On Monday 23 October 2006 12:45, PerfectReign wrote:

Yes, it is somewhat more pleasing to look at. I agree! They've made some nice changes to the look and feel. I'm sure, however, some SDI purist out there will tell me I'm wrong for liking the app since it uses tabs and not separate windows which I can spread across all my multiple desktops. :)

But you can have it either way.... Your choice!

Andreas Jaeger writes:

"PerfectReign" writes:

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For those interested, FF 2.0 is now out. It was supposed to be out tomorrow, but for those who can't wait...

http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/2.0/linux-i686/...

...I'm downloading it now.

And openSUSE 10.2 has already RC3 and will soon have the final version ;-)

I should have added: Beta 1 is due this week ;-) Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, aj@suse.de, http://www.suse.de/~aj/ SUSE Linux Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126

Basil, On Monday 23 October 2006 18:11, Basil Chupin wrote:

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And openSUSE 10.2 has already RC3 and will soon have the final version ;-)

I should have added: Beta 1 is due this week ;-)

Andreas

Ce? Excuse, but what's the point of releasing a Beta when there is already a RC3?

He means Beta 1 of openSUSE 10.2. RRS

On Tue, 24 Oct 2006, Basil Chupin wrote:

Randall R Schulz wrote:

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On Monday 23 October 2006 18:11, Basil Chupin wrote:

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And openSUSE 10.2 has already RC3 and will soon have the final version ;-) I should have added: Beta 1 is due this week ;-)

Andreas Ce? Excuse, but what's the point of releasing a Beta when there is already a RC3?

He means Beta 1 of openSUSE 10.2.

I know what he meant.

Beta1 is scheduled for this coming Thursday, 26th, but you can read what Andreas said about RC3.

I read it as RC3 of Firefox is in Beta 1 of openSUSE 10.2. that will be released later this week. -- Boyd Gerber ZENEZ 1042 East Fort Union #135, Midvale Utah 84047

On Mon, Oct 23, 2006 at 09:27:20PM -0600, Boyd Lynn Gerber wrote:

On Tue, 24 Oct 2006, Basil Chupin wrote:

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Randall R Schulz wrote:

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On Monday 23 October 2006 18:11, Basil Chupin wrote:

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And openSUSE 10.2 has already RC3 and will soon have the final version ;-) I should have added: Beta 1 is due this week ;-)

Andreas Ce? Excuse, but what's the point of releasing a Beta when there is already a RC3?

He means Beta 1 of openSUSE 10.2.

I know what he meant.

Beta1 is scheduled for this coming Thursday, 26th, but you can read what Andreas said about RC3.

I read it as RC3 of Firefox is in Beta 1 of openSUSE 10.2. that will be released later this week.

Well, it was updated to final 2.0 in our buildsystem, so you might see 2.0 in openSUSE 10.2 Beta1. ciao, Marcus

On Mon, October 23, 2006 11:14 pm, Roger Oberholtzer wrote:

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Well, it was updated to final 2.0 in our buildsystem, so you might see 2.0 in openSUSE 10.2 Beta1.

Perhaps also in the mozilla repository on software.opensuse.org for 10.1?

Do you mean, here? http://software.opensuse.org/download/mozilla/SUSE_Linux_10.1/i586/ I didn't even know that existed. -- Kai Ponte www.perfectreign.com || www.4thedadz.com remember - a turn signal is a statement, not a request

Roger Oberholtzer wrote:

On Tue, 2006-10-24 at 07:45 -0700, PerfectReign wrote:

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On Mon, October 23, 2006 11:14 pm, Roger Oberholtzer wrote:

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On Tue, 2006-10-24 at 06:22 +0200, Marcus Meissner wrote:

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Well, it was updated to final 2.0 in our buildsystem, so you might see 2.0 in openSUSE 10.2 Beta1. Perhaps also in the mozilla repository on software.opensuse.org for 10.1? Do you mean, here?

http://software.opensuse.org/download/mozilla/SUSE_Linux_10.1/i586/

I didn't even know that existed.

Bingo. It would be nice if 2.0 got there.

You know, it's dead simple to "install" v2.0--or any other version--without waiting for a rpm from SUSE. You can "install" it without touching your existing installation of FF which comes with SUSE. Let me know if you want to know how and I'll repeat what I posted here a few years ago about how to do it. Cheers. -- I'm dangerous when I know what I'm doing.

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On 10/24/06, Basil Chupin wrote:

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You know, it's dead simple to "install" v2.0--or any other version--without waiting for a rpm from SUSE. You can "install" it without touching your existing installation of FF which comes with SUSE.

Let me know if you want to know how and I'll repeat what I posted here a few years ago about how to do it.

please, do

I hope that I haven't missed too much. If I have or something is not clear then let me know. BEGIN This assumes that you are the only user of the computer and that a copy of Firefox was already installed during the installation of OpenSUSE 10.1. It also assumes that you have at least a rudimentary knowledge of how to use Midnight Comander (mc) - one of the most essentials tools in SUSE (but not available in distros like kubuntu 6.10!). All operations are performed as <user> and not as root. Go to- http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/2.0/linux-i686/... and download the tar.gz file. (If you want to use the very latest, bleeding edge version which is work-in-progress but still more than usable then go to- http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/latest-mozilla1.8/fir... and download the nightly build (which is what I normally do every day).) Open a terminal window (click on the TV icon bottom, left in the quick-launch tray) and launch Midnight Commander by typing mc . In your /home/<user>/ directory create a directory called /temp0. (You can call it whatever you want but this is what I call mine.) Copy the downloaded tar.gz file into this /temp0 directory. Highlight this file (click on it) and press the F2 key; select the 'z' option and either press <RETURN> or double click on the 'z'. This will untar the file and put everything into another directory. Go into this newly created directory - for example, firefox-2.0 - under /temp0 and there will be a directory called /firefox. /firefox contains all the executables for firefox. (All settings/themes/extensions are stored in /.mozilla.) You should now have under /temp0 a directory /firefox-2.0/firefox after you have un-tared the downloaded file. This /firefox directory (and its contents) you will move shortly to your main /home/<user> directory using the F6 key, but before doing this you need, for safety's sake, to backup your /.mozilla directory just in case something goes wrong. If you have another HD installed which has a partition formatted in a Linux format then copy the whole of /.mozilla there. Use the F5 key in mc to do this. Otherwise create, say, another temporary directory in /home/<user>--eg, temp1-- and copy /.mozilla into it. Remember, this backup is only a precautionary measure because normally nothing goes wrong with the installation of the new version of Firefox. But "Assumption is the mother of all cockups". Once you have done the backup of /.mozilla directory, MOVE the /firefox directory (/firefox-2.0/firefox) into /home/<user> using the F6 key in mc. NOTE: If you already have a /firefox directory from an earlier installation (eg, from the daily nightlies) then either DELETE this old /firefox directory or MOVE it to wherever you backed-up the /.mozilla directory a few minutes ago--again this is only a precautionary measure. Alright, now you have moved the /firefox-2.0/firefox directory to /home/<user> and because you are doing this installation for the first time you now need to set things up so that you can run Firefox from the desktop. Either exit mc and the terminal window to get back to your desktop or go to another desktop (click on another desktop icon in the system tray). Right-click on an empty part of the desktop and in the dropdown menu select Create New->Link to Application. Name the application Firefox and click on the icon; in the menu which appears select Other Icons then Browse and browse to /home/<user>/firefox/icons and select mozilla128.png. Click on the Application tab and in the Command box Browse to /home/<user>/firefox and select 'firefox' (the file has a black square inside the page icon next to it). Click OK, and you will be back on the desktop with the new Firefox icon showing somewhere around the middle of the screen. This is icon you will now use to start (the new version of) Firefox. DO NOT CLICK ON THIS ICON TO START (THE NEW) FIREFOX UNLESS YOU HAVE MADE A BACKUP OF /HOME/<USER>/.MOZILLA as mentioned above; starting the new Firefox if it is a version/generation-jump may alter your current settings in the current /.mozilla directory. There is on last thing to be done before starting Firefox. Open again a terminal window and start mc (Midnight Commander). In /.mozilla there should be a a directory called /plugins. If there isn't one then create one (press F7 and type in plugins ). Enter this directory in the lefthand panel of mc. TAB across to the righthand panel of mc and navigate to /usr/lib/browser-plugins directory. COPY all the plugins shown there to the /home/<user>/.mozilla/plugins directory. Do this by pressing CTRL and the + key, all the plugins will be highlighted in yellow; press F5 and they will be copied to the plugins directory under /.mozilla. You are now ready to run the new version of Firefox. Exit mc (F10) and exit terminal window. (To save typing etc you can simply click on the X (top, righthand), the 'normal' way to exit an application.) Click on the (new) Firefox icon on the desktop and Firefox will start up. Usually, but not always--this depends on how much of a difference there is between the original installed version of Firefox and the new one--when the new Firefox starts it will check to see if the extensions and themes you are using are compatible with the version of Firefox you just installed, and--if you are already connected to the Internet--it will also check and download from mozilla.org any upgrades to the extensions/themes. If everything was installed correctly, the new Firefox will work without problems. I install daily the nightly releases and over the years that I have been doing this I have only had 2 or 3 'bummers' and had to revert back to the previous night's version. (This is where doing a backup of the /.mozilla and /firefox directories in /home/<user> come in handy.) To check that all the plugins are in place, when Firefox starts, type "about:plugins" [without the quotes] in the URL box. This will bring up on the screen all the plugins which are currently installed. If you think there are something wrong here then you need to check the contents of the /.mozilla/plugins directory and possibly adjust any symlinks, for example. That's all there is to installing a tar.gz copy of Firefox from mozilla.org rather than wait for an rpm to be produced. However, now we have a slight 'blotch' on the desktop: we have 2 icons for Firefox- the 'old' and the 'new' Firefox, and more than likely both have the same icon picture. The obvious thing to do is to simply delete (send to the Wastebin) the old icon and retain the new one. I suggest doing this otherwise you may get confused and start the 'wrong' version of Firefox which may affect/reset the settings stored in /.mozilla. NOTE: deleting the old icon for Firefox does not remove the original version of Firefox (which is still installed in /usr/lib/firefox) and if you want to fallback to this old version then all you have to do is to alter the link (command line) in the desktop icon for Firefox to point to /usr/lib/firefox. NOTE: if you decide to completely delete the old Firefox (installed during the installation of SUSE) then you have to do it in the normal way, for example through YOU/smart/zmd/or-whatever. But do NOT do this until you install the new Firefox as described above otherwise you will/may lose the data in the /usr/lib/browser-plugins directory which needs to be copied to /.mozilla/plugins! --------------------------------------- The above steps are also applicable to installing Thunderbird--except that you do not have a plugins directory to worry about in Thunderbird. Also, Thunderbird is not installed as part of the installation of SUSE so you can simply install the latest version of Thunderbird from mozilla.org as described above and once you actually start Thunderbird from the desktop it will create the /.thunderbird directory in your /home/<user> directory with a brand new profile ready to be populated. I also install everyday the latest nightly build of Thunderbird. Installing both Firefox and Thunderbird takes less than 1 1/2 minutes once both have been downloaded from mozilla.org. END Cheers. -- I'm dangerous when I know what I'm doing.

On Tue, October 24, 2006 11:51 pm, John Andersen wrote:

On Tuesday 24 October 2006 22:44, Basil Chupin wrote:

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You know, it's dead simple to "install" v2.0--or

After seeing your 36 paragraph description I have come to the conclusion that you and I work from fundamentally different definitions of "dead simple".

LOL! I just extracted the files to my /home/kai/apps/firefox folder. I then created a shortcut in the Geeko Menu under browsers. I made a second shortcut on the desktop. I then did the symbolic link thingy with the *.* to get my plugins working. I now have it running as my primary browser. -- Kai Ponte www.perfectreign.com || www.4thedadz.com remember - a turn signal is a statement, not a request

On Wednesday 25 October 2006 07:14, Felix Miata wrote:

On 06/10/24 22:51 (GMT-0800) John Andersen apparently typed:

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You know, it's dead simple to "install" v2.0--or

After seeing your 36 paragraph description I have come to the conclusion that you and I work from fundamentally different definitions of "dead simple".

The detail he went into and the inclusion of the mc tutuorial did make it look rather vexing.

Here's a condensed version that will give you a usable FF:

1-backup ~/.mozilla 2-download the mozilla.org tar.gz archive 3-extract the archive to your choice of location 4-run <installation-location>/firefox

That's all it takes. Everything else adds convenience and/or explains in detail how to go about adding those conveniences, like creating a menu entry or desktop shortcut.

I suggest doing the following instead:

1-backup ~/.mozilla 2-download the mozilla.org tar.gz archive 3-extract the archive to your choice of location (mine is /usr/local/) 4-run <installation-location>/firefox -profilemanager (to create an additional profile to be used instead of the default profile) 5-create new menu and/or desktop shortcut entries by copying the existing firefox entry(s) and editing appropriately using '-P profilename' as a startup parameter. 6-run it

Using mc to do it all just makes it quick and easy, for it treats an archive as if it were an ordinary directory or loop mounted iso file. I can download a nightly build on my fast cable connection and extract it all in about 60 seconds or less with mc. The wget is always in recent command history from the last fetch.

Menu entries and desktop shortcuts can also be created and modified with mc's easy to use internal editor.

People who never use mc do a lot of things the harder way. -- "The Lord is my strength and my shield; my heart trusts in him, and I am helped." Psalm 28:7 NIV

Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409

Felix Miata *** http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/

I thought that simply using the left and right click features of konqueror could do *all* these things graphically in a scaringly windoze-like manner!!! but what i really want to know about 2.0 is if it can do 64 bit plugins.. d.

At 05:42 PM 10/25/06, Fred A. Miller wrote:

On Wednesday 25 October 2006 2:51 am, John Andersen wrote:

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You know, it's dead simple to "install" v2.0--or

After seeing your 36 paragraph description I have come to the conclusion that you and I work from fundamentally different definitions of "dead simple".

Hehehehehe.....good one. It's not all that hard, really. I wonder, however, why 2.0 still isn't available for update via the mirrors.

Probably because its not an update, its a new release. I once read (on this list I think), that only updates to software included in SUSE release are included; new releases are not.

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Probably because its not an update, its a new release. I once read (on this list I think), that only updates to software included in SUSE release are included; new releases are not.

I don't know about new releases, but since the last update to my zmd, I receive updates for everything I have installed, even those which were not included in the release. -- ED --

Depends on what repositories you have enabled. The ones for SUSE releases will only contain security and such fixes. Not new releases. However, there are also repositories with new things. Like KDE. There is also a Mozilla repository that is for new releases. It would seem fully consistent to put the 2.0 release there. But that gets back to a question I posted a few weeks back: how do you find out who is responsible for a given repository? I would not even know who to contact to offer help/testing to keep a repository up-to-date or report problems. -- Roger Oberholtzer

John Andersen wrote:

On Tuesday 24 October 2006 22:44, Basil Chupin wrote:

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You know, it's dead simple to "install" v2.0--or

After seeing your 36 paragraph description I have come to the conclusion that you and I work from fundamentally different definitions of "dead simple".

No, that's not the problem. The installation is dead simple; the putting down on paper the steps to take to do the dead simple install, and aimed at 'newbies', is not that simple. Cheers. -- I'm dangerous when I know what I'm doing.

On Tue, October 24, 2006 11:29 am, Stan Glasoe wrote:

On Monday 23 October 2006 22:54, Carl William Spitzer IV wrote:

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For those interested, FF 2.0 is now out. It was supposed to be out tomorrow, but for those who can't wait...

http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/2.0/linux- i686/en-US/

...I'm downloading it now.

I'm getting kind of tired of Opera, as it just doesn't do things

On Mon, 2006-10-23 at 08:01 -0700, PerfectReign wrote: the

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way I want. FF - even though it looks like a crappy GTK+ app - just works better.

http://www.internetpei.com/balls/

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Seems this site no longer works as it does under firefox 1.5.0.x. It needs an updated jre which though a rpm gives me dependency issues under Suse 9.2

Ill have to test under 10.0. But for now it seems not to be ready for prime time.

CWSIV

You need to do a symlink from /usr/lib/browser-plugins/libjavaplugin_oji.so to wherever you've installed Firefox 2.0 and its plugins directory.

Yes, exactly. Stan - or others - how do I globally symbolicaly link the default plugins directory to my new one? For example, I have a bunch of plugins (including Java) in /usr/lib/broweser-plugins I did a symbolic link to java by going to the /home/kai/apps/firefox/plugins directory and typing ln -s /usr/lib/browser-plugins/libjavaplugin_oji.so How do I get the rest? -- Kai Ponte www.perfectreign.com || www.4thedadz.com remember - a turn signal is a statement, not a request

On Tue, October 24, 2006 2:45 pm, Stan Glasoe wrote:

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You need to do a symlink from /usr/lib/browser-plugins/libjavaplugin_oji.so to wherever you've installed Firefox 2.0 and its plugins directory.

Yes, exactly.

Stan - or others - how do I globally symbolicaly link the default plugins directory to my new one?

For example, I have a bunch of plugins (including Java) in /usr/lib/broweser-plugins

I did a symbolic link to java by going to the /home/kai/apps/firefox/plugins directory and typing ln -s /usr/lib/browser-plugins/libjavaplugin_oji.so

How do I get the rest?

Kai Ponte

The same way - manually in a konsole window.

Per user: cd ~/.mozilla/plugins ln -s /usr/lib/browser-plugins/ and use tab completion to pick the ones you want, one at a time, then press Enter.

Ahh, okay. I had looked and didn't see there a method to ln to a whole directory. Cool. I've got FF 2.0 running under my user with all plugins working now. -- Kai Ponte www.perfectreign.com || www.4thedadz.com remember - a turn signal is a statement, not a request

On Tuesday 24 October 2006 16:22, stephan beal wrote:

On Tuesday 24 October 2006 23:45, Stan Glasoe wrote:

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Per user: cd ~/.mozilla/plugins ln -s /usr/lib/browser-plugins/ and use tab completion to pick the ones you want, one at a time, then press Enter.

If you want them all, then instead of using tab completion do:

cd ~/.mozilla/plugins ln -s /usr/lib/browser-plugins/*.* .

Can 2.0 use plugins from /usr/lib64/browser-plugins?

On Tue, 2006-10-24 at 13:29 -0500, Stan Glasoe wrote:

You need to do a symlink from /usr/lib/browser-plugins/libjavaplugin_oji.so to wherever you've installed Firefox 2.0 and its plugins directory.

Thanks just a different location in 9.2 its under the /usr/lib/firefox/ folder. -- ___ _ _ _ ____ _ _ _ | | | | [__ | | | |___ |_|_| ___] | \/

I got firefox 2.0 working on my mac. I had to figure out how to reinstall it. To do that I had to uninstall it. That's easy. 1. move the firefox-world to the trash 2. move this folder to the trash: ~/Library/Application Support/Firefox/Profiles/xxxxxxxx.default/ Then I walked through the 2.0 install again. Then I added a lot fewer add-ons this time around. Now firefox 2.0 works on my Mac! I'll pound on it to see if anything breaks. -Dan On 10/25/06, Dan Bikle wrote:

Well,

I installed it on my Mac.

I also installed a bunch of add-ons that looked interesting.

Then I restarted it.

It runs but ignores anything I type into the URL window.

If I click on a link, it will go there.

But, I do need to be able to type in a URL.

So, I shut it down.

I fired up my old copy of Firefox 1.5.0.7

It works but it has all of the add-ons that I wanted to be installed in 2.0.

And, it runs really slow.

I hope they fix 2.0; I really like my old version 1.5.0.7 Firefox.

-Dan

On 10/23/06, PerfectReign wrote:

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For those interested, FF 2.0 is now out. It was supposed to be out tomorrow, but for those who can't wait...

http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/2.0/linux-i686/...

...I'm downloading it now.

I'm getting kind of tired of Opera, as it just doesn't do things the way I want. FF - even though it looks like a crappy GTK+ app - just works better.

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