be reported to the packager though. e.g. OpenOffice_org-libs-gui, OpenOffice_org-libs-core and OpenOffice-components do not seem to have replacements in 3.0.1, so they should have been removed, but weren't. They were still around at version 3.0.0.9, causing conflicts. But simply
rpm -e OpenOffice_org-libs-gui OpenOffice_org-libs-core OpenOffice-components
made everything work again
Anders
Well when installing here all the *-extensions and the *filters-optional RPMs are marked for deletion but they are not deleted and cause the dependency problems. OK, they can be manually deleted but there is one more RPM which simply cannot be removed because it is needed by some 3009 files (which will be replaced by the update anyway); this RPM is OpenOffice_org-l10n-extras-3.0.0.9-1.11.noarch and it simply CANNOT be removed because 'rpm -e' comes back and states that the damn thing is not installed- when it is! :-) :-( .
And I will try removing the ones you mention above.
I deleted the files you mentioned above and OO3.0.1.2 now appears to work.
I'll now go and see which files WERE updated a few hours ago -- but I do know that a number of 3009 files were still installed the last time I looked (before I gave my self a break and watched a DVD :-) ).
<Shakes head in disbelief> Just had a look in Software Management and found that the OO files have been now updated to 3012 - which was not the case when I posted my original message. Looks like the automatic daily Online Update 'jumped in' and did some updating while I was watching the DVD. 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compiz-kde4-0.7.8-28.1.i586 [ ] Ignore some dependencies of compiz-kde4 #### YaST2 conflicts list END ### (Sorry for the long post - and for not starting a new thread.) 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On Saturday 31 January 2009 13:47:58 Basil Chupin wrote:
Basil Chupin wrote:
Basil Chupin wrote:
Anders Johansson wrote:
On Saturday 31 January 2009 09:07:07 Basil Chupin wrote:
Just to be sure, do not allow YaST/zypper (or even smart) to update your (32-bit) 11.1 installation of OpenOffice to the latest version - leave it at 3.0.0.9-1.11.
It works on 11.1 as well. There were a few issues with dependencies which need to be reported to the packager though. e.g. OpenOffice_org-libs-gui, OpenOffice_org-libs-core and OpenOffice-components do not seem to have replacements in 3.0.1, so they should have been removed, but weren't. They were still around at version 3.0.0.9, causing conflicts. But simply
rpm -e OpenOffice_org-libs-gui OpenOffice_org-libs-core OpenOffice-components
made everything work again
Anders
Well when installing here all the *-extensions and the *filters-optional RPMs are marked for deletion but they are not deleted and cause the dependency problems. OK, they can be manually deleted but there is one more RPM which simply cannot be removed because it is needed by some 3009 files (which will be replaced by the update anyway); this RPM is OpenOffice_org-l10n-extras-3.0.0.9-1.11.noarch and it simply CANNOT be removed because 'rpm -e' comes back and states that the damn thing is not installed- when it is! :-) :-( .
And I will try removing the ones you mention above.
I deleted the files you mentioned above and OO3.0.1.2 now appears to work.
I'll now go and see which files WERE updated a few hours ago -- but I do know that a number of 3009 files were still installed the last time I looked (before I gave my self a break and watched a DVD :-) ).
<Shakes head in disbelief>
Just had a look in Software Management and found that the OO files have been now updated to 3012 - which was not the case when I posted my original message. Looks like the automatic daily Online Update 'jumped in' and did some updating while I was watching the DVD.
(All I now need to do is to find out why I have been getting this for the past several days:
#### YaST2 conflicts list - generated 2009-01-31 23:43:50 ####
compiz-kde4-0.7.8-28.1.i586 requires libplasma.so.2, but this requirement cannot be provided
Right. libplasma.so.2 is from kde 4.1, and you have updated to kde 4.2 This was one of the conflicts that I mentioned, that you claimed you had never seen. You must have just hit "ignore" on it Just uninstall compiz-kde4 until they release a new version for kde 4.2 (or just start using the effects built into kwin) Anders -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Anders Johansson wrote:
On Saturday 31 January 2009 13:47:58 Basil Chupin wrote:
[pruned]
#### YaST2 conflicts list - generated 2009-01-31 23:43:50 ####
compiz-kde4-0.7.8-28.1.i586 requires libplasma.so.2, but this requirement cannot be provided
Right. libplasma.so.2 is from kde 4.1, and you have updated to kde 4.2
This was one of the conflicts that I mentioned, that you claimed you had never seen. You must have just hit "ignore" on it
Just uninstall compiz-kde4 until they release a new version for kde 4.2 (or just start using the effects built into kwin)
Anders
Including the other 80+ files which deleting compiz-kde4 wants to zap along with itself? Ciao. -- "I do not instruct the uninterested; I do not help those who fail to try. If I mention one corner of a subject and the pupil does not deduce therefrom the other three, I drop him." Confucius -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Saturday 31 January 2009 14:09:07 Basil Chupin wrote:
Including the other 80+ files which deleting compiz-kde4 wants to zap along with itself?
And which would those be? When I uninstalled it, I don't recall any non-compiz related dependencies Anders -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Anders Johansson wrote:
On Saturday 31 January 2009 14:09:07 Basil Chupin wrote:
Including the other 80+ files which deleting compiz-kde4 wants to zap along with itself?
And which would those be? When I uninstalled it, I don't recall any non-compiz related dependencies
Anders
They are all listed in the message I posted to which you replied saying to delete compiz-kde4. Ciao. -- "I do not instruct the uninterested; I do not help those who fail to try. If I mention one corner of a subject and the pupil does not deduce therefrom the other three, I drop him." Confucius -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Saturday 31 January 2009 14:37:00 Basil Chupin wrote:
Anders Johansson wrote:
On Saturday 31 January 2009 14:09:07 Basil Chupin wrote:
Including the other 80+ files which deleting compiz-kde4 wants to zap along with itself?
And which would those be? When I uninstalled it, I don't recall any non-compiz related dependencies
Anders
They are all listed in the message I posted to which you replied saying to delete compiz-kde4.
But those aren't dependencies of compiz-kde4, they are dependencies of kde 4.1, which yast suggests to downgrade to in order to satisfy the kde 4.1 deoendency of compiz-kde4 If you uninstall compiz-kde4, those won't show up as problems in yast anymore Anders -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Anders Johansson wrote:
On Saturday 31 January 2009 14:37:00 Basil Chupin wrote:
Anders Johansson wrote:
On Saturday 31 January 2009 14:09:07 Basil Chupin wrote:
Including the other 80+ files which deleting compiz-kde4 wants to zap along with itself?
And which would those be? When I uninstalled it, I don't recall any non-compiz related dependencies
Anders
They are all listed in the message I posted to which you replied saying to delete compiz-kde4.
But those aren't dependencies of compiz-kde4, they are dependencies of kde 4.1, which yast suggests to downgrade to in order to satisfy the kde 4.1 deoendency of compiz-kde4
If you uninstall compiz-kde4, those won't show up as problems in yast anymore
Anders
Thanks, Anders, I'll look at all this again in the morning after some sleep because at the moment the mind is kinda confused. When I try to delete it using YaST's S/ware Manager the message comes back stating that a host of files will be altered to satisfy dependency. If I try to manually delete compiz-kde4 I get the message that compiz-decorator depends on compiz-kde4 but when I go to also delete *-decorator I am informed by rpm -e that decorator is not installed :-) . "The morning is always wiser than the evening" so I will look at this after some shut-eye :-) . Ciao. -- "I do not instruct the uninterested; I do not help those who fail to try. If I mention one corner of a subject and the pupil does not deduce therefrom the other three, I drop him." Confucius -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Saturday 31 January 2009 14:59:48 Basil Chupin wrote:
Thanks, Anders, I'll look at all this again in the morning after some sleep because at the moment the mind is kinda confused. When I try to delete it using YaST's S/ware Manager the message comes back stating that a host of files will be altered to satisfy dependency.
Which ones, and how does it suggest they be altered?
If I try to manually delete compiz-kde4 I get the message that compiz-decorator depends on compiz-kde4 but when I go to also delete *-decorator I am informed by rpm -e that decorator is not installed :-) .
Hm, I'd love to see your exact commands and the exact output you get. Copy/paste possibly?
"The morning is always wiser than the evening"
Good grief no, my brain doesn't start to work until 2pm at the earliest :) Anders -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Anders Johansson wrote:
On Saturday 31 January 2009 14:59:48 Basil Chupin wrote:
Thanks, Anders, I'll look at all this again in the morning after some sleep because at the moment the mind is kinda confused. When I try to delete it using YaST's S/ware Manager the message comes back stating that a host of files will be altered to satisfy dependency.
Which ones, and how does it suggest they be altered?
I have attached a screenshot of the list of these files (I assume that it will get thru here otherwise I'll have to send it to privately - the file is 186K big).
If I try to manually delete compiz-kde4 I get the message that compiz-decorator depends on compiz-kde4 but when I go to also delete *-decorator I am informed by rpm -e that decorator is not installed :-) .
Hm, I'd love to see your exact commands and the exact output you get. Copy/paste possibly?
I'll see if I can work out how to get this cut/paste done. I use mc and I don't think I can do a cut from the screen - but I'll see what else I may be able to try.
"The morning is always wiser than the evening"
Good grief no, my brain doesn't start to work until 2pm at the earliest :)
1400 hours! Is that all? I used to be a night-owl and didn't start functioning until around 1900 hours, didn't go to bed until 0300 - 0400 hours. But no longer :-( . Bedtime now is around 0000 - 0030 hours with the occasional push out to 0130 hours (if something interesting has to be done re oS :-) ). Ciao.
Anders
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Basil Chupin wrote:
Anders Johansson wrote:
On Saturday 31 January 2009 14:59:48 Basil Chupin wrote:
Thanks, Anders, I'll look at all this again in the morning after some sleep because at the moment the mind is kinda confused. When I try to delete it using YaST's S/ware Manager the message comes back stating that a host of files will be altered to satisfy dependency.
Which ones, and how does it suggest they be altered?
I have attached a screenshot of the list of these files (I assume that it will get thru here otherwise I'll have to send it to privately - the file is 186K big).
I see that the attachment did go thru. Last 'night' when I tried to delete with YaST compiz-kde4 I thought that I also got another screen showing at least one additional file which had to be "altered"- so I 'told' YaST to "Continue" with the deletion of compiz-kde4 in order to get that second message. Well, I didn't get that second message/screen and YaST started to delete and "alter" all the other files mentioned in the attachment! :-D Hitting the Abort button or trying to use the "X" to exit does zilch, nothing, NADA, so I used CTRL-ALT-ESC to terminate YaST's Online Update. But, of course, I simply was not quick enough and compiz-kde4 - plus a couple of other files mentioned in the attached list - got deleted. It now appears that the problem with respect to compiz-kde4 has been eliminated - albeit thru a mistake and not by design :-) .
If I try to manually delete compiz-kde4 I get the message that compiz-decorator depends on compiz-kde4 but when I go to also delete *-decorator I am informed by rpm -e that decorator is not installed :-) .
Hm, I'd love to see your exact commands and the exact output you get. Copy/paste possibly?
I'll see if I can work out how to get this cut/paste done. I use mc and I don't think I can do a cut from the screen - but I'll see what else I may be able to try.
Learn something everyday.......... I learnt a short time ago that one CAN highlight and then copy text shown on a command line in konsole. But trying to provide the result of the command I used is now academic; however the command which I did issue was "rpm -e compiz-kde4" which produced the error that compiz-decorator required "*-kde4" and after issuing the command "rpm -e compiz-decorator" I got, [full quote frim konsole]: error: package compiz-decorator is not installed Ciao. -- "I do not instruct the uninterested; I do not help those who fail to try. If I mention one corner of a subject and the pupil does not deduce therefrom the other three, I drop him." Confucius -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sunday 01 February 2009 05:34:34 Basil Chupin wrote:
I learnt a short time ago that one CAN highlight and then copy text shown on a command line in konsole.
But trying to provide the result of the command I used is now academic; however the command which I did issue was "rpm -e compiz-kde4" which produced the error that compiz-decorator required "*-kde4" and after issuing the command "rpm -e compiz-decorator" I got, [full quote frim konsole]:
error: package compiz-decorator is not installed
Yes, compiz-decorator is not a package, it is a property, something provided by a package. In this case, either compiz-kde4 or compiz-gnome. You can see this with rpm -q --whatprovides compiz-decorator However, zypper rm compiz will get rid of it all for you Anders -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Saturday 31 January 2009 07:37:00 am Basil Chupin wrote:
Anders Johansson wrote:
On Saturday 31 January 2009 14:09:07 Basil Chupin wrote:
Including the other 80+ files which deleting compiz-kde4 wants to zap along with itself?
And which would those be? When I uninstalled it, I don't recall any non-compiz related dependencies
Anders
They are all listed in the message I posted to which you replied saying to delete compiz-kde4.
Try to disable packman until you get base right.
"I do not instruct the uninterested; I do not help those who fail to try. If I mention one corner of a subject and the pupil does not deduce therefrom the other three, I drop him." Confucius
:-) Very liberal if teacher accepts any valid answer. With missing length of sides and shape, deduction is whatever one wants, as long it has 1+3 corners. IMHO, it was excuse to drop students that he didn't liked. -- Regards, Rajko -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Saturday 31 January 2009 05:55:45 am Basil Chupin wrote:
'rpm -e' comes back and states that the damn thing is not installed- when it is
How about cleaning databases? rpm --rebuilddb zypper clean -a When command rpm can't find package that is installed it is mess in its database, or the DB is OK, but package name is not correct. -- Regards, Rajko -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Rajko M. wrote:
On Saturday 31 January 2009 05:55:45 am Basil Chupin wrote:
'rpm -e' comes back and states that the damn thing is not installed- when it is
How about cleaning databases? rpm --rebuilddb zypper clean -a
When command rpm can't find package that is installed it is mess in its database, or the DB is OK, but package name is not correct.
Thanks for this. Did the rebuild and the cleanup. (However, still getting the error re compiz-kde4 -0.7.8 I mentioned in the previous msg :-) .) Ciao. -- "I do not instruct the uninterested; I do not help those who fail to try. If I mention one corner of a subject and the pupil does not deduce therefrom the other three, I drop him." Confucius -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Saturday 31 January 2009, Basil Chupin wrote:
Just to be sure, do not allow YaST/zypper (or even smart) to update your (32-bit) 11.1 installation of OpenOffice to the latest version - leave it at 3.0.0.9-1.11.
I allowed zypper to update it this morning and now I have one big f***-up, and lost the ability to run OpenOffice.
I've spent the past 9 hours trying to figure out how to get my working OO back and the only conclusion I have now come to is for me to use 'rpm -e OpenOffice*' and reinstall from the DVD (with the BuildService STABLE for OO *disabled* in the repos).
Now your mileage re this may vary and you may even have had no problems with YaST updating your OO on your system - which is fine. But if you are yet to update OO then watch out for the list of the dependency errors, and then simply do not attempt to update OO.
Urgh, urgh, urgh, there were wrong dependencies. The following steps worked for me: 1. Have the default OOo-3.0 from openSUSE-11.1 3. add the extra OpenOffice.org repository in YaST2 2. start "Software Management" in YaST2 3. select "OpenOffice_org" for update; agree to remove "OpenOffice_org-l10n-extras" and other packages to remove the conflict 4. select "OpenOffice_org-ure" to delete (popup menu when you press the right mouse button); agree to delete few more dependent packages 5. select "OpenOffice_org-libs-external" to delete 6. press the "accept" button; agree with the automatic changes I am going to improve dependencies of the OOo-3.0.1 packages to avoid these problems. It might take one or two days until the fixed packages appear in the installation source. Also I am not sure whether the first fix will be enough. You might watch and comment the progress at https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=471280 I am really sorry for all these troubles. It is pity that nobody reported it earlier. I have put OOo-3.0.1-beta1 into the OpenOffice_org:UNSTABLE repository before Christmas :-( I am really sorry, once again. Best Regards, Petr -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 02/02/2009 06:29 PM, Petr Mladek wrote:
Urgh, urgh, urgh, there were wrong dependencies.
The following steps worked for me:
1. Have the default OOo-3.0 from openSUSE-11.1 3. add the extra OpenOffice.org repository in YaST2
Do you mean the STABLE repo, or the EXTRA? I would assume STABLE.
2. start "Software Management" in YaST2 3. select "OpenOffice_org" for update; agree to remove "OpenOffice_org-l10n-extras" and other packages to remove the conflict 4. select "OpenOffice_org-ure" to delete (popup menu when you press the right mouse button); agree to delete few more dependent packages 5. select "OpenOffice_org-libs-external" to delete 6. press the "accept" button; agree with the automatic changes
Do you still have some 3.0.0.9 packages still installed? I only ask because I thought I have tried this and it did not work for me. Maybe some 3.0.0.9 package is still needed for some reason. You can see my package list and rpm -V for each package in the bug report and yet it did not work for me.
I am going to improve dependencies of the OOo-3.0.1 packages to avoid these problems. It might take one or two days until the fixed packages appear in the installation source. Also I am not sure whether the first fix will be enough.
You might watch and comment the progress at https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=471280
I am really sorry for all these troubles.
It is pity that nobody reported it earlier. I have put OOo-3.0.1-beta1 into the OpenOffice_org:UNSTABLE repository before Christmas :-(
I am really sorry, once again.
No problem. None of us are perfect either. ;-) I really appreciate all your work to package that huge beast.
Best Regards, Petr
-- Joe Morris Registered Linux user 231871 running openSUSE 11.1 x86_64 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Hi Joe, I am sorry for the late repply. I am ill and work just partially. On Monday 02 February 2009, Joe Morris wrote:
On 02/02/2009 06:29 PM, Petr Mladek wrote:
Urgh, urgh, urgh, there were wrong dependencies.
The following steps worked for me:
1. Have the default OOo-3.0 from openSUSE-11.1 3. add the extra OpenOffice.org repository in YaST2
Do you mean the STABLE repo, or the EXTRA? I would assume STABLE.
Yes, I meant the OpenOffice.org:STABLE repo.
2. start "Software Management" in YaST2 3. select "OpenOffice_org" for update; agree to remove "OpenOffice_org-l10n-extras" and other packages to remove the conflict 4. select "OpenOffice_org-ure" to delete (popup menu when you press the right mouse button); agree to delete few more dependent packages 5. select "OpenOffice_org-libs-external" to delete 6. press the "accept" button; agree with the automatic changes
Do you still have some 3.0.0.9 packages still installed? I only ask because I thought I have tried this and it did not work for me. Maybe some 3.0.0.9 package is still needed for some reason. You can see my package list and rpm -V for each package in the bug report and yet it did not work for me.
No 3.0.0.9 packages are needed with the version 3.0.1.2. All 3.0.0.9 packages should be updated or removed. It is possible that it does not work for you because you removed the 3.0.0.9 packages too late. I am afraid that it might have removed some compat symlinks from /usr/share to /usr/lib. The symlinks allows architecture independent packages to safe space on the installation sources. I would like to fix OOo to find these files in /usr/share directly in the future but it might need lots changes. The symlinks work fine in normal situations but there was a mess because of the broken dependencies this time :-( It works much better with the packages in the OpenOffice_org:UNSTABLE repository, see http://en.opensuse.org/Additional_YaST_Package_Repositories#OpenOffice.org_U... I have fixed it already on Monday. Unfortunately, the packages are still not available in the OpenOffice_org:STABLE for openSUSE-11.1-x86_64. The are some problems in BS to make them public, see https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=471280. I hope that they will be ready within next two days. It is a nightmare.
No problem. None of us are perfect either. ;-) I really appreciate all your work to package that huge beast.
Thanks a lot for understanding. -- Best Regards, Petr Mladek software developer --------------------------------------------------------------------- SUSE LINUX, s. r. o. e-mail: pmladek@suse.cz Lihovarská 1060/12 tel: +420 284 028 952 190 00 Prague 9 fax: +420 284 028 951 Czech Republic http://www.suse.cz/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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