[opensuse] I just read of a new font designed for coding.
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* Carlos E. R.
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http://sourcefoundry.org/hack/
How would I go about installing it? Do we have an rpm?
zypper -v in hack-font software.opensuse.org/search "hack-font" -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2017-09-18 15:10, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* Carlos E. R. <> [09-18-17 09:03]:
http://sourcefoundry.org/hack/
How would I go about installing it? Do we have an rpm?
zypper -v in hack-font
software.opensuse.org/search "hack-font"
I understood search is down. I used webpin to search for "hack", I did not know the name was "hack-font". Thanks. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 42.2 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar)
* Carlos E. R.
On 2017-09-18 15:10, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* Carlos E. R. <> [09-18-17 09:03]:
http://sourcefoundry.org/hack/
How would I go about installing it? Do we have an rpm?
zypper -v in hack-font
software.opensuse.org/search "hack-font"
I understood search is down.
it is back, I guess they have returned from week-end :) -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
It's in the hack-fonts package. Use `sudo zypper install hack-fonts`
in a terminal or install the package through YaST.
On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 9:00 AM, Carlos E. R.
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http://sourcefoundry.org/hack/
How would I go about installing it? Do we have an rpm?
- -- Cheers
Carlos E. R. (from 42.2 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar)
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On 2017-09-18 15:12, Noah Davis wrote:
It's in the hack-fonts package. Use `sudo zypper install hack-fonts` in a terminal or install the package through YaST.
Thanks, wonderful :-) [...] Huh! It is already installed. Then, contrary to the "news" I read, it is not new. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 42.2 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar)
On 09/18/2017 08:43 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
Thanks, wonderful :-)
[...]
Huh! It is already installed. Then, contrary to the "news" I read, it is not new.
From my comparison, it is just a slightly lighter variant of DejaVu Sans Mono. Not a bad font. I could see using it depending on the LCD and freetype hinting available. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.
On 2017-09-19 14:58, David C. Rankin wrote:
On 09/18/2017 08:43 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
Thanks, wonderful :-)
[...]
Huh! It is already installed. Then, contrary to the "news" I read, it is not new.
From my comparison, it is just a slightly lighter variant of DejaVu Sans Mono. Not a bad font. I could see using it depending on the LCD and freetype hinting available.
I tried a few fonts for my little coding, but there are so many fonts to choose from, that it is difficult. Looking at Lazarus, I see mine is using: -adobe-courier-medium-r-normal-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-iso10646-1 I'll try "hack" now. [...] The first thing I notice is that it is bigger, thicker. It is using size 10, I change to 9... I'm not sure I like the result, with thick strokes a small font doesn't look that right. I'll have to try more. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 42.2 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar)
Hello, On Tue, 19 Sep 2017, Carlos E. R. wrote:
I tried a few fonts for my little coding, but there are so many fonts to choose from, that it is difficult.
Looking at Lazarus, I see mine is using:
-adobe-courier-medium-r-normal-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-iso10646-1
I use -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--13-120-75-75-c-70-iso10646-1 for just about everything. Or GNU Unifont. HTH, -dnh -- Is it really hard to believe that the Chinese government would actively fund cyberterrorism? -- Deepak Jain Why not? Our government does, although they don't call it that: they call it Microsoft. -- Chris Adams -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 09/19/2017 09:31 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2017-09-19 14:58, David C. Rankin wrote:
On 09/18/2017 08:43 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
Thanks, wonderful :-)
[...]
Huh! It is already installed. Then, contrary to the "news" I read, it is not new.
From my comparison, it is just a slightly lighter variant of DejaVu Sans Mono. Not a bad font. I could see using it depending on the LCD and freetype hinting available.
I tried a few fonts for my little coding, but there are so many fonts to choose from, that it is difficult.
Looking at Lazarus, I see mine is using:
-adobe-courier-medium-r-normal-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-iso10646-1
I'll try "hack" now.
[...]
The first thing I notice is that it is bigger, thicker. It is using size 10, I change to 9... I'm not sure I like the result, with thick strokes a small font doesn't look that right. I'll have to try more.
You should try the misc-console-font. Mark -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Mark Hounschell composed on 2017-09-19 14:01 (UTC-0400):
Carlos E. R. wrote:
David C. Rankin wrote:
From my comparison, it is just a slightly lighter variant of DejaVu Sans Mono.
I wonder how our font settings differ? I find the differences between Hack and DVSM minimal, and nothing to do with stroke weight. "i" is different, and "0' is different. That's all I see. With such trivial differences I wonder why anyone bothered to create or package Hack. :-p http://fm.no-ip.com/Auth/Font/fonts-face-samplesMh.html
Not a bad font. I could see using it depending on the LCD and freetype hinting available.
I tried a few fonts for my little coding, but there are so many fonts to choose from, that it is difficult.
Without a convenient extended side-by-side or over/under comparison mechanism I don't know how people can make an reasoned choice other than just using the default.
Looking at Lazarus, I see mine is using:
-adobe-courier-medium-r-normal-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-iso10646-1
I'll try "hack" now.
[...]
The first thing I notice is that it is bigger, thicker. It is using size 10, I change to 9... I'm not sure I like the result, with thick strokes a small font doesn't look that right. I'll have to try more. Courier was nice back when the LaserJet was a brand new product in 1984. That font managed to functionally disappear. Since the following decade or so the only common monospace font I like less than Courier or Courier New at any given actual physical size is Nimbus Mono L, an apparent Courier clone.
Take a look at that URL above and http://fm.no-ip.com/Auth/Font/fonts-comps-linuxmonoFate.html and http://fm.no-ip.com/Auth/Font/fonts-comps-linuxmono.html and you might find a face you like better than you thought, or one that you hadn't even thought about.
You should try the misc-console-font.
Ugh! It annoys me that this (disliked; hard-dependency that blocks other updates if zypper locked) keeps getting rebuilt and re-updated. I only ever use it until I remember it's the default in Konsole3 and change it to use the system monospace, which I set globally to Droid Sans Mono. The long standing openSUSE global setting to prefer the significantly smaller (at any given px size) than average (Vista; non-FOSS) Consolas to all other monospace, including the relatively newly determined openSUSE "optimal" Source Code Pro, is sad. Consolas is very annoying, as when installed, it makes an overabundance of monospace web fonts ever smaller still than the typically smaller than proportional size that browser settings default to. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2017-09-20 05:37, Felix Miata wrote:
Mark Hounschell composed on 2017-09-19 14:01 (UTC-0400):
Carlos E. R. wrote:
David C. Rankin wrote:
From my comparison, it is just a slightly lighter variant of DejaVu Sans Mono.
I wonder how our font settings differ? I find the differences between Hack and DVSM minimal, and nothing to do with stroke weight. "i" is different, and "0' is different. That's all I see. With such trivial differences I wonder why anyone bothered to create or package Hack. :-p
Well, for coding, differentiating i, l, and 1, is important.
I see there that the hack font is certainly thicker than dejavu sans mono. I also notice "Source Code Pro". I like it.
Not a bad font. I could see using it depending on the LCD and freetype hinting available.
I tried a few fonts for my little coding, but there are so many fonts to choose from, that it is difficult.
Without a convenient extended side-by-side or over/under comparison mechanism I don't know how people can make an reasoned choice other than just using the default.
Right. But what I mean is that it is impossible to choose a font in, say, LO, because the drop list is infinite! Many of the choices I think are useless, just games. It would be preferable to have a dialog with filters for criteria, and obtain then the matching drop list.
Looking at Lazarus, I see mine is using:
-adobe-courier-medium-r-normal-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-iso10646-1
I'll try "hack" now.
[...]
The first thing I notice is that it is bigger, thicker. It is using size 10, I change to 9... I'm not sure I like the result, with thick strokes a small font doesn't look that right. I'll have to try more.
Courier was nice back when the LaserJet was a brand new product in 1984. That font managed to functionally disappear. Since the following decade or so the only common monospace font I like less than Courier or Courier New at any given actual physical size is Nimbus Mono L, an apparent Courier clone.
I needed, IIRC, to have a fixed font that was not to big and easily readable at small sizes. Ie, lot of content in a single page, and easy to read.
Take a look at that URL above and http://fm.no-ip.com/Auth/Font/fonts-comps-linuxmonoFate.html and http://fm.no-ip.com/Auth/Font/fonts-comps-linuxmono.html and you might find a face you like better than you thought, or one that you hadn't even thought about.
I have set now "Source Code Pro", but I have to actually try it for a bit and see how it fills. Thanks :-) Suggestion for your page: Have the font name at the left, and always with the same font. At the right have a comparison text. Similar to what you do on your first link, for instance. having the font name using always the same font makes easier to find a font name in the list.
You should try the misc-console-font.
Ugh! It annoys me that this (disliked; hard-dependency that blocks other updates if zypper locked) keeps getting rebuilt and re-updated. I only ever use it until I remember it's the default in Konsole3 and change it to use the system monospace, which I set globally to Droid Sans Mono.
The long standing openSUSE global setting to prefer the significantly smaller (at any given px size) than average (Vista; non-FOSS) Consolas to all other monospace, including the relatively newly determined openSUSE "optimal" Source Code Pro, is sad. Consolas is very annoying, as when installed, it makes an overabundance of monospace web fonts ever smaller still than the typically smaller than proportional size that browser settings default to.
I don't remember what setting I did... -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 42.2 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar)
On 09/19/2017 10:37 PM, Felix Miata wrote:
I wonder how our font settings differ? I find the differences between Hack and DVSM minimal, and nothing to do with stroke weight. "i" is different, and "0' is different. That's all I see. With such trivial differences I wonder why anyone bothered to create or package Hack. :-p
I build my own libfreetype6, for certain aesthetic purposes... :p -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 09/19/2017 08:31 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
I tried a few fonts for my little coding, but there are so many fonts to choose from, that it is difficult.
Looking at Lazarus, I see mine is using:
-adobe-courier-medium-r-normal-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-iso10646-1
I'll try "hack" now.
I've had a side hobby in C (which itself is a wonderful game of chess to play, and play well), and I've tried about ever fixed font under the sun (at least 30-40 different mono fonts). I also use a dark background and light font (http://paste.opensuse.org/5884320) as it is much easier on the eyes rather than having a bright light shining in your face the entire time. In trying just about ever mono font, DejaVu Sans Mono 8pt is by far my preferred choice. However, if I were working on a light background with a dark font, then something a bit lighter like hack may be the better choice. Here is a short list of the mono fonts I currently have: (only Regular variant shown) DejaVuSansMono.ttf DejaVu Sans Mono - Book DroidSansMono.ttf Droid Sans Mono - Regular Hack-Regular.ttf Hack - Regular LiberationMono-Regular.ttf Liberation Mono - Regular NotoSans-Regular.ttf Noto Sans - Regular SourceCodePro-Regular.ttf Source Code Pro - Regular -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.
Carlos E. R. wrote:
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http://sourcefoundry.org/hack/
How would I go about installing it? Do we have an rpm?
Download the ttf file, copy to /usr/share/fonts/truetype/ -- Per Jessen, Zürich (14.4°C) http://www.cloudsuisse.com/ - your owncloud, hosted in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Je 18 Sep 2017 15:00:58 Carlos E. R. skribis:
This is already the default font in either KDE or openSUSE Tumbleweed, I believe. Moreover, it's only a prettier version of Deja Vu Sans Mono :) -- Carmen Bianca Bakker en eo fy nl
On 2017-09-18 20:09, Carmen Bianca Bakker wrote:
Je 18 Sep 2017 15:00:58 Carlos E. R. skribis:
This is already the default font in either KDE or openSUSE Tumbleweed, I believe.
Moreover, it's only a prettier version of Deja Vu Sans Mono :)
My attention was on it because of a recent article on a Spanish web site. Seems they are outdated. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 42.2 x86_64 "Malachite" (Minas Tirith))
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