Re: [opensuse] Unstable system - culprit identified
Per Jessen wrote:
David C. Rankin wrote:
I suspect it may be worth a bug report to investigate given that we now have a Gigabyte and Tyan boards experiencing the same thing. I searched bugzilla.novell.com and didn't find any other entries. Did you file a bug report? If not, I'll try and get one in next week.
No, I didn't think it was really something for SUSE to get involved with. Your case sounds different though.
So, your machine will lock up at random? Do you have any keyboard LEDs flashing?
/Per
Yes, now that you mention it, when it locks, the cap lock and scroll lock lights flash at approximately 1 second intervals. What does this tell me? -- David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Sunday 2008-03-30 at 14:09 -0500, David C. Rankin wrote:
So, your machine will lock up at random? Do you have any keyboard LEDs flashing?
Yes, now that you mention it, when it locks, the cap lock and scroll lock lights flash at approximately 1 second intervals. What does this tell me?
Kernel lock. The kernel panicked or crashed and tell you that. It is not a hardware crash. I mean, it may be related to hardware, but it is the software who crashed. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFH7+2KtTMYHG2NR9URAltfAKCSVvGjCVwKM29jyhPj2wlqzTTiVwCcCbdp cv0JgAgB/ozhyXXY8Hrsw4I= =M0cl -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Carlos E. R. wrote:
The Sunday 2008-03-30 at 14:09 -0500, David C. Rankin wrote:
So, your machine will lock up at random? Do you have any keyboard LEDs flashing?
Yes, now that you mention it, when it locks, the cap lock and scroll lock lights flash at approximately 1 second intervals. What does this tell me?
Kernel lock. The kernel panicked or crashed and tell you that. It is not a hardware crash. I mean, it may be related to hardware, but it is the software who crashed.
-- Cheers, Carlos E. R.
Hmm, this adds to my growing theory that something has not quite caught up to some of the new chipsets and bioses that the HW vendors are using to support the multicore AMD processors. One prime candidate is the larger bios files that are used with the x86_64 motherboards. The Award bios included with the Tyan board uses enough additional resources that it prevent the memtest86+ that is distributed with 10.3 from even being able to load. (memtest86+-1.70-40) I had to download memtest86+ Ver. 2.01 in order to get memtest to work. On the Tyan board, the bios RAM map looks like this: BIOS-provided physical RAM map: BIOS-e820: 0000000000000000 - 0000000000094800 (usable) BIOS-e820: 0000000000094800 - 00000000000a0000 (reserved) BIOS-e820: 00000000000f0000 - 0000000000100000 (reserved) BIOS-e820: 0000000000100000 - 000000007fee0000 (usable) BIOS-e820: 000000007fee0000 - 000000007fee3000 (ACPI NVS) BIOS-e820: 000000007fee3000 - 000000007fef0000 (ACPI data) BIOS-e820: 000000007fef0000 - 000000007ff00000 (reserved) BIOS-e820: 00000000e0000000 - 00000000f0000000 (reserved) BIOS-e820: 00000000fec00000 - 0000000100000000 (reserved) I wonder if the problem may be the kernel's inability to deal with the increased bios ram map size which is causing the kernel to crash when it tries to read from a memory range it thinks it owns but is actually used by the bios? I think I'll start with bugzilla.novell and see if they can get the kernel guys involved. (Jan -- are you there??) Your thoughts? -- David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
David C. Rankin wrote:
I think I'll start with bugzilla.novell and see if they can get the kernel guys involved.
List, Per, Jan, I went ahead and filed a bug report on my issue. https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=376165 Jan, feel free to add anything that I wasn't smart enough to remember to include... Thanks -- David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
David C. Rankin wrote:
Per Jessen wrote:
David C. Rankin wrote:
I suspect it may be worth a bug report to investigate given that we now have a Gigabyte and Tyan boards experiencing the same thing. I searched bugzilla.novell.com and didn't find any other entries. Did you file a bug report? If not, I'll try and get one in next week.
No, I didn't think it was really something for SUSE to get involved with. Your case sounds different though.
So, your machine will lock up at random? Do you have any keyboard LEDs flashing?
/Per
Yes, now that you mention it, when it locks, the cap lock and scroll lock lights flash at approximately 1 second intervals. What does this tell me?
Danger Will Robinson! Aliens Approaching! Run Away! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Sam Clemens wrote:
David C. Rankin wrote:
Per Jessen wrote:
David C. Rankin wrote:
I suspect it may be worth a bug report to investigate given that we now have a Gigabyte and Tyan boards experiencing the same thing. I searched bugzilla.novell.com and didn't find any other entries. Did you file a bug report? If not, I'll try and get one in next week.
No, I didn't think it was really something for SUSE to get involved with. Your case sounds different though.
So, your machine will lock up at random? Do you have any keyboard LEDs flashing?
/Per
Yes, now that you mention it, when it locks, the cap lock and scroll lock lights flash at approximately 1 second intervals. What does this tell me?
Danger Will Robinson! Aliens Approaching! Run Away!
Too late, they're already inside the system 8-o -- David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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