[opensuse] RUnning kde and lxde on same home
I want to be able to have the option to boot into LXDE or KDE. Right now I simply have it set up as when the login screen comes up, I can choose. I have not separated the home directories or anything like that. I have seen some posts that indicate that it is best to separate the home directories and then symlink the next level down for things like pictures, documents, etc. What I would like to know is what is the best way to go about setting it up? How do I get the kernel to look to /home2 instead of /home when I log in to LXDE instead of KDE? Or is there some other way to do this? -- G.O. Box #1: 12.1 | KDE 4.9.1 | AMD Phenom IIX4 | 64 | ATI Radeon HD 3300 | 16GB Box #2: 12.1 | KDE 4.9.1 | AMD Athlon X3 | 64 | nVidia C61 GeForce 7025 | 4GB Laptop: 12.1 | KDE 4.9.1 | Core i7-2620M | 64 | Intel HD Graphics 3000 | 8GB learning openSUSE and loving it -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 09/23/12 19:58, George Olson pecked at the keyboard and wrote:
I want to be able to have the option to boot into LXDE or KDE. Right now I simply have it set up as when the login screen comes up, I can choose. I have not separated the home directories or anything like that.
I have seen some posts that indicate that it is best to separate the home directories and then symlink the next level down for things like pictures, documents, etc. What I would like to know is what is the best way to go about setting it up? How do I get the kernel to look to /home2 instead of /home when I log in to LXDE instead of KDE? Or is there some other way to do this?
The kernel has nothing to do with your login home dir. It is set in /etc/passwd. -- Ken Schneider SuSe since Version 5.2, June 1998 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 09/24/2012 08:52 PM, Ken Schneider - openSUSE wrote:
The kernel has nothing to do with your login home dir. It is set in /etc/passwd.
Ok, excellent, thanks. I will look there. -- G.O. Box #1: 12.1 | KDE 4.8.5 | AMD Phenom IIX4 | 64 | ATI Radeon HD 3300 | 16GB Box #2: 12.1 | KDE 4.9.1 | AMD Athlon X3 | 64 | nVidia C61 GeForce 7025 | 4GB Laptop: 12.1 | KDE 4.9.1 | Core i7-2620M | 64 | Intel HD Graphics 3000 | 8GB learning openSUSE and loving it -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 24/09/12 00:58, George Olson wrote:
I want to be able to have the option to boot into LXDE or KDE. Right now I simply have it set up as when the login screen comes up, I can choose. I have not separated the home directories or anything like that.
I have seen some posts that indicate that it is best to separate the home directories
Can you give references? What reasons might you have for wanting to do this - KDE and LXDE shouldn't interfere with each other ... Dylan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 09/24/2012 09:07 PM, Dylan wrote:
On 24/09/12 00:58, George Olson wrote:
I want to be able to have the option to boot into LXDE or KDE. Right now I simply have it set up as when the login screen comes up, I can choose. I have not separated the home directories or anything like that.
I have seen some posts that indicate that it is best to separate the home directories
Can you give references? What reasons might you have for wanting to do this - KDE and LXDE shouldn't interfere with each other ...
Dylan
The idea came to be some time back (I can't remember the thread) when someone said that it is better to not have 2 desktops using the same home directories. The reason was that the .configuration files might conflict with each other or something like that. If it is not necessary to have separate home partitions for the desktops and they won't interfere with each other, then I will leave things as they are. So then I read some related ideas, like Dave Howorth in the recent thread "Dual boot OS 12.2 & Ubuntu 10.04" said "Yes but for sanity I would recommend separate home directories and then symlink the next level down together (Pictures, Documents etc). That way all the .configuration files for each system are kept separate but your own files are shared." I realize that is not the same thing I am talking about because he is talking about 2 different OS. So I was thinking if you did that for the 2 different OS, then that would also be the same way to keep the .configuration files for 2 different desktops separate. Which, now that it comes up, brings up another question that I have about that, but maybe I should put it in another thread. I want to upgrade to 12.2 on a separate partition but have all the same data and applications available. I will put this on another thread. -- G.O. Box #1: 12.1 | KDE 4.8.5 | AMD Phenom IIX4 | 64 | ATI Radeon HD 3300 | 16GB Box #2: 12.1 | KDE 4.9.1 | AMD Athlon X3 | 64 | nVidia C61 GeForce 7025 | 4GB Laptop: 12.1 | KDE 4.9.1 | Core i7-2620M | 64 | Intel HD Graphics 3000 | 8GB learning openSUSE and loving it -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
George Olson said the following on 09/24/2012 05:06 PM:
On 09/24/2012 09:07 PM, Dylan wrote:
On 24/09/12 00:58, George Olson wrote:
I want to be able to have the option to boot into LXDE or KDE. Right now I simply have it set up as when the login screen comes up, I can choose. I have not separated the home directories or anything like that.
I have seen some posts that indicate that it is best to separate the home directories
Can you give references? What reasons might you have for wanting to do this - KDE and LXDE shouldn't interfere with each other ...
Dylan
The idea came to be some time back (I can't remember the thread) when someone said that it is better to not have 2 desktops using the same home directories. The reason was that the .configuration files might conflict with each other or something like that.
I can't imagine how they would. Each DM has its own config and each application has its own config. If you want to run, say, GIMP or INKSCAPE or LIBREOFFICE then you want the same settings (language options, defaults, font options etc) whichever DM you are using. Some people "live" in one application, their browser of choice, perhaps, and don't care what the DM is.
If it is not necessary to have separate home partitions for the desktops and they won't interfere with each other, then I will leave things as they are.
Right.
So then I read some related ideas, like Dave Howorth in the recent thread "Dual boot OS 12.2 & Ubuntu 10.04" said "Yes but for sanity I would recommend separate home directories and then symlink the next level down together (Pictures, Documents etc). That way all the .configuration files for each system are kept separate but your own files are shared."
I realize that is not the same thing I am talking about because he is talking about 2 different OS. So I was thinking if you did that for the 2 different OS, then that would also be the same way to keep the .configuration files for 2 different desktops separate.
You are pushing it. Perhaps different /etc is warranted. and perhaps different /usr in parts. There may be things like apt-get and yast/zypper in conflict, and confusion on the part of a shared RPM database. But this is system-level. As I said above, configuration files for applications should not be an issue. That being said, I can think of one situation where they could be, but it has nothing to do with dual-boot systems or dual DM systems. It is possible to have different versions of an application installed, and a shell script determining which binary and libraries to use. For example you might have "firefox-13", "firefox-14" and "firefox-15" scripts that refer to "/usr/lib/firefox-13/" etc. Unless you use different profiles using the same configuration files might lead to conflict between those versions. The same would apply to any application. This has nothing to do with the DM.
Which, now that it comes up, brings up another question that I have about that, but maybe I should put it in another thread. I want to upgrade to 12.2 on a separate partition but have all the same data and applications available. I will put this on another thread.
If you use the combined root+usr approach that has been discussed in other threads then this should not be a problem. Lets see: all the way back to the 1980s SUN and others implemented a "roving profile" type of NFS login. Each machine had its own /etc/ and system files and used a YP/NIS database for name/password so you could log in anywhere. On login you got your "home" connected via NFS. We still have this today using PAM to make it simpler :-) I have my "home/anton" native on the file server, which is running Mandriva. My desktop is a Fedora machine that I've just upgraded to F17 and has a combines root+usr. My HP laptop still runs Suse 11.4. The printer is on the Mandriva machine. Occasionally I drag out my fathers old Acer laptop which runs Windows XP and a tax program that my accountant insists on. I can access my tax files that are under /home/anton/Documents/ on the server via SAMBA. The point here is that so long as I keep things like Thunderbird, Firefox, LibreOffice up to date on the four machines I can access my mail, browse the web, edit documents, Oh did I mentioned edit photos with GIMP? Well that too, on any of the machines. I'll admit that I can get into a problem that you can't with a "mere" dual boot configuration: I can be editing the same file on two machines and have a conflict. :-) Silly me! -- ASCII stupid question, get a stupid ANSI -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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