noticiasdot.com says Novell has decided to kill SUSE
The spanish website noticiasdot.com has published an article saying Novell has decided to kill SUSE Linux: http://www.noticiasdot.com/publicaciones/2005/1105/1711/noticias/noticias_17... It says: "Novell terminates its desktop distribution "Suse Linux" and announces 600 dismissals The Linux comunity is agitated. While the interests of the governments to the free software world rise, the enterprises that operate in this area don't find the magic formula to return the investment they've spent. Novell announced this week the dismissal of 600 engineers and the stagnation to some of the most important projects of the company. The dismissals affect the development teams of -until now- very important projects of the firm, who upset to the free software after buying Ximian and Novell. [Novell bought Novell? Who the hell has written this article?] The teams of Evolution, Mono and Hula have been decimated. The dismissals have also affected those programmers who worked backing Firefox and in less proportion to the KDE development team. The company officially announced it will stop developing its desktop distribution and will focus its policy to one license-based server-market-oriented distribution, competing in this area with Red Hat." The article continues but I don't have time right now to translate it. Is it FUD or what? Looks like if Bill was putting his hands in this website. We should really contact noticiasdot.com so that they remove the article and don't continue creating confussion. -- Víctor Fernández Martínez Enviado especial a Innsbruck (Austria) para informar de las fiestas Erasmus en la capital tirolesa. Usuario de Linux registrado #312284 en http://counter.li.org.
On Fri, Nov 18, 2005 at 8:30 am, in message <200511172030.41959.vfernandez@polinux.upv.es>, vfernandez@polinux.upv.es wrote: The spanish website noticiasdot.com has published an article saying Novell has decided to kill SUSE Linux:
Plain and simple very bad journalism and absolutely untrue. Andreas
Víctor Fernández
The spanish website noticiasdot.com has published an article saying Novell has decided to kill SUSE Linux:
Don't believe this, as a matter of fact I just released SUSE Linux 10.1 Alpha3 to the mirrors, see the announce mailing list for details.
http://www.noticiasdot.com/publicaciones/2005/1105/1711/noticias/noticias_17...
It says:
"Novell terminates its desktop distribution "Suse Linux" and announces 600 dismissals
The Linux comunity is agitated. While the interests of the governments to the free software world rise, the enterprises that operate in this area don't find the magic formula to return the investment they've spent.
Novell announced this week the dismissal of 600 engineers and the stagnation to some of the most important projects of the company.
The dismissals affect the development teams of -until now- very important projects of the firm, who upset to the free software after buying Ximian and Novell. [Novell bought Novell? Who the hell has written this article?]
The teams of Evolution, Mono and Hula have been decimated. The dismissals have also affected those programmers who worked backing Firefox and in less proportion to the KDE development team.
The company officially announced it will stop developing its desktop distribution and will focus its policy to one license-based server-market-oriented distribution, competing in this area with Red Hat."
The article continues but I don't have time right now to translate it.
Is it FUD or what? Looks like if Bill was putting his hands in this website. We should really contact noticiasdot.com so that they remove the article and don't continue creating confussion.
Yes, please contact them. You can read at the Novell press side details of what was announced, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, aj@suse.de, http://www.suse.de/~aj SUSE Linux Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126
El Jueves, 17 de Noviembre de 2005 21:17, Andreas Jaeger escribió:
Víctor Fernández
writes: The spanish website noticiasdot.com has published an article saying Novell has decided to kill SUSE Linux:
Don't believe this, as a matter of fact I just released SUSE Linux 10.1 Alpha3 to the mirrors, see the announce mailing list for details.
I don't believe it, I just wanted to let you know.
Is it FUD or what? Looks like if Bill was putting his hands in this website. We should really contact noticiasdot.com so that they remove the article and don't continue creating confussion.
Yes, please contact them. You can read at the Novell press side details of what was announced,
I can contact them but I think they won't pay attention to me. They can tell me I have nothing to do with Novell and who am I to doubt about their professionality or something like that. But if someone from SUSE or Novell contacted them, they could not complain. Their e-mail address is: redaccion [at] noticiasdot [dot] com -- Víctor Fernández Martínez Enviado especial a Innsbruck (Austria) para informar de las fiestas Erasmus en la capital tirolesa. Usuario de Linux registrado #312284 en http://counter.li.org.
On 17/11/05, Andreas Jaeger
Víctor Fernández
writes: The spanish website noticiasdot.com has published an article saying Novell has decided to kill SUSE Linux:
I've been working with NetWare since version 3.11 (I have installed 2.15 ELS but that was after 3.11 came out) this is about 14 or so years, for most of that in the press there have been reports that NetWare or Novell is dead, going to be dead within weeks etc. I have no real idea why this is, yes there are lots of things that Novell are very bad at (OK a few, Marketing springs to mind, and the whole WordPerfect debacle). It's only now that NetWare is really looking like it's going to die/be reborn into NetWare services running on Linux. Anyway the point of this (yes there is one) is that I really sorry that SUSE is now going to be hit with years of reports about how it's going to die, be re-sold off, be completely re-written to run on top of Windows but there seems to be some sort of curse with the press and Novell (perhaps they don't spend enough on adverts? no surely not, the IT press cannot be bought by a few ads?). Right off to drink more beer and plan my move to Bermuda. Marcus (blatantly not the one who works for SUSE/Novell) -- Photos : www.flickr.com/photos/marcusc Blog : marcusbrain.blogspot.com `The music business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free, and good men die like dogs. There's also a negative side.' HST
On Thursday 17 November 2005 21:17, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
Víctor Fernández
writes: The spanish website noticiasdot.com has published an article saying Novell has decided to kill SUSE Linux:
Don't believe this, as a matter of fact I just released SUSE Linux 10.1 Alpha3 to the mirrors, see the announce mailing list for details.
http://www.noticiasdot.com/publicaciones/2005/1105/1711/noticias/noticias _171105-05.htm
It says:
"Novell terminates its desktop distribution "Suse Linux" and announces 600 dismissals
The Linux comunity is agitated. While the interests of the governments to the free software world rise, the enterprises that operate in this area don't find the magic formula to return the investment they've spent.
Novell announced this week the dismissal of 600 engineers and the stagnation to some of the most important projects of the company.
The dismissals affect the development teams of -until now- very important projects of the firm, who upset to the free software after buying Ximian and Novell. [Novell bought Novell? Who the hell has written this article?]
The teams of Evolution, Mono and Hula have been decimated. The dismissals have also affected those programmers who worked backing Firefox and in less proportion to the KDE development team.
The company officially announced it will stop developing its desktop distribution and will focus its policy to one license-based server-market-oriented distribution, competing in this area with Red Hat."
The article continues but I don't have time right now to translate it.
Is it FUD or what? Looks like if Bill was putting his hands in this website. We should really contact noticiasdot.com so that they remove the article and don't continue creating confussion.
Yes, please contact them. You can read at the Novell press side details of what was announced,
Andreas
There's not even a mention of thier sources so you can check on thier veracity... That not bad journalism.... It's simply not journalism... Jerry P.S. Gees, who would read a rag like that?
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Víctor Fernández
writes: The spanish website noticiasdot.com has published an article saying Novell has decided to kill SUSE Linux:
Don't believe this, as a matter of fact I just released SUSE Linux 10.1 Alpha3 to the mirrors, see the announce mailing list for details. Well, then lets go and spread the word on our blogs :)
http://www.noticiasdot.com/publicaciones/2005/1105/1711/noticias/noticias_17...
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I send a e-mail, this the anwers ( spanish ), maybe somebody could translate
it to english.
El día 17/11/05, Marcel Mourguiart
Primero que nada gracias por contestar, creo que te llegarán varios correos, ya que en la lista de correo de desarrollo de SUSE les ha molestado mucho su articulo.
No discuto su análisis, sino el hecho que han dicho que Novell a comunicado OFICIALMENTE que descontinuará SUSE Linux, eso señores es mentira, nunca han dicho algo así.
El resto son opiniones y al igual que los ombligos todos tenemos uno, así que no entro a discutir eso, pero decir que hay un comunicado oficial es calumnioso, espero sinceramente que corrijan ese error.
El día 17/11/05, redaccion
escribió: Esta es la informacion que nosotros hemos recibido y que además antes de publicar la refrendamos con otros medios. No todo el mundo coincide en cual será el futuro de cada una de las aplicaciones y herramientas sobre los que Novell ha echado el freno. En cambio si todo el mundo coincide en que la nueva orientación de Suse es hacía el terreno de los servidores compitiendo con Red Hat. Lo puedes ver en http://linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2005-11-04-018-26-OP-SS-NV o en News.com http://news.com/, entre otros sitios Por su parte eWeekhttp://linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2005-11-04-018-26-OP-SS-NVquita hierro a la crisis y dice que apuntalará Linux desktop. Cada uno puede ver la crisis como desee, pero los 600 despidos no vienen de centros de soporte sino de tecnicos y desarrolladores. Entre ellos algunos catalanes con una presencia más que emblemática dentro de la comunidad del código abierto Además, la puesta en venta de Celerant evidencia un cierto fracaso en el terreno de la consultoria, un area estrategica para la venta de servicios. ----- Original Message -----
*From:* Marcel Mourguiart
*To:* redaccion@noticiasdot.com *Sent:* Thursday, November 17, 2005 10:31 PM *Subject:* Noticia falsa Señores en relación a esta noticia: Novell pone fin a su distribución desktop "Suse Linux" y anuncia 600 despidos
http://www.noticiasdot.com/publicaciones/2005/1105/1711/noticias/noticias_17...
Aparentemente es totalmente falsa, por lo menos cuando dicen:
"La firma anunció oficialmente que dejará de producir su distribución desktop y que orientará su política hacía una distribución basada en licencias y orientada al mercado de servidores, compitiendo en este terreno con Red Hat."
Trabajo con esa firma y en particular con SUSE y les aseguro que no hay siquiera una cercanía con la verdad en dicha afirmación, les sugiero verificar aunque sea mínimamente los datos y publicar una corrección, ya que hasta el momento su credibilidad periodística ha quedado muy mal parada.
Atte. -- Marcel Mourguiart
-- Marcel Mourguiart
-- Marcel Mourguiart
Andreas Jaeger wrote: Andreas: They made a correction today, but it's full of FUD ..
Rectificación
Desde Novell nos indican que nunca han anunciado oficialmente que dejaran de desarrollar Suse Desktop Linux,
con lo cual rectificamos el texto que ayer publicamos. Sin embargo, todos los rumores apuntan a que este producto ya no es estratégico para la firma y que volcará sus esfuerzos a competir en el mercado de los servidores y no en el de las estaciones de trabajo y ordenadores de sobremesa. "Correction : We have been informed by Novell , they haven't announced the end of SUSE Linux Desktop , However ,rumors says this product is no longer strategic for the company , and they will put the efforts to in the server market,not in Desktop and workstation " maybe this awful site is founded by M$...
On 18/11/05, Cristian Rodriguez
"Correction :
We have been informed by Novell , they haven't announced the end of SUSE Linux Desktop , However ,rumors says this product is no longer strategic for the company , and they will put the efforts to in the server market,not in Desktop and workstation "
maybe this awful site is founded by M$...
If that was true (which it isn't) I would be a lot more worried if I worked in the Ximian area than SUSE. have fun Marcus -- Photos : www.flickr.com/photos/marcusc Blog : marcusbrain.blogspot.com `The music business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free, and good men die like dogs. There's also a negative side.' HST
participants (8)
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Andreas Girardet
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Andreas Jaeger
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Cristian Rodriguez
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Jerry Westrick
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Marcel Mourguiart
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Marcus Cooper
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Rauch Christian
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Víctor Fernández