[opensuse] rug takes more than one hour and a half to install a single package...
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I decided to give rug and zmd a try. Instead of starting Yast to install a single rpm, I thought I would try rug. It can't be so bad... after all, this is 10.2, I have a pentium IV machine, we are on the XXI century, and problems have been ironed out... Ha! nimrodel:~ # rug install xalan-j2 Waking up ZMD...Done Resolving Dependencies... <=== One hour till here. The following packages will be installed: xalan-j2 2.7.0-19 (cd:///?devices=/dev/hdc&alias=20070216-072531) Transaction... Please insert openSUSE-DVD5-download (Failed to mount cd:///?devices=/dev/hdc on /var/adm/mount/AP_0x00000009: Mounting media failed), disk 1, and press Enter. <== about one hour and a half. ····················· 100% Transaction Finished See the log. I started at 11:40: Mar 9 09:21:03 nimrodel zmd: ShutdownManager (WARN): Going to sleep, waking up at 03/10/2007 08:11:02 Mar 9 11:40:59 nimrodel zmd: NetworkManagerModule (WARN): Failed to connect to NetworkManager Mar 9 12:12:23 nimrodel zmd: Daemon (WARN): Not starting remote web server Mar 9 14:42:24 nimrodel zmd: ShutdownManager (WARN): Preparing to sleep... Mar 9 14:42:24 nimrodel zmd: ShutdownManager (WARN): Going to sleep, waking up at 03/10/2007 11:30:59 So, it finished everything at 14:42 Three hours! Good grief! Rpm reports: "Install Date: Fri Mar 9 13:18:02 2007" Till now, I had kept rug and friends thinking they might be useful some time, but... this is unbelievable! And watch this: Mar 8 00:02:08 nimrodel zmd: ShutdownManager (WARN): Preparing to sleep... Mar 8 00:02:09 nimrodel zmd: ShutdownManager (WARN): Going to sleep, waking up at 03/08/2007 22:08:42 Mar 8 05:03:11 nimrodel zmd: NetworkManagerModule (WARN): Failed to connect to NetworkManager Mar 8 05:29:20 nimrodel zmd: Daemon (WARN): Not starting remote web server Mar 8 06:03:10 nimrodel zmd: ShutdownManager (WARN): Preparing to sleep... Mar 8 06:03:10 nimrodel zmd: ShutdownManager (WARN): Going to sleep, waking up at 03/09/2007 04:53:10 Mar 8 11:30:16 nimrodel zmd: NetworkManagerModule (WARN): Failed to connect to NetworkManager Mar 8 12:00:51 nimrodel zmd: Daemon (WARN): Not starting remote web server Mar 8 13:00:51 nimrodel zmd: ShutdownManager (WARN): Preparing to sleep... Mar 8 13:00:51 nimrodel zmd: ShutdownManager (WARN): Going to sleep, waking up at 03/09/2007 11:20:16 Mar 8 18:01:55 nimrodel zmd: NetworkManagerModule (WARN): Failed to connect to NetworkManager Mar 8 18:40:49 nimrodel zmd: Daemon (WARN): Not starting remote web server Mar 8 19:40:49 nimrodel zmd: ShutdownManager (WARN): Preparing to sleep... Mar 8 19:40:49 nimrodel zmd: ShutdownManager (WARN): Going to sleep, waking up at 03/09/2007 17:51:54 Mar 9 00:42:32 nimrodel zmd: NetworkManagerModule (WARN): Failed to connect to NetworkManager Mar 9 02:20:03 nimrodel zmd: Daemon (WARN): Not starting remote web server Mar 9 03:20:04 nimrodel zmd: ShutdownManager (WARN): Preparing to sleep... Mar 9 03:20:04 nimrodel zmd: ShutdownManager (WARN): Going to sleep, waking up at 03/10/2007 00:32:25 Mar 9 08:21:03 nimrodel zmd: NetworkManagerModule (WARN): Failed to connect to NetworkManager Mar 9 08:46:47 nimrodel zmd: Daemon (WARN): Not starting remote web server Mar 9 09:21:03 nimrodel zmd: ShutdownManager (WARN): Preparing to sleep... Mar 9 09:21:03 nimrodel zmd: ShutdownManager (WARN): Going to sleep, waking up at 03/10/2007 08:11:02 During that period, I refrained from calling up Yast. Each time zmd awakes, it says it is going to sleep 24 hours, more or less. Each time it awakes before 6 hours have passed, even if there is nobody working on the computer. And it is a full hour of 100% CPU... What on earth does it have to do all that time? This is progress for Novell? :-/ - -- Cheers, Carlos Robinson -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFF8WhStTMYHG2NR9URAgrGAKCXWrsFoncBdd12dgVNgLXViecENQCdER7l hu7BRyEmtEeRletOM3ZC0hY= =vjyt -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
On Friday 09 March 2007, Carlos E. R. wrote:
Hi,
I decided to give rug and zmd a try. Instead of starting Yast to install a single rpm, I thought I would try rug. It can't be so bad... after all, this is 10.2, I have a pentium IV machine, we are on the XXI century, and problems have been ironed out...
Ha!
nimrodel:~ # rug install xalan-j2 Waking up ZMD...Done Resolving Dependencies... <=== One hour till here.
The following packages will be installed: xalan-j2 2.7.0-19 (cd:///?devices=/dev/hdc&alias=20070216-072531)
It sounds to me like you have way too many duplicate repositories defined, OR your DB file /var/lib/zmd/zmd.db has gotten absurdly large or corrupted. (you can safely delete this after shutting down zmd with rczmd stop, then restart zmd again with rczmd start). -- _____________________________________ John Andersen -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Friday 2007-03-09 at 09:23 -0900, John Andersen wrote:
It sounds to me like you have way too many duplicate repositories defined, OR your DB file /var/lib/zmd/zmd.db has gotten absurdly large or corrupted. (you can safely delete this after shutting down zmd with rczmd stop, then restart zmd again with rczmd start).
I have only four: the dvd, the oss repo, the non-oss repo, and the oficial update repo - lets ask rug what repos are configured: nimrodel:~ # time rug sl [ half an hour later, the command hasn't produced any output yet...] [ ah, here we go at last! ] # | Status | Type | Name | URI - --+--------+------+-----------------+------------------------------------------- 1 | Active | ZYPP | 20070216-072531 | cd:///?devices=/dev/hdc&alias=20070216-... 2 | Active | ZYPP | 20070216-192032 | http://suse.bifi.unizar.es/opensuse/dis... 3 | Active | ZYPP | 20070216-192152 | http://suse.bifi.unizar.es/opensuse/dis... 4 | Active | ZYPP | 20070216-193512 | ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/%2fpub/suse/update/10.2 real 33m44.703s user 0m0.988s sys 0m0.060s Ie, 33 minutes just to tell me just what services (repos) are there. It should answer instantly! But no, it had to connect and download the damm catalogue! See the /var/log/zmd-messages.log: 09 Mar 2007 19:36:36 INFO Daemon Starting ZMD version 7.1.100 09 Mar 2007 19:36:36 INFO Daemon Using Mono 1.1.18.1 09 Mar 2007 19:36:36 INFO KeyManager Loading key whitelist 09 Mar 2007 19:36:41 INFO Daemon Loading trusted certificates... 09 Mar 2007 19:36:41 WARN NetworkManagerModule Failed to connect to NetworkManager 09 Mar 2007 19:36:41 INFO PackageManagementModule Using ZYPP backend 09 Mar 2007 19:36:53 INFO RPMBackend Loading installed packages 09 Mar 2007 19:41:59 INFO RPMBackend Finished loading installed packages 09 Mar 2007 19:42:00 INFO ModuleLoader Loaded 'NetworkManager' - 'NetworkManager support' 09 Mar 2007 19:42:00 INFO ModuleLoader Loaded 'Package Management' - 'Package Management module for Linux' 09 Mar 2007 19:42:00 INFO ModuleLoader Loaded 'ZENworks Server' - 'SOAP methods used by a ZENworks server' 09 Mar 2007 19:42:00 INFO ModuleLoader Loaded 'XML-RPC interface' - 'Export ZMD public interfaces over XML-RPC' 09 Mar 2007 19:42:00 INFO ServiceManager Mounting Initial Services 09 Mar 2007 19:42:00 INFO ServiceManager Adding service (keeping if fail): @local 09 Mar 2007 19:42:01 INFO ServiceManager Successfully added service '@local' 09 Mar 2007 19:42:01 INFO ServiceManager Adding service (keeping if fail): cd:///?devices=/dev/hdc&alias=20070216-072531 09 Mar 2007 19:42:01 INFO ServiceManager Adding service (keeping if fail): http://suse.bifi.unizar.es/opensuse/distribution/10.2/repo/oss/?alias=200702... 09 Mar 2007 19:47:03 INFO ServiceManager Adding service (keeping if fail): http://suse.bifi.unizar.es/opensuse/distribution/10.2/repo/non-oss/?alias=20... 09 Mar 2007 19:55:45 INFO ServiceManager Adding service (keeping if fail): ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/%2fpub/suse/update/10.2 09 Mar 2007 19:55:46 INFO Daemon Waiting for services to mount... 09 Mar 2007 19:56:16 INFO ServiceManager Successfully added service '20070216-072531' 09 Mar 2007 19:57:45 INFO ServiceManager Successfully added service '20070216-192032' 09 Mar 2007 19:57:45 INFO ServiceManager Successfully added service '20070216-192152' 09 Mar 2007 19:57:45 INFO ServiceManager Successfully added service '20070216-193512' 09 Mar 2007 19:57:45 INFO WebCache Expiring cached files... 09 Mar 2007 19:57:45 INFO ServiceManager Finished Service Refresh 09 Mar 2007 19:57:45 INFO RPMBackend Updating status of patches... 09 Mar 2007 20:10:28 INFO RPMBackend Finished updating patch status 09 Mar 2007 20:10:28 INFO UnixWebServer Unix server listening for connections. 09 Mar 2007 20:10:28 WARN Daemon Not starting remote web server 09 Mar 2007 20:10:29 INFO DaemonHealth Current RSS size is 29020 KB - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFF8bLntTMYHG2NR9URAh6mAJ9zW3GRawvB2uE2jEwRQY710Nk3TwCglmYa UVZ+/CVfO7YmvwHDKh/ECPE= =Ovg9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Friday 09 March 2007, Carlos E. R. wrote:
The Friday 2007-03-09 at 09:23 -0900, John Andersen wrote: I have only four: the dvd, the oss repo, the non-oss repo, and the oficial update repo - lets ask rug what repos are configured:
nimrodel:~ # time rug sl
[ half an hour later, the command hasn't produced any output yet...] [ ah, here we go at last! ]
# | Status | Type | Name | URI --+--------+------+-----------------+------------------------------------------- 1 | Active | ZYPP | 20070216-072531 | cd:///?devices=/dev/hdc&alias=20070216-... 2 | Active | ZYPP | 20070216-192032 | http://suse.bifi.unizar.es/opensuse/dis... 3 | Active | ZYPP | 20070216-192152 | http://suse.bifi.unizar.es/opensuse/dis... 4 | Active | ZYPP | 20070216-193512 | ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/%2fpub/suse/update/10.2
real 33m44.703s user 0m0.988s sys 0m0.060s
Ie, 33 minutes just to tell me just what services (repos) are there. It should answer instantly! But no, it had to connect and download the damm catalogue!
I have one less, (deliberately removed the DVD), and my times on an old clunk dual celeron machine that I use for mail reading are only 7 minutes. Given that everything you do requires a download, it may help to choose faster mirrors. But clearly this is unacceptable. jsa@pen:/var/lib/zmd> time rug sl Waking up ZMD...Done # | Status | Type | Name | URI --+--------+------+-----------------+------------------------------------------- 1 | Active | ZYPP | 20060918-200641 | http://software.opensuse.org/download/r... 2 | Active | ZYPP | 20060918-202952 | http://mirror.mcs.anl.gov/suse/update/1... 3 | Active | ZYPP | 20061203-124928 | http://mirror.geht-schon.de/packman.lin... real 7m19.376s user 0m2.520s sys 0m0.156s -- _____________________________________ John Andersen -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Friday 09 March 2007, John Andersen wrote:
On Friday 09 March 2007, Carlos E. R. wrote:
The Friday 2007-03-09 at 09:23 -0900, John Andersen wrote: I have only four: the dvd, the oss repo, the non-oss repo, and the oficial update repo - lets ask rug what repos are configured:
nimrodel:~ # time rug sl
[ half an hour later, the command hasn't produced any output yet...] [ ah, here we go at last! ]
# | Status | Type | Name | URI --+--------+------+-----------------+------------------------------------------- 1 | Active | ZYPP | 20070216-072531 | cd:///?devices=/dev/hdc&alias=20070216-... 2 | Active | ZYPP | 20070216-192032 | http://suse.bifi.unizar.es/opensuse/dis... 3 | Active | ZYPP | 20070216-192152 | http://suse.bifi.unizar.es/opensuse/dis... 4 | Active | ZYPP | 20070216-193512 | ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/%2fpub/suse/update/10.2
real 33m44.703s user 0m0.988s sys 0m0.060s
Ie, 33 minutes just to tell me just what services (repos) are there. It should answer instantly! But no, it had to connect and download the damm catalogue!
I have one less, (deliberately removed the DVD), and my times on an old clunk dual celeron machine that I use for mail reading are only 7 minutes.
Given that everything you do requires a download, it may help to choose faster mirrors.
But clearly this is unacceptable.
jsa@pen:/var/lib/zmd> time rug sl Waking up ZMD...Done
# | Status | Type | Name | URI --+--------+------+-----------------+------------------------------------------- 1 | Active | ZYPP | 20060918-200641 | http://software.opensuse.org/download/r... 2 | Active | ZYPP | 20060918-202952 | http://mirror.mcs.anl.gov/suse/update/1... 3 | Active | ZYPP | 20061203-124928 | http://mirror.geht-schon.de/packman.lin...
real 7m19.376s user 0m2.520s sys 0m0.156s
Once done, or course subsequent calls to zmd are pretty fast: The second time i did this took 2 seconds sa@pen:/var/lib/zmd> time rug sl # | Status | Type | Name | URI --+--------+------+-----------------+------------------------------------------- 1 | Active | ZYPP | 20060918-200641 | http://software.opensuse.org/download/r... 2 | Active | ZYPP | 20060918-202952 | http://mirror.mcs.anl.gov/suse/update/1... 3 | Active | ZYPP | 20061203-124928 | http://mirror.geht-schon.de/packman.lin... real 0m2.473s user 0m2.636s sys 0m0.156s -- _____________________________________ John Andersen -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Friday 2007-03-09 at 10:40 -0900, John Andersen wrote:
Given that everything you do requires a download, it may help to choose faster mirrors.
They are fast enough... when using a browser. And three of them are static, only the update repo changes. 09 Mar 2007 19:42:01 INFO ServiceManager Successfully added service '@local' 09 Mar 2007 19:42:01 INFO ServiceManager Adding service (keeping if fail): cd:///?devices=/dev/hdc&alias=20070216-072531 09 Mar 2007 19:42:01 INFO ServiceManager Adding service (keeping if fail): http://suse.bifi.unizar.es/opensuse/distribution/10.2/repo/oss/?alias=200702... 09 Mar 2007 19:47:03 INFO ServiceManager Adding service (keeping if fail): http://suse.bifi.unizar.es/opensuse/distribution/10.2/repo/non-oss/?alias=20... 09 Mar 2007 19:55:45 INFO ServiceManager Adding service (keeping if fail): ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/%2fpub/suse/update/10.2 09 Mar 2007 19:55:46 INFO Daemon Waiting for services to mount... It takes 0 seconds on the dvd, 5 minutes on the oss repo, 8 on the non-oss, 0 on the updates... no, that must be wrong. 09 Mar 2007 19:55:46 INFO Daemon Waiting for services to mount... 09 Mar 2007 19:56:16 INFO ServiceManager Successfully added service '20070216-072531' 09 Mar 2007 19:57:45 INFO ServiceManager Successfully added service '20070216-192032' 09 Mar 2007 19:57:45 INFO ServiceManager Successfully added service '20070216-192152' 09 Mar 2007 19:57:45 INFO ServiceManager Successfully added service '20070216-193512' 09 Mar 2007 19:57:45 INFO WebCache Expiring cached files...
But clearly this is unacceptable.
Absolutely.
jsa@pen:/var/lib/zmd> time rug sl Waking up ZMD...Done
# | Status | Type | Name | URI --+--------+------+-----------------+------------------------------------------- 1 | Active | ZYPP | 20060918-200641 | http://software.opensuse.org/download/r... 2 | Active | ZYPP | 20060918-202952 | http://mirror.mcs.anl.gov/suse/update/1... 3 | Active | ZYPP | 20061203-124928 | http://mirror.geht-schon.de/packman.lin...
real 7m19.376s user 0m2.520s sys 0m0.156s
I have just stopped the zmd daemon, renamed the zmd.db file, and restarted the service. Notice the size difference: drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Mar 10 00:05 ./ drwxr-xr-x 67 root root 4096 Mar 9 02:32 ../ - -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3072 Mar 9 13:51 package-history.db - -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1215 Mar 10 00:05 services - -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 174 Mar 9 23:49 sleep-data - -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 559 Mar 6 13:52 subscriptions - -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 26385408 Mar 10 00:05 zmd.db - -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 33592320 Mar 9 22:49 zmd.db.bak - -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 264 Mar 7 14:52 zypp-owned-catalogs This time, it runs instantly: nimrodel:/var/lib/zmd # time rug sl # | Status | Type | Name | URI - --+--------+------+-----------------+------------------------------------------- 1 | Active | ZYPP | 20070216-072531 | cd:///?devices=/dev/hdc&alias=20070216-... 2 | Active | ZYPP | 20070216-192032 | http://suse.bifi.unizar.es/opensuse/dis... 3 | Active | ZYPP | 20070216-192152 | http://suse.bifi.unizar.es/opensuse/dis... 4 | Active | ZYPP | 20070216-193512 | ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/%2fpub/suse/update/10.2 real 0m1.613s user 0m1.064s sys 0m0.032s And now, I'm going to install something: nimrodel:/var/lib/zmd # time rug install zapping Resolving Dependencies... The following packages will be installed: zapping 0.9.6-51 (cd:///?devices=/dev/hdc&alias=20070216-072531) Transaction... 100% Transaction Finished real 12m51.869s user 0m16.133s sys 0m2.052s Well... that is reasonable, at least; but I don't feel it be so "fast" at all times. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFF81GItTMYHG2NR9URAqqQAKCFC0/V+KENL4yJ4nuTrkPlnOxUdgCfUSfX tQmQtf4R4doIwFV6K2xuuSA= =cRo7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Hi Carlos. El Viernes, 9 de Marzo de 2007, Carlos E. R. escribió:
The Friday 2007-03-09 at 09:23 -0900, John Andersen wrote:
It sounds to me like you have way too many duplicate repositories defined, OR your DB file /var/lib/zmd/zmd.db has gotten absurdly large or corrupted. (you can safely delete this after shutting down zmd with rczmd stop, then restart zmd again with rczmd start).
I have only four: the dvd, the oss repo, the non-oss repo, and the oficial update repo - lets ask rug what repos are configured:
nimrodel:~ # time rug sl
[ half an hour later, the command hasn't produced any output yet...] [ ah, here we go at last! ]
# | Status | Type | Name | URI --+--------+------+-----------------+-------------------------------------- ----- 1 | Active | ZYPP | 20070216-072531 | cd:///?devices=/dev/hdc&alias=20070216-... 2 | Active | ZYPP | 20070216-192032 | http://suse.bifi.unizar.es/opensuse/dis... 3 | Active | ZYPP | 20070216-192152 | http://suse.bifi.unizar.es/opensuse/dis... 4 | Active | ZYPP | 20070216-193512 | ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/%2fpub/suse/update/10.2
real 33m44.703s user 0m0.988s sys 0m0.060s
Ie, 33 minutes just to tell me just what services (repos) are there. It should answer instantly! But no, it had to connect and download the damm catalogue! See the /var/log/zmd-messages.log:
time to change to smart :-) smart works very fast and works very similar to apt-get, is the best package manager for opensuse at this time. if you want a graphical interface it has also smart-gui and ksmartray -- Un Saludo. Carlos Lorenzo Matés
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Friday 2007-03-09 at 21:32 +0100, Carlos Lorenzo Matés wrote:
time to change to smart :-)
No, sorry. I'll stay with SuSE provided tools, thankyou. :-) - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFF8dLNtTMYHG2NR9URAoAvAJ9Qn4AyzOFZKub6xGFv8nt27V4eVQCfSVfx kpB5K2yE+P+dBd1RiKMtUhQ= =amhZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
On Fri, Mar 09, 2007 at 10:34:02PM +0100, Carlos E. R. wrote:
time to change to smart :-)
No, sorry. I'll stay with SuSE provided tools, thankyou. :-)
I've given up on smart, it's flakier than the SuSE tools. I keep on getting these invalid header errors. I'll remove the cache, remove all traces of smart and reinstall, it will be OK for one run or so (but I will have lost all my repository info), then the next time "invalid header" again. I tried several versions of smart, and they all did similar flaky stuff. So, I am back to using "you", and it works mostly, although it keeps losing the info that my DVD is a DVD, and asks for CD1. I redo the installation sources thing, it will be OK for a run or two, then suddenly thinks my DVD has turned into a CD and errors out looking for CD1. I like SuSE (have run it since 7.1 or so), but the whole software installation and update thing has been in the crapper for way too long now. Michael -- If a kid asks where rain comes from, I think a cute thing to tell him is "God is crying." And if he asks why God is crying, another cute thing to tell him is "Probably because of something you did." -- Jack Handy San Francisco, CA -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
* Michael Nelson
I've given up on smart, it's flakier than the SuSE tools. I keep on getting these invalid header errors. I'll remove the cache, remove all traces of smart and reinstall, it will be OK for one run or so (but I will have lost all my repository info), then the next time "invalid header" again.
Well, you don't use an ax to repair a watch. You remove: /var/lib/smart/channels/* and /var/lib/smart/cache You probably have one bad source. I would suggest you post your sources or disable them all and inable one at a time and doing an update before enabling another until you find the culprit.
I tried several versions of smart, and they all did similar flaky stuff.
I have not that problem.
So, I am back to using "you", and it works mostly, although it keeps losing the info that my DVD is a DVD, and asks for CD1. I redo the installation sources thing, it will be OK for a run or two, then suddenly thinks my DVD has turned into a CD and errors out looking for CD1.
and that is somehow better than smart ???
I like SuSE (have run it since 7.1 or so), but the whole software installation and update thing has been in the crapper for way too long now.
It is good that you approve of and support my distro. -- Patrick Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org @ http://counter.li.org HOG # US1244711 Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 OpenSUSE Linux http://en.opensuse.org/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Hi. El Viernes, 9 de Marzo de 2007, Carlos E. R. escribió:
The Friday 2007-03-09 at 21:32 +0100, Carlos Lorenzo Matés wrote:
time to change to smart :-)
No, sorry. I'll stay with SuSE provided tools, thankyou. :-)
Is up to you, keep waiting hours, i do my updates in minutes :-) smart is a suse provided tool, it comes in the standar distribution cd. -- Un Saludo. Carlos Lorenzo Matés
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Saturday 2007-03-10 at 21:54 +0100, Carlos Lorenzo Matés wrote:
time to change to smart :-)
No, sorry. I'll stay with SuSE provided tools, thankyou. :-)
Is up to you, keep waiting hours, i do my updates in minutes :-)
smart is a suse provided tool, it comes in the standar distribution cd.
You are right. But by simply removing zmd Yast is also quite fast. I'm seriously considering it. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFF81HAtTMYHG2NR9URAoIKAJ9h31HnxYv4Cw5++ozMO9YtHvuWaQCfREIG Y+Wsv8TiPyCCDgjQQjWAQhw= =sgQY -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
Hi. El Domingo, 11 de Marzo de 2007, Carlos E. R. escribió:
The Saturday 2007-03-10 at 21:54 +0100, Carlos Lorenzo Matés wrote:
time to change to smart :-)
No, sorry. I'll stay with SuSE provided tools, thankyou. :-)
Is up to you, keep waiting hours, i do my updates in minutes :-)
smart is a suse provided tool, it comes in the standar distribution cd.
You are right.
But by simply removing zmd Yast is also quite fast. I'm seriously considering it.
Yes, deactivating zmd is one of the first things i do when installing a new system. It eats a lot of resouces. I feel more comfortable with smart. -- Un Saludo. Carlos Lorenzo Matés
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Carlos Lorenzo Matés escribió:
Hi.
El Domingo, 11 de Marzo de 2007, Carlos E. R. escribi�:
The Saturday 2007-03-10 at 21:54 +0100, Carlos Lorenzo Mat�s wrote:
time to change to smart :-) No, sorry. I'll stay with SuSE provided tools, thankyou. :-) Is up to you, keep waiting hours, i do my updates in minutes :-)
smart is a suse provided tool, it comes in the standar distribution cd. You are right.
But by simply removing zmd Yast is also quite fast. I'm seriously considering it.
Yes, deactivating zmd is one of the first things i do when installing a new system. It eats a lot of resouces. I feel more comfortable with smart.
Hi completely in agreement with you,for now,smart is the best(for me at least). regards - -- Chema Ollés Usuario Linux: #198057 openSUSE 10.3 (i586) Alpha2 kernel-2.6.20-9-default #1 SMP Thu Mar 1 19:12:21 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.1rc1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFF9Hi+m5lTdgS9W18RAkUSAJ9hbn4BqhgmtT3sgxacpWhTwtPuFQCfUzwX h6xBU2gMrRxyEDhRYv3bq30= =zGsK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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