[opensuse] Keyboard slow after sleep
I have had an issue since 12.2 (Currently on 13.2) whereby I put my computer to sleep (usually accidentally when changing volume) and when I wake it up the keyboard is incredibly slow to respond. When it is woken up the keyboard will not recognise mutliple key presses and if I type normally it misses half the letters because its response time is so long. I can work around this by unplugging and re-connecting the keyboard's USB and then it works fine again. I can replicate the issue every time. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 05/26/2015 09:54 AM, Paul Groves wrote:
I have had an issue since 12.2 (Currently on 13.2) whereby I put my computer to sleep (usually accidentally when changing volume) and when I wake it up the keyboard is incredibly slow to respond.
When it is woken up the keyboard will not recognise mutliple key presses and if I type normally it misses half the letters because its response time is so long.
I can work around this by unplugging and re-connecting the keyboard's USB and then it works fine again.
I can replicate the issue every time.
I have this note in my updating linux notebook:
Remove pm-utils (it it gets installed automatically - it interferes with suspend)
I made a note of it because it has bitten me way more times than I care to admit. There is also a similar problem mentioned here: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=170321 which seems to suggest there may be a systemd solution to get certain modules unloaded before suspend and reloaded upon resume. -- After all is said and done, more is said than done. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
OK thanks. what else is pm-utils used for? I don’t want to remove it until I know what it does. On 26 May 2015 at 19:00, John Andersen <jsamyth@gmail.com> wrote:
On 05/26/2015 09:54 AM, Paul Groves wrote:
I have had an issue since 12.2 (Currently on 13.2) whereby I put my computer to sleep (usually accidentally when changing volume) and when I wake it up the keyboard is incredibly slow to respond.
When it is woken up the keyboard will not recognise mutliple key presses and if I type normally it misses half the letters because its response time is so long.
I can work around this by unplugging and re-connecting the keyboard's USB and then it works fine again.
I can replicate the issue every time.
I have this note in my updating linux notebook:
Remove pm-utils (it it gets installed automatically - it interferes with suspend)
I made a note of it because it has bitten me way more times than I care to admit.
There is also a similar problem mentioned here: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=170321 which seems to suggest there may be a systemd solution to get certain modules unloaded before suspend and reloaded upon resume.
-- After all is said and done, more is said than done. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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On 2015-05-29 13:43, Paul Groves wrote:
OK thanks. what else is pm-utils used for? I don’t want to remove it until I know what it does.
Basically cares for many issues with hibernation, stopping and restarting things during hibernation. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" at Telcontar)
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 05/29/2015 05:02 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2015-05-29 13:43, Paul Groves wrote:
OK thanks. what else is pm-utils used for? I don’t want to remove it until I know what it does.
Basically cares for many issues with hibernation, stopping and restarting things during hibernation.
PM utils are NOT needed any more. They are redundant on most machines. Uninstall them, test the system, and re-install them if you think you miss something. It handles sleep, energy savings etc. It interferes with hybernation (it is not the daemon in charge of that any more unless you are running really old equipment or older distros. NOTHING stopped working when I uninstalled PM-Utils. Everything works perfectly on the laptop. - -- After all is said and done, more is said than done. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iEYEARECAAYFAlVotXUACgkQv7M3G5+2DLLx7QCfWAdG2zsbOMkLbCCyoSO0DKBE 3yAAn3uZjBw/s1Zap8+MjUHO1QhiIgdw =Reub -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2015-05-29 20:52, John Andersen wrote:
On 05/29/2015 05:02 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
PM utils are NOT needed any more. They are redundant on most machines. Uninstall them, test the system, and re-install them if you think you miss something.
I did. Failure to hibernate. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" at Telcontar)
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 05/30/2015 06:48 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2015-05-29 20:52, John Andersen wrote:
On 05/29/2015 05:02 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
PM utils are NOT needed any more. They are redundant on most machines. Uninstall them, test the system, and re-install them if you think you miss something.
I did. Failure to hibernate.
Yes, I see that here in this bugzilla: http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2013-11/msg00911.html But that was before 13.1 or 13.2. It appears you were using 12.3 at that time. Systemd has come a long way since then. Now you sig suggests you are using a rolling release, and who knows what detritus might be lurking in there. There are many other indications that pm-utils are deprecated in 13.2 here: https://forums.opensuse.org/showthread.php/503950-13-2-Won-t-resume-from-Hib... I don't discount the possibility that some older machines still require pm-utils, but, like I said, it is not installed on my 13.2. - -- After all is said and done, more is said than done. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iEYEARECAAYFAlVqB9YACgkQv7M3G5+2DLK43ACdFCPRP0VQbKr2T6vcfb0rZelL GlEAnAsATykauMWK3xFqNyCHy6gp4IvL =uhli -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 2015-05-30 20:56, John Andersen wrote:
On 05/30/2015 06:48 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
Now you sig suggests you are using a rolling release, and who knows what detritus might be lurking in there.
No, I'm not. I'm using 13.1, stable, not rolling.
I don't discount the possibility that some older machines still require pm-utils, but, like I said, it is not installed on my 13.2.
I know that systemd covers most cases and pm-utils is (today) not usually needed, but there are exceptions. pm-utils has been adjusted over a long time (years) to work around issues and bugs in other software that trigger on hibernation or suspend. The official view is that the kernel should handle all cases, and if it doesn't, report. But a report takes maybe a year or two to produce a result (in the stable release), so meanwhile, there are user hacks available. I read of people that solved their hibernation problem just by installing pm-utils, and some that solve it by removing the same - yes, on 13.2. YMMV, you know. I suspend by calling "pm-hibernate" directly, because my desktop button for hibernation has a broken design. I need it, thus, for several reasons. Anyway, eventually I will need a method to call scripts on hibernate restore, automatically, as I'm doing now with pm-utils, but via systemd. Somehow. - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" (Minas Tirith)) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iF4EAREIAAYFAlVqcxEACgkQja8UbcUWM1xCewD+J5S1OsONy0TRvMFjMeO/Ow5q JDQt3m5U03nZHBeH+U0A/1oNCVaVzLOr6KEfItHDWfaqDvz2OgCyv3kjlfr8wY70 =o3+/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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