Possibility to get important changes since 10.0 RC1?
Dear Suse-People, I can understand your decision not to release the internal Release Candidates RC2 and so on for public. I think in this hot phase of the release cycle, you guys have much more important things to do. But I have one question: Is it possible to get only the MOST important fixes and packages since RC1? To make it clear: I don't mean a complete release, but I mean updated packages which fixed critical bugs or important packages like kernel and so on. Is it possible to make this packages available for public? How about putting them in Yast Online Update? Or, if this is not possible, what about releasing them inofficially in the apt-repositary "suse-people"? IIRC, in Beta-phase there were some updates through YOU, even for RC1 there was a new kernel for short time while currently all corresponding directories are empty. Thank for thinking about it Christoph Weidmann
Christoph Weidmann <c_weidmann@web.de> writes:
Dear Suse-People,
I can understand your decision not to release the internal Release Candidates RC2 and so on for public. I think in this hot phase of the release cycle, you guys have much more important things to do. But I have one question: Is it possible to get only the MOST important fixes and packages since RC1? To make it clear: I don't mean a complete release, but I mean updated packages which fixed critical bugs or important packages like kernel and so on.
Is it possible to make this packages available for public? How about putting them in Yast Online Update? Or, if this is not possible, what about releasing them inofficially in the apt-repositary "suse-people"? IIRC, in Beta-phase there were some updates through YOU, even for RC1 there was a new kernel for short time while currently all corresponding directories are empty.
Hi Christoph, for 10.1 we're planning to release every RC - but I think of only release delta ISOs to not put too much burden on this for our ftp mirrors. We sometimes do two RCs on a day and a full public release takes time... The kernel is out there already, you can get the current kernel of the day from ftp.suse.com/pub/projects/kernel/kotd/{i386,x86_64,ppc}/ The final RC is still going through some final review internally and we're going to ship the goldmaster on the 6th of october as announced. If there are a really small number of critical packages that are needed (not much more than 10), then tell me the list and I upload them tomorrow. A full list is something that we cannot do right now but like to do for 10.1... Cheers, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, aj@suse.de, http://www.suse.de/~aj SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126
Hello, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
If there are a really small number of critical packages that are needed (not much more than 10), then tell me the list and I upload them tomorrow.
I would vote for Xen and the related YaST module, as I have never seen it working with 10.0... Bye, Peter
2005/9/20, Peter Czanik <pczanik@fang.fa.gau.hu>:
Hello,
Andreas Jaeger wrote:
If there are a really small number of critical packages that are needed (not much more than 10), then tell me the list and I upload them tomorrow.
I would vote for Xen and the related YaST module, as I have never seen it working with 10.0... Bye, Peter
Andreas, perhaps could be better that you decide wish package are important, i mean wish important package had critical bugs that have been repair for RC2 ( kernel, x11, kde-base, etc ). pd: Excuse my english please. -- Marcel Mourguiart
Marcel Mourguiart <mourguiart@gmail.com> writes:
Andreas, perhaps could be better that you decide wish package are important, i mean wish important package had critical bugs that have been repair for RC2 ( kernel, x11, kde-base, etc ).
The kernel is the only critical ones that I remember and that one is out...
pd: Excuse my english please.
you're welcome - most of us aren't native speakers... Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, aj@suse.de, http://www.suse.de/~aj SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126
Am Dienstag, 20. September 2005 19:33 schrieb Andreas Jaeger:
Christoph Weidmann <c_weidmann@web.de> writes:
Dear Suse-People,
I can understand your decision not to release the internal Release Candidates RC2 and so on for public. I think in this hot phase of the release cycle, you guys have much more important things to do. But I have one question: Is it possible to get only the MOST important fixes and packages since RC1? To make it clear: I don't mean a complete release, but I mean updated packages which fixed critical bugs or important packages like kernel and so on.
Is it possible to make this packages available for public? How about putting them in Yast Online Update? Or, if this is not possible, what about releasing them inofficially in the apt-repositary "suse-people"? IIRC, in Beta-phase there were some updates through YOU, even for RC1 there was a new kernel for short time while currently all corresponding directories are empty.
Hi Christoph,
for 10.1 we're planning to release every RC - but I think of only release delta ISOs to not put too much burden on this for our ftp mirrors. We sometimes do two RCs on a day and a full public release takes time...
Hi Andreas, as I've mentioned above, I understand that releasing every RC isn't possible at this moment. You make a great Job and I didn't want to disturb :). Howewer, releasing more things to public in 10.1 release cycle sounds like a very good thing.
The kernel is out there already, you can get the current kernel of the day from ftp.suse.com/pub/projects/kernel/kotd/{i386,x86_64,ppc}/
Ah, ok. I always thought that kotd is much more bleeding egde and experimental than the stable kernel in RCx and final. I thought kotd will follow every new version of vanilla-kernel and every included patches while kernels like 2.6.13-8-default and its not released successors are for stabilizing a fix snapshot.
The final RC is still going through some final review internally and we're going to ship the goldmaster on the 6th of october as announced.
If there are a really small number of critical packages that are needed (not much more than 10), then tell me the list and I upload them tomorrow. A full list is something that we cannot do right now but like to do for 10.1...
If it's possible, I would like to get the recent hal and powersave packages (because of bug # 116445). I submitted a bug some hours ago which is very important für me (#118157), but currently it's not fixed. If it's marked as fixed, I will mail you again, is it ok? In my opinion, RC1 is doing very well, so I think the most other changed packages are not affecting me.
Cheers, Andreas
Thanks Christoph
Christoph Weidmann <c_weidmann@web.de> writes:
Am Dienstag, 20. September 2005 19:33 schrieb Andreas Jaeger:
Christoph Weidmann <c_weidmann@web.de> writes:
Dear Suse-People,
I can understand your decision not to release the internal Release Candidates RC2 and so on for public. I think in this hot phase of the release cycle, you guys have much more important things to do. But I have one question: Is it possible to get only the MOST important fixes and packages since RC1? To make it clear: I don't mean a complete release, but I mean updated packages which fixed critical bugs or important packages like kernel and so on.
Is it possible to make this packages available for public? How about putting them in Yast Online Update? Or, if this is not possible, what about releasing them inofficially in the apt-repositary "suse-people"? IIRC, in Beta-phase there were some updates through YOU, even for RC1 there was a new kernel for short time while currently all corresponding directories are empty.
Hi Christoph,
for 10.1 we're planning to release every RC - but I think of only release delta ISOs to not put too much burden on this for our ftp mirrors. We sometimes do two RCs on a day and a full public release takes time...
Hi Andreas,
as I've mentioned above, I understand that releasing every RC isn't possible at this moment. You make a great Job and I didn't want to disturb :). Howewer, releasing more things to public in 10.1 release cycle sounds like a very good thing.
The kernel is out there already, you can get the current kernel of the day from ftp.suse.com/pub/projects/kernel/kotd/{i386,x86_64,ppc}/
Ah, ok. I always thought that kotd is much more bleeding egde and experimental than the stable kernel in RCx and final. I thought kotd will follow every new version of vanilla-kernel and every included patches while kernels like 2.6.13-8-default and its not released successors are for stabilizing a fix snapshot.
No, kotd is slower here right now...
The final RC is still going through some final review internally and we're going to ship the goldmaster on the 6th of october as announced.
If there are a really small number of critical packages that are needed (not much more than 10), then tell me the list and I upload them tomorrow. A full list is something that we cannot do right now but like to do for 10.1...
If it's possible, I would like to get the recent hal and powersave packages (because of bug # 116445). I submitted a bug some hours ago which is very important für me (#118157), but currently it's not fixed. If it's marked as fixed, I will mail you again, is it ok?
In my opinion, RC1 is doing very well, so I think the most other changed packages are not affecting me.
Ok, I just started uploading some packages to: ftp.suse.com/pub/people/aj/10.0-Extra Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, aj@suse.de, http://www.suse.de/~aj SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126
Am Mittwoch, 21. September 2005 14:38 schrieb Andreas Jaeger:
Christoph Weidmann <c_weidmann@web.de> writes:
If it's possible, I would like to get the recent hal and powersave packages (because of bug # 116445). I submitted a bug some hours ago which is very important für me (#118157), but currently it's not fixed. If it's marked as fixed, I will mail you again, is it ok?
In my opinion, RC1 is doing very well, so I think the most other changed packages are not affecting me.
Ok, I just started uploading some packages to: ftp.suse.com/pub/people/aj/10.0-Extra
Andreas
Thanks a lot! Christoph
On Tue, Sep 20, 2005 at 07:33:23PM +0200, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
If there are a really small number of critical packages that are needed (not much more than 10), then tell me the list and I upload them tomorrow. A full list is something that we cannot do right now but like to do for 10.1...
No need to ask that question here. There is a WiKi page for that sort of stuff. ;-D http://www.opensuse.org/Package_Wishlist houghi -- Quote correct (NL) http://www.briachons.org/art/quote/ Zitiere richtig (DE) http://www.afaik.de/usenet/faq/zitieren Quote correctly (EN) http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html
On Wed, Sep 21, 2005 at 12:33:44PM +0200, houghi wrote:
On Tue, Sep 20, 2005 at 07:33:23PM +0200, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
If there are a really small number of critical packages that are needed (not much more than 10), then tell me the list and I upload them tomorrow. A full list is something that we cannot do right now but like to do for 10.1...
No need to ask that question here. There is a WiKi page for that sort of stuff. ;-D http://www.opensuse.org/Package_Wishlist
No, this page is inappropriate for this question. Andreas asked for critical packages that got fixes not for the favorite pet packages people like to have included in SUSE. Robert -- Robert Schiele Tel.: +49-621-181-2214 Dipl.-Wirtsch.informatiker mailto:rschiele@uni-mannheim.de
On Wed, Sep 21, 2005 at 12:47:05PM +0200, Robert Schiele wrote:
No need to ask that question here. There is a WiKi page for that sort of stuff. ;-D http://www.opensuse.org/Package_Wishlist
No, this page is inappropriate for this question. Andreas asked for critical packages that got fixes not for the favorite pet packages people like to have included in SUSE.
Relax, take a deep breath. I thought the smiley made it clear I was just kidding. houghi -- Quote correct (NL) http://www.briachons.org/art/quote/ Zitiere richtig (DE) http://www.afaik.de/usenet/faq/zitieren Quote correctly (EN) http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html
On Tue, Sep 20, 2005 at 07:33:23PM +0200, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
The final RC is still going through some final review internally and we're going to ship the goldmaster on the 6th of october as announced.
Novell tells me shipping starts on 30 September 2005: http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/feature/16017.html houghi -- Quote correct (NL) http://www.briachons.org/art/quote/ Zitiere richtig (DE) http://www.afaik.de/usenet/faq/zitieren Quote correctly (EN) http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html
houghi <houghi@houghi.org> writes:
On Tue, Sep 20, 2005 at 07:33:23PM +0200, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
The final RC is still going through some final review internally and we're going to ship the goldmaster on the 6th of october as announced.
Novell tells me shipping starts on 30 September 2005: http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/feature/16017.html
What I meant was: The ISOs will appear on the ftp server on the 6th of october, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, aj@suse.de, http://www.suse.de/~aj SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126
On Wed, Sep 21, 2005 at 02:40:35PM +0200, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
houghi <houghi@houghi.org> writes:
On Tue, Sep 20, 2005 at 07:33:23PM +0200, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
The final RC is still going through some final review internally and we're going to ship the goldmaster on the 6th of october as announced.
Novell tells me shipping starts on 30 September 2005: http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/feature/16017.html
What I meant was: The ISOs will appear on the ftp server on the 6th of october,
OK. Thanks for the clarification. houghi -- Quote correct (NL) http://www.briachons.org/art/quote/ Zitiere richtig (DE) http://www.afaik.de/usenet/faq/zitieren Quote correctly (EN) http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html
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