On Saturday 26 October 2002 02:51 am, wolfi wrote:

On Sat, 2002-10-26 at 07:50, Book Realm - esquire wrote:

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I'm using SuSE 7.2, and the fonts aren't the best on it... plus, I haven't been able to install new fonts. Mandrake had a good fonts manager. Does SuSE 8.1 have a fonts manager now, especially one that can install new true type fonts?

Esquire

Hi,

I have found out that the way for adding fonts described in sdb for 7.2 still works in 8.1; Copy the ttf files (from a windoze box e.g.) to /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/truetype/ , then run # /usr/X11R6/bin/ttmkfdir|sed s/^[0-9]*// > fonts.scale.neu (as root). Then run SuSEconfig and restart the x server. Fonts are there right after that.

Cheers ..... Wolfi ============================================= mailto:wolfi_z@gmx.net

I'll have to think a bit about what those commands do, before I comment very much about them. Since the first cup of coffee is just hitting my stomach, that isn't going to happen in the next 20 or so minutes. There are many variations on the fonts theme. I believe what you show above will only work for true type fonts. There are other kinds of fonts. From my current understanding - or lack thereof - I would say there is an important division in the taxonomy of fonts. Those which scale, and those which don't. Type1 fonts, like TTF, scale. Fonts which scale need a fonts.scale file, which you show how to create above. For a general discussion of fonts which is incomplete, and not well written, but as a few gems of insight, take a look at: http://baldur.globalsymmetry.com/proprietary/com/wri/ch05s04.html Just pick out the parts the Mike Fabian contributed, and ignore my blather, and you should have something of worth. The addition of the fontpath to the XF86Config is one important item you didn't mention. I don't like dumping my own changes into places where configuration programs are doing their work. It just gets too hard to figure out who changed what after a while. I, therefore, create a /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/local and add all my fonts to a subdirectory therein. It is then necessary to include that in the FontPath listing of the /etc/X11/XF86Config. I do hope to find time to really clean up that discussion of fonts, and (probably) move it to a stand alone document. None of the discussions I've found on-line seem to be both comprehensive, and easy to follow. -- STH Hatton's Law: There is only One inviolable Law.

On Sunday 27 October 2002 04:30 am, you wrote:

Thanks everyone for all the help.

I can't understand, however, since fonts are an integral part of computers and printing, why font management isn't an integral part of YaST2, or SuSE as a whole. There's no such drama installing new fonts with Mandrake or Windows, yet, SuSE 8.1 (and the new YaST2) still doesn't have a fonts manager?

SuSE Linux does do /some/ font management. I will be the first to agree that it could be better. The KDE has some font management built in, but there seem to be problems with it, or there were last time I tried to use it. I hope all my whining about fonts of late will encourage someone over there in Nüremberg to work on a more intuitive way of managing fonts. It's prbably hard to know where to focus their efforts in this regard. If the KDE is going to do it, why reinvent the wheel? If KDE font support is broken, should they work on fixing that, or on adding a font module to YaST. I kind of lean toward the latter option, but I'm not sure why. SaX might be involved in some of this as well. I can't say much about that. There is a long-standing problem using SaX with my ViewSonic G810. It's hard to believe, but for some reason, SaX has never liked this monitor, I therefore cannot use it. -- STH Hatton's Law: There is only One inviolable Law.