Re: [SLE] Can't even get my Network card installed :`(
All of a sudden, and I'm not sure why, my NIC seems to be there. I've pinged from the windows box and it's finding it. I pinged the windows box from the Linux box and it's finding it (though it doesn't know when to stop pinging)
This is good, if mysterious, news. Does it survive a reboot? Ping under UNIX keeps sending the signal until you hit CTRL-C to stop the program. Look at "man ping" for the option that controls the count of pings sent.
When I log on the only thing amiss is a
Starting NIS+ services: Failed
I wouldn't worry about NIS for the time being. You clearly have no need for it.
This does still leave the other card unaccounted for (the EA201c ISA card for my cable connection).
ISA PnP stuff is bad news under Linux. The PnP stuff works, but is horribly messy. It helps to have a Windows machine handy to configure the card on. You have one, so you may be alright. You might also need to recompile the kernel for that card. Start a new thread on this this asking if anyone has one working, or if the SuSE kernel has support for the device by default.
Thanks again for all your help
You're welcome. -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
Just a comment. This is the second post this morning suggesting to compile a kernel for something. This is a nic and the other a sound card. AFAIK all the necessary modules are already in the kernel for both of these. Compiling kernels is pretty much a thing of the past in a modern distro. This Truley scares the krap out of people and IMHO is misinformation. Thanks. Derek Fountain wrote:
All of a sudden, and I'm not sure why, my NIC seems to be there. the card on. You have one, so you may be alright. You might also need to recompile the kernel for that card. Start a new thread on this this
-- Michael H. Collins http://www.linuxlink.com 512-442-3151 512-656-9508 The Ultimate WM http://www.xfce.org Do you want FUN with Linux? http://www.austinlug.org http://hebb.cis.uoguelph.ca/~dave/27320/new/unixphil.html -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
Michael H. Collins said at ÒRe: [SLE] Can't even get my Network card installed :`(Ó. [1999/12/23 16:57]
This is a nic and the other a sound card. AFAIK all the necessary modules are already in the kernel for both of these. Compiling kernels is pretty much a thing of the past in a modern distro. This Truley scares the krap out of people and IMHO is misinformation.
One of THE advantages of linux is that it nearly always uses standard PC/ Wintel hardware in a more optimal way than that other OS - its actually designed to be like this. One of the keys to this optimisation is not running things "out of the box" dumb style, but compiling the system from the ground up to optimise whatever miss mash of hardware the user is running. Compiling a kernel is not scarey at all, its actually straightforward and simple if you follow the few steps properly. And even if its not always necessary its probably always the better solution. Its certainly a better solution than not getting a piece of hardware to work at all. Dont confuse "modern" and "easy" either :-/ Try a kernel compile. If you really cant manage it, shuffle back to windows :-) -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
<snippty snip>
Try a kernel compile.
Don't know about anyone else, but the perception, on the part of some people, is that a "kernel compile" is a hugely scary event! It uses two loaded words: "kernel" (which for many is probably like the 'brain' in 'brain surgery' or 'heart' in 'heart bypass') and "compile" which I imagine scares some newbies more than half to death. "Compile? I know nothing about programming..." While to me (and many others) it's all tremendously good fun, maybe if it was introduced to newbies as something nicer sounding (I dunno: "linux hardware customisation"? I'm no marketing type...) it would hold less dread? The "never recompile, everything is a module" brigade and the "regular kernel compiling and cold showers" mob can now flame me from both sides... ;-)) Yuletide greetings to all, Sean PS FWIW, I love tweaking the kernel. And using modules. I'm very middle of the road......or maybe just confused... -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
I have compiled many kernels but a newbie is very apprehensive of doing so. What would be the advantage of recompiling a kernel if all the necessary modules for the "miss mash" of hardware are included? When one hard compiles a "feature" into the kernel it makes it bigger. When one uses modules it gets no bigger. (save a flag pointing to the module) If one is running 2.3.33 as I am for usb development, yes, then it is imperative to compile. I just like to give the new guys a break. 3 years ago nothing worked without a compile. My point is that those days have passed. ve wrote:
Michael H. Collins said at ÒRe: [SLE] Can't even get my Network card installed :`(Ó. [1999/12/23 16:57]
This is a nic and the other a sound card. AFAIK all the necessary modules are already in the kernel for both of these. Compiling kernels is pretty much a thing of the past in a modern distro. This Truley scares the krap out of people and IMHO is misinformation.
One of THE advantages of linux is that it nearly always uses standard PC/ Wintel hardware in a more optimal way than that other OS - its actually designed to be like this. One of the keys to this optimisation is not running things "out of the box" dumb style, but compiling the system from the ground up to optimise whatever miss mash of hardware the user is running. Compiling a kernel is not scarey at all, its actually straightforward and simple if you follow the few steps properly. And even if its not always necessary its probably always the better solution. Its certainly a better solution than not getting a piece of hardware to work at all. Dont confuse "modern" and "easy" either :-/ Try a kernel compile. If you really cant manage it, shuffle back to windows :-)
-- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
-- Michael H. Collins http://www.linuxlink.com 512-442-3151 512-656-9508 The Ultimate WM http://www.xfce.org Do you want FUN with Linux? http://www.austinlug.org http://hebb.cis.uoguelph.ca/~dave/27320/new/unixphil.html -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
I have compiled many kernels but a newbie is very apprehensive of doing so.
What would be the advantage of recompiling a kernel if all the necessary modules for the "miss mash" of hardware are included?
well the kernel doesnt just deal with setting hardware, it also makes a system savvy of protocols, file systems, and other software and hardware options. Most important - compiling your own kernel (as oppose to relying on the distro makers) allows the best control over your whole hardware / software combinations. In my specific case apple talk IP and appletalk ip decapsulation, UFS file system support, no serial support, no parallel port support, no EIDE support etc etc etc. I needed these from day 1 with my linux system so its not a newbie/non-newbie thing. Also what kilobytes i loose from compiling all essentals directly in i gain by flushing out all the standard stuff i dont need. My present kernel is 536 kb !! + 1 module. big deal. Also i dont like using the module method for critical tasks or hardware, eg - SCSI or ethernet controllers. And i get to compile in extended console text modes. And im a kernel- compile-aholic :-)
When one hard compiles a "feature" into the kernel it makes it bigger. When one uses modules it gets no bigger. (save a flag pointing to the module)
-- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
Well, firstly I said "might". Secondly, having just spent some time getting Duncan's NIC working, I somewhat resent being accused of spreading misinformation. My advice seems to have worked for him so far. Thirdly, compiling the kernel is not a thing of the past. Being _forced_ to might be, but those of us who like to streamline the kernel to get the best from our hardware do it regularly. I couldn't get my sound card to work with the stock SuSE kernel, but doing a recompile sorted the problem out. I've checked the SuSE distro and it appears the cable NIC (which, incidentally are almost unheard of in the UK) is a module in 6.2, so a recompile is probably not necessary. I apologise for the wrong information. Jeez.... >8-(
Just a comment. This is the second post this morning suggesting to compile a kernel for something. This is a nic and the other a sound card. AFAIK all the necessary modules are already in the kernel for both of these. Compiling kernels is pretty much a thing of the past in a modern distro. This Truley scares the krap out of people and IMHO is misinformation.
Thanks.
Derek Fountain wrote:
All of a sudden, and I'm not sure why, my NIC seems to be there. the card on. You have one, so you may be alright. You might also need to recompile the kernel for that card. Start a new thread on this this
-- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
participants (4)
-
fountai＠hursley.ibm.com -
kick＠c2i.net -
mhtexcollins＠austin.rr.com -
sgroarke＠nortelnetworks.com