[S.u.S.E. Linux] RealAudio problem with SuSE 5.2
I installed RealAudio, and followed all of the set-up information. When I log onto a RealAudio broadcast, I hear the typical 20 second commercial prior to the live stream, but then about 1 to 1.5 seconds into the live stream sound stops, and the live stream clock stops dead also. Has anyone else experienced this? Is there a fix? PS: My sound card is a SB AWE32 PnP, using the OSS driver. It works fine for everything else I've tried it with. Lawrence Sayre <lsayre@integrityonline13.com> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e
Yes, I know how you feel. I am experiencing the same problems. But sorry I'm still trying to figure it out. I don't think it's the sound though as it will do the same thing with or without the sound driver loaded. I've noticed watching my cpu usage indicator that it seems to continue to climb up and up when the lock occurs. Also if you pause and press play, it will go again for a few seconds. I'm not an expert but it looks like it's getting stuck in a loop for some reason. If anyone has any ideas even experimental, it would be gladly accepted and appreciated. OS - Linux, SuSE 5.2 dist. CPU K6-200 Sound Card - Sound Blaster AWE 64 Mem. - 64M SDRAM OSS install and running fine for other programs. Graphics - Matrox Milliemum I using svga x-server. Thanks in advance Edward Smith lsayre wrote:
I installed RealAudio, and followed all of the set-up information.
When I log onto a RealAudio broadcast, I hear the typical 20 second commercial prior to the live stream, but then about 1 to 1.5 seconds into the live stream sound stops, and the live stream clock stops dead also.
Has anyone else experienced this?
Is there a fix?
PS: My sound card is a SB AWE32 PnP, using the OSS driver. It works fine for everything else I've tried it with.
Lawrence Sayre <lsayre@integrityonline13.com>
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When I log onto a RealAudio broadcast, I hear the typical 20 second commercial prior to the live stream, but then about 1 to 1.5 seconds into the live stream sound stops, and the live stream clock stops dead also.
The RealAudio stream is compressed audio, and if you don't have muscle with you computer P166+ or better, then you will loose a lot of the information... I've been messing with RealAudio with a 10baseT ethernet, which is great, so I get 130bps streams and have clear sound... If you streaming accross a modem with PPP, then any line noise or resent packets will pause your audio stream... Does it stop at the same spot? Do you have libc5.4.44? Do you have over 32meg of memory and running a lightweight windowmanger? What's the load while you are streaming? I usually stay around 1.2 or less when I'm playing... Does the test realaudio file(s) work... like welcome.ram?
Has anyone else experienced this?
Is there a fix?
SuSE usually spits out kernel/OS messages on console 10 (CTRL+ALT+F10); see if you are getting a device busy error, or if there are any related error messages on that console... RealAudio has a performance thing with it where you can see how the engine is behaving: latency/resent packets/dropped packets/bits per second/etc See if it's not dropping packets or trying to resend things etc... Jonathan P.S. Mail me personally if you'd like... -- =========== =========== Jonathan Paul Cowherd jpcowh01@slug.louisville.edu <A HREF="http://www.slug.louisville.edu/~jpcowh01"><A HREF="http://www.slug.louisville.edu/~jpcowh01</A">http://www.slug.louisville.edu/~jpcowh01</A</A>> This is my world and I am... World Leader Pretend =========== =========== -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e
World Leader Pretend wrote:
When I log onto a RealAudio broadcast, I hear the typical 20 second commercial prior to the live stream, but then about 1 to 1.5 seconds into the live stream sound stops, and the live stream clock stops dead also.
The RealAudio stream is compressed audio, and if you don't have muscle with you computer P166+ or better, then you will loose a lot of the information... I've been messing with RealAudio with a 10baseT ethernet, which is great, so I get 130bps streams and have clear sound...
If you streaming accross a modem with PPP, then any line noise or resent packets will pause your audio stream...
Does it stop at the same spot?
yes
Do you have libc5.4.44?
yes, and the 2.0.33 kernel
Do you have over 32meg of memory and running a lightweight windowmanger?
32 meg ram with KDE.
What's the load while you are streaming? I usually stay around 1.2 or less when I'm playing...
CPU load shoots straight to 100%
Does the test realaudio file(s) work... like welcome.ram?
welcome.rm suffers the same fate!
Has anyone else experienced this?
Is there a fix?
SuSE usually spits out kernel/OS messages on console 10 (CTRL+ALT+F10); see if you are getting a device busy error, or if there are any related error messages on that console...
error_code [+64/80] , whatever that means (plus a page full of lots of other stuff I don't understand). I'm a newbie.
RealAudio has a performance thing with it where you can see how the engine is behaving: latency/resent packets/dropped packets/bits per second/etc See if it's not dropping packets or trying to resend things etc...
How do I do this? PS: Thank you for the help!! Lawrence Sayre <lsayre@integrityonline13.com>
Jonathan
P.S. Mail me personally if you'd like...
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Hello Edward; You are right in that the CPU usage meter goes straight to 100%, but when paused it drops to zero, then when play is depressed again it goes straight to 100% CPU usage again, while another snippet of sound is heard. I noticed that you and I both have the Millenium I video card, and a similar set-up and equipment (except my processor is the Cyrix P200+). I have only 32 meg of ram, to your 64, but since its happening the same way with 64 meg, I don't think its a memory problem. Since we both experience the same problem with different CPU's, I doubt the CPU is at fault. Could it be a video card conflict problem? Is anyone using an original Millenium video card having this problem, or on the contrary, is anyone in this category successfully using RealAudio 5.0 (the free version) with no problems? Lawrence Sayre <lsayre@integrityonline13.com> Edward Smith wrote:
Yes, I know how you feel. I am experiencing the same problems. But sorry I'm still trying to figure it out. I don't think it's the sound though as it will do the same thing with or without the sound driver loaded. I've noticed watching my cpu usage indicator that it seems to continue to climb up and up when the lock occurs. Also if you pause and press play, it will go again for a few seconds. I'm not an expert but it looks like it's getting stuck in a loop for some reason.
If anyone has any ideas even experimental, it would be gladly accepted and appreciated.
OS - Linux, SuSE 5.2 dist. CPU K6-200 Sound Card - Sound Blaster AWE 64 Mem. - 64M SDRAM OSS install and running fine for other programs. Graphics - Matrox Milliemum I using svga x-server.
Thanks in advance
Edward Smith
lsayre wrote:
I installed RealAudio, and followed all of the set-up information.
When I log onto a RealAudio broadcast, I hear the typical 20 second commercial prior to the live stream, but then about 1 to 1.5 seconds into the live stream sound stops, and the live stream clock stops dead also.
Has anyone else experienced this?
Is there a fix?
PS: My sound card is a SB AWE32 PnP, using the OSS driver. It works fine for everything else I've tried it with.
Lawrence Sayre <lsayre@integrityonline13.com>
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Is anyone using an original Millenium video card having this problem, or on the contrary, is anyone in this category successfully using RealAudio 5.0 (the free version) with no problems?
I've never had any luck with Real Player 5.0, but I had Real Audio 3.0 (available at freshmeat) up and running with SuSE 5.1. On 5.2, however, neither work, and I get the same problems everyone refers to -- fragmentation of sound. I think we're up against a serious incompatibility problem here (btwn SuSE and Real Audio), with bugs in the UNIX versions of real audio compounding the problem. Let's keep this thread going; somebody might have a solution. In the meantime, you might try Real Audio 3.0 -- it's a cinch to configure. -- Glenn -- PII266, 64M, Ensonique sound, STB Velocity video. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e
Realplayer 5.0 works fine here. SuSE 5.2, exported the rvplayer dir as path and ld_library_path in /etc/profile and no problems.
I think we're up against a serious incompatibility problem here (btwn SuSE and Real Audio), with bugs in the UNIX versions of real audio compounding the problem.
Let's keep this thread going; somebody might have a solution. In the meantime, you might try Real Audio 3.0 -- it's a cinch to configure.
-- Glenn -- PII266, 64M, Ensonique sound, STB Velocity video.
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I downloaded RealAudio 5.0 from the www.real.com, and I didn't get it from SuSE 5.2 distribution... I read the readme for it, and everything work fine... If SuSE has a rpm for RealAudio, then maybe that rpm has a qark with it... Let me know if you uninstall the rpm and install from tar file downloadable from www.real.com site... If it give the same error(s) the we'll know it's a system thing oppose to a configuration issue... Are most of you that are having difficult running RealAudio through PPP or Are you on a tcp/ip layer somewhere? Jonathan -- =========== =========== Jonathan Paul Cowherd jpcowh01@slug.louisville.edu <A HREF="http://www.slug.louisville.edu/~jpcowh01"><A HREF="http://www.slug.louisville.edu/~jpcowh01</A">http://www.slug.louisville.edu/~jpcowh01</A</A>> This is my world and I am... World Leader Pretend =========== =========== -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e
I think we're up against a serious incompatibility problem here (btwn SuSE and Real Audio), with bugs in the UNIX versions of real audio compounding the problem. Let's keep this thread going; somebody might have a solution. i'm not sure if it's a UNIX prob, 'cause i've seen it it Win95... -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e
RealPlayer, Version 5.0.0.35 Linux 2.0.33 i586 This version of realplayer has worked flawlessly for me in both SuSE 5.1 and 5.2. vic wrote:
I think we're up against a serious incompatibility problem here (btwn SuSE and Real Audio), with bugs in the UNIX versions of real audio compounding the problem.
Let's keep this thread going; somebody might have a solution.
i'm not sure if it's a UNIX prob, 'cause i've seen it it Win95... -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e
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Michael Lankton <satan@nfinity.com> wrote:
RealPlayer, Version 5.0.0.35 Linux 2.0.33 i586 This version of realplayer has worked flawlessly for me in both SuSE 5.1 and 5.2.
Hmmm....not me. What all do you do to get it up and running ? I'm downloading now and will try again. -Dee W.D.McKinney (Dee) -=- deem@wdm.com No claim to fame, just saved by Grace. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e
1. add to /etc/profile: export PATH=$PATH:/directory/where/rvplayer/is export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/directory/where/rvplayer/is 2. cp RAObserverClass and RAPlayerClass to your netscape plugins directory 3. ln -s /dir/where/rvplayer/is/librvplayer.so /netscape/plugins/dir/librvplayer.so W.D.McKinney wrote:
Michael Lankton <satan@nfinity.com> wrote:
RealPlayer, Version 5.0.0.35 Linux 2.0.33 i586 This version of realplayer has worked flawlessly for me in both SuSE 5.1 and 5.2.
Hmmm....not me. What all do you do to get it up and running ? I'm downloading now and will try again.
-Dee
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I've done exactly what Michael Lankton says below, and RealAudio still locks up about 1.5 seconds into the "live stream". Does anyone else suffering from this problem have a Matrox Millenium (original, not II) video card installed? And likewise, is anyone who does not have a Matrox Millenium suffer from this problem. I'm trying to narrow down the culprit. Lawrence Sayre <lsayre@integrityonline13.com> Michael Lankton wrote:
1. add to /etc/profile: export PATH=$PATH:/directory/where/rvplayer/is export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/directory/where/rvplayer/is 2. cp RAObserverClass and RAPlayerClass to your netscape plugins directory 3. ln -s /dir/where/rvplayer/is/librvplayer.so /netscape/plugins/dir/librvplayer.so
W.D.McKinney wrote:
Michael Lankton <satan@nfinity.com> wrote:
RealPlayer, Version 5.0.0.35 Linux 2.0.33 i586 This version of realplayer has worked flawlessly for me in both SuSE 5.1 and 5.2.
Hmmm....not me. What all do you do to get it up and running ? I'm downloading now and will try again.
-Dee
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Does it play the welcome.ram that comes with the realplayer and can be found in your realplayer directory, or does it stall on that as well? lsayre wrote:
I've done exactly what Michael Lankton says below, and RealAudio still locks up about 1.5 seconds into the "live stream".
Does anyone else suffering from this problem have a Matrox Millenium (original, not II) video card installed? And likewise, is anyone who does not have a Matrox Millenium suffer from this problem. I'm trying to narrow down the culprit.
Lawrence Sayre <lsayre@integrityonline13.com>
Michael Lankton wrote:
1. add to /etc/profile: export PATH=$PATH:/directory/where/rvplayer/is export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/directory/where/rvplayer/is 2. cp RAObserverClass and RAPlayerClass to your netscape plugins directory 3. ln -s /dir/where/rvplayer/is/librvplayer.so /netscape/plugins/dir/librvplayer.so
W.D.McKinney wrote:
Michael Lankton <satan@nfinity.com> wrote:
RealPlayer, Version 5.0.0.35 Linux 2.0.33 i586 This version of realplayer has worked flawlessly for me in both SuSE 5.1 and 5.2.
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It stalls on 'welcome.rm' the same way! Michael Lankton wrote:
Does it play the welcome.ram that comes with the realplayer and can be found in your realplayer directory, or does it stall on that as well?
lsayre wrote:
I've done exactly what Michael Lankton says below, and RealAudio still locks up about 1.5 seconds into the "live stream".
Does anyone else suffering from this problem have a Matrox Millenium (original, not II) video card installed? And likewise, is anyone who does not have a Matrox Millenium suffer from this problem. I'm trying to narrow down the culprit.
Lawrence Sayre <lsayre@integrityonline13.com>
Michael Lankton wrote:
1. add to /etc/profile: export PATH=$PATH:/directory/where/rvplayer/is export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/directory/where/rvplayer/is 2. cp RAObserverClass and RAPlayerClass to your netscape plugins directory 3. ln -s /dir/where/rvplayer/is/librvplayer.so /netscape/plugins/dir/librvplayer.so
W.D.McKinney wrote:
Michael Lankton <satan@nfinity.com> wrote:
RealPlayer, Version 5.0.0.35 Linux 2.0.33 i586 This version of realplayer has worked flawlessly for me in both SuSE 5.1 and 5.2.
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I wish one of my suggestions had worked for you Lawrence. Getting RealPlayer functioning properly isn't nearly as straight forward as it should be, but I suppose we should be grateful to have Realplayer in linux at all. Realplayer should be working for you, you've done everything necessary. A detailed email to support at Real might bring a better answer. Sorry I couldn't be more help, and good luck. lsayre wrote:
It stalls on 'welcome.rm' the same way!
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