On 02/12/2012 09:24 PM, John Andersen wrote:

On 2/12/2012 12:22 PM, Swapnil Bhartiya wrote:

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Hi,

I have been using openSUSE for a few months now and loving it and have started recommending it to users as well. There is one issues. If you have other Linux OSes installed on your system openSUSE can't see them. Why is so and what is the possible solution?

Swapnil Bhartiya

Ir you want to see them, simply add those partitions to your fstab.

Oh, apologies for confusion. I mean I can't see them during boot. openSUSE boot menu only shows openSUSE and not Linux Mint and Debian which were also installed on the same machine. Swapnil

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On 02/12/2012 09:37 PM, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

* Swapnil Bhartiya [02-12-12 15:32]:

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On 02/12/2012 09:24 PM, John Andersen wrote:

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On 2/12/2012 12:22 PM, Swapnil Bhartiya wrote:

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Hi,

I have been using openSUSE for a few months now and loving it and have started recommending it to users as well. There is one issues. If you have other Linux OSes installed on your system openSUSE can't see them. Why is so and what is the possible solution?

Swapnil Bhartiya

Ir you want to see them, simply add those partitions to your fstab.

Oh, apologies for confusion. I mean I can't see them during boot. openSUSE boot menu only shows openSUSE and not Linux Mint and Debian which were also installed on the same machine.

Felix answered this in another thread earlier today. The other "linux" distros are undoubtedly using grub2 which openSUSE cannot read, but he gave a simple example to add those other distros to openSUSE's grub.

Thanks. I will search for that thread and pass that info to such users. Thanks again. Best Swapnil -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 02/12/2012 09:56 PM, Felix Miata wrote:

On 2012/02/12 21:39 (GMT+0100) Swapnil Bhartiya composed:

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Swapnil Bhartiya composed:

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Oh, apologies for confusion. I mean I can't see them during boot. openSUSE boot menu only shows openSUSE and not Linux Mint and Debian which were also installed on the same machine.

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Felix answered this in another thread earlier today. The other "linux" distros are undoubtedly using grub2 which openSUSE cannot read, but he gave a simple example to add those other distros to openSUSE's grub.

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Thanks. I will search for that thread and pass that info to such users.

4 hours old: http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse/2012-02/msg00601.html

Oh. Nice. I asked the same on my G+ and someone recommended that while installing openSUSE just don't install the grub and then boot into *buntu and run sudo update-grub This will show all distros in the boot menu. I am not sure which method is better if one has more than one distros on the same machine. Thanks Swapnil -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 13/02/12 08:15, Swapnil Bhartiya wrote:

On 02/12/2012 09:56 PM, Felix Miata wrote:

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On 2012/02/12 21:39 (GMT+0100) Swapnil Bhartiya composed:

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Patrick Shanahan wrote:

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Swapnil Bhartiya composed:

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Oh, apologies for confusion. I mean I can't see them during boot. openSUSE boot menu only shows openSUSE and not Linux Mint and Debian which were also installed on the same machine.

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Felix answered this in another thread earlier today. The other "linux" distros are undoubtedly using grub2 which openSUSE cannot read, but he gave a simple example to add those other distros to openSUSE's grub.

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Thanks. I will search for that thread and pass that info to such users.

4 hours old: http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse/2012-02/msg00601.html

Just want to share, I don't use any *buntus anymore. I do have Debian and Linux Mint..

But Mint *IS* Ubuntu, rebadged. BC -- Aspire to inspire before you expire. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 13/02/12 16:20, Basil Chupin wrote:

On 13/02/12 07:37, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

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* Swapnil Bhartiya [02-12-12 15:32]:

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On 02/12/2012 09:24 PM, John Andersen wrote:

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On 2/12/2012 12:22 PM, Swapnil Bhartiya wrote:

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Hi,

I have been using openSUSE for a few months now and loving it and have started recommending it to users as well. There is one issues. If you have other Linux OSes installed on your system openSUSE can't see them. Why is so and what is the possible solution?

Swapnil Bhartiya Ir you want to see them, simply add those partitions to your fstab. Oh, apologies for confusion. I mean I can't see them during boot. openSUSE boot menu only shows openSUSE and not Linux Mint and Debian which were also installed on the same machine. Felix answered this in another thread earlier today. The other "linux" distros are undoubtedly using grub2 which openSUSE cannot read, but he gave a simple example to add those other distros to openSUSE's grub.

I am rather puzzled by this (so what else is new, you ask?): when I boot 12.1 I see on the screen "Grub2 starting" - yep, "Grub2". So, who is telling porkies? :-)

BC

Mea culpa! I unreservedly and without any caveats rescind the above statement! :-) . What I see is, "loading Grub stage 2" or words to this effect. (Ah well, can't win them all :-) .) BC -- Aspire to inspire before you expire. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 13/02/12 07:34, Sven Burmeister wrote:

Am Sonntag, 12. Februar 2012, 21:22:49 schrieb Swapnil Bhartiya:

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Hi,

I have been using openSUSE for a few months now and loving it and have started recommending it to users as well. There is one issues. If you have other Linux OSes installed on your system openSUSE can't see them. Why is so and what is the possible solution? AFAIK because openSUSE does not use GRUB2.

I ask this question with great trepidation and much quick-beating of the heart: why should openSUSE's Grub not see any systems using Grub2? (But, please, do not change to Grub2 because Grub is so much easier to use.) BC -- Aspire to inspire before you expire. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On Mon, 2012-02-13 at 02:10 -0500, Felix Miata wrote:

On 2012/02/13 16:47 (GMT+1100) Basil Chupin composed:

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AFAIK because openSUSE does not use GRUB2.

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I ask this question with great trepidation and much quick-beating of the heart: why should openSUSE's Grub not see any systems using Grub2?

openSUSE's Grub isn't what puts stanzas from menu.lsts it finds during installation into the new openSUSE menu.lst it creates. YaST and/or perl-Bootloader or whatever combination of tools responsible for it all will have to be trained to parse Grub2's menu.cfg files and extract the info to build Legacy Grub stanzas from. That will require both the knowledge and available time investment to make happen, something I don't expect to see before such time as openSUSE devs choose to implement Grub2 fully.

In the mean time, possibly someone could implement some minimal recognition in order to include simple chainloader entries to partitions found to have Grub2 installed. The problem with that is foreign distros almost always put the bootloader on the MBR, which openSUSE installation again won't be able to cope with until a full implementation is made, so only some foreign distros would ever make into menu.lst entries even via chainloader stanzas.

I too don't like Grub2, which I feel is in many ways overkill, excessively demanding and complicated, besides being very foreign compared to Legacy Grub. openSUSE might be better off never adopting Grub2, possibly making use of AiR-Boot or something else in order to overcome Legacy Grub's limitations WRT RAID, GPT and whatever else the future will demand openSUSE better support. --

Not a lot of people are fond of changing things that are considered to be black-sorcery (hence people stay with grub-legacy). And it is not only John Doe who is not pleased with grub2: Quoting Alan Cox (other list): "Grub2 is not the future. Grub2 is an unfortunatele accident on the way. However, it seems (!) grub2 can deliver some long anticipated goods: 1) btrfs for /boot 2) recognizeing disks/raids larger that 2TB. (might be urban legand) 3) encrypted /boot (wonder how..) However there seems to be many pittfals: - yast being able (yet) to create grub2-config files - not being able to upgrade from grub1 to grub2 (it seems that grub1 is content with an additional space of 63 sectors, while grub2 demands atleast 2048 secors). Which might not be a problem for fresh install, but could be for upgrading older systems. hw -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 2012-02-13 12:38, Hans Witvliet wrote:

3) encrypted /boot (wonder how..)

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