[opensuse] Two versions of openSUSE, but the second won't boot up...
Hi all, I got a new 40 GB hdd the other day so that I could install openSUSE 10.3 on it to use as my 'game' drive (I have a Crossover thing that just doesn't work well with 11.3, unfortunately) What I did, was I unplugged the 11.3 hdd from the MOBO, installed the new hdd, plugged it in *on the SATA 3 plug (there's 4, 11.3 is on 1, the CD/DVD writer is on 2 and now 10.3 on 3) and turned the system on and installed 10.3 on it. Then, I plugged my 11.3 back in and started up the system and got into 11.3 to put the new hdd in my GRUB. I've chosen almost all the choices that GRUB had (using YaST) to put the new hdd/10.3 in the bootup selection menu (where I now have the penguins permanently walking back and forth, on purpose btw). Nothing I've chosen works. When I get to the menu where I can select what to do (11.3, 10.3, 11.3 failsafe, floppy), if I choose 10.3 it starts the GRUB for it and then brings me right back to the choice menu again. Is there something I'm missing? Should I install 10.3 again but leave my 11.3 plugged in and start up with the 10.3 in the cd/dvd writer and try it that way and hope that install doesn't screw up enough that I can no longer get in 11.3? JB -- "Properly read, the Bible is the most potent force for atheism ever conceived." -Isaac Asimov -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Insomniac wrote:
Nothing I've chosen works. When I get to the menu where I can select what to do (11.3, 10.3, 11.3 failsafe, floppy), if I choose 10.3 it starts the GRUB for it and then brings me right back to the choice menu again.
Is there something I'm missing? Should I install 10.3 again but leave my 11.3 plugged in and start up with the 10.3 in the cd/dvd writer and try it that way and hope that install doesn't screw up enough that I can no longer get in 11.3?
This sounds like a problem with the 10.3 grub installation. You created it without the 11.3 disk plugged in. So grub's disk numbering (hd0 etc) will be wrong after you plugged the 11.3 disk back in again. And if 10.3 still used /dev/sda (my memory fails me) that will be wrong as well. So my bet is you need to edit the 10.3 grub menu to correct those features. You could do it by reinstalling, or experiment with the grub command line and edit the file by hand. Or you could edit the 11.3 grub to directly load 10.3, instead of loading 10.3's grub. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 2011/07/01 11:18 (GMT-0400) Insomniac composed:
I got a new 40 GB hdd the other day so that I could install openSUSE 10.3 on it to use as my 'game' drive (I have a Crossover thing that just doesn't work well with 11.3, unfortunately)
What I did, was I unplugged the 11.3 hdd from the MOBO,
Why? openSUSE is not Windows. :-)
installed the new hdd, plugged it in *on the SATA 3 plug (there's 4, 11.3 is on 1, the CD/DVD writer is on 2 and now 10.3 on 3) and turned the system on and installed 10.3 on it.
Are you sure you wrote exactly what you meant to write? IIUC, during 10.3 installation (following 11.3 installation) 1=empty 2=reader 3=10.3 target 4=empty After 1=11.3 HD 2=reader 3=10.3 4=empty
Then, I plugged my 11.3 back in and started up the system and got into 11.3 to put the new hdd in my GRUB.
OK, so 11.3 still works. :-)
I've chosen almost all the choices that GRUB had (using YaST) to put the new hdd/10.3 in the bootup selection menu (where I now have the penguins permanently walking back and forth, on purpose btw).
On purpose here too, from 10.2, used as my _real_ (master) boot partition on many systems.
Nothing I've chosen works. When I get to the menu where I can select what to do (11.3, 10.3, 11.3 failsafe, floppy), if I choose 10.3 it starts the GRUB for it and then brings me right back to the choice menu again.
When you installed 10.3, connector 3 was sda or hda. Now after pluging the 11.3 HD back in, it's sdb or hdb.
Is there something I'm missing? Should I install 10.3 again but leave my 11.3 plugged in and start up with the 10.3 in the cd/dvd writer and try it that way and hope that install doesn't screw up enough that I can no longer get in 11.3?
Actually it can be fixed more quickly without reinstalling, but reinstalling would work too if you specify to install 10.3's Grub _only_ on the 10.3 root partition. Leaving your 11.3's menu.txt alone at least for the time being, just start up a grub shell from a root login in 11.3, then grub> find /boot/grub/stage1 # shows you what partition 10.3's Grub is on grub> root (hd1,0) # substitute for 0 whatever was shown in prior command grub> setup (hd1,0 # ditto grub> quit Now mount the 10.3 root partition somewhere where you can edit 10.3's /boot/grub/menu.lst and /etc/fstab as and if necessary. If those files refer to sda or hda and (hd0,x) they'll need to be changed to sdb or hdb and (hd1,x). Once those things are done your current 11.3's selection to boot 10.3 should work. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday, June 30, 2011 11:02 Felix Miata wrote:
On 2011/07/01 11:18 (GMT-0400) Insomniac composed:
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Actually it can be fixed more quickly without reinstalling, but reinstalling would work too if you specify to install 10.3's Grub _only_ on the 10.3 root partition.
Leaving your 11.3's menu.txt alone at least for the time being, just start up a grub shell from a root login in 11.3, then
grub> find /boot/grub/stage1 # shows you what partition 10.3's Grub is on
I did this and this is what I got: (hd0,0) (hd1,0)
grub> root (hd1,0) # substitute for 0 whatever was shown in prior command grub> setup (hd1,0 # ditto grub> quit
Because of what I got with the 'find' thing, I'm not sure I understand what I'm supposed to do now.
Now mount the 10.3 root partition somewhere where you can edit 10.3's /boot/grub/menu.lst and /etc/fstab as and if necessary. If those files refer to sda or hda and (hd0,x) they'll need to be changed to sdb or hdb and (hd1,x).
Once those things are done your current 11.3's selection to boot 10.3 should work.
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On 2011/06/30 18:01 (GMT-0500) Insomniac composed:
Felix Miata wrote:
On 2011/07/01 11:18 (GMT-0400) Insomniac composed:
Actually it can be fixed more quickly without reinstalling, but reinstalling would work too if you specify to install 10.3's Grub _only_ on the 10.3 root partition.
Leaving your 11.3's menu.txt alone at least for the time being, just start up a grub shell from a root login in 11.3, then
grub> find /boot/grub/stage1 # shows you what partition 10.3's Grub is on
I did this and this is what I got: (hd0,0) (hd1,0)
That told you 11.3's Grub is on sda1 and 10.3's Grub is on sdb1.
grub> root (hd1,0) # substitute for 0 whatever was shown in prior command grub> setup (hd1,0 # ditto grub> quit
Because of what I got with the 'find' thing, I'm not sure I understand what I'm supposed to do now.
Now that you know where Grub is, it needs to be "installed" to match its physical location. Each when installed, because you removed the 11.3 HD to install 10.3, was installed to what was sda1 at installation time. But now 10.3's is on sdb1, so needs to be "installed" there, exactly as I had anticipated (notwithstanding my reply's typo): grub> root (hd1,0) grub> setup (hd1,0) grub> quit http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/legacy/grub.html#Installing-GRUB-nat... explains in more detail. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Friday, July 01, 2011 10:18 Insomniac wrote:
Hi all,
I got a new 40 GB hdd the other day so that I could install openSUSE 10.3 on it to use as my 'game' drive (I have a Crossover thing that just doesn't work well with 11.3, unfortunately)
What I did, was I unplugged the 11.3 hdd from the MOBO, installed the new hdd, plugged it in *on the SATA 3 plug (there's 4, 11.3 is on 1, the CD/DVD writer is on 2 and now 10.3 on 3) and turned the system on and installed 10.3 on it.
Then, I plugged my 11.3 back in and started up the system and got into 11.3 to put the new hdd in my GRUB.
I've chosen almost all the choices that GRUB had (using YaST) to put the new hdd/10.3 in the bootup selection menu (where I now have the penguins permanently walking back and forth, on purpose btw).
Nothing I've chosen works. When I get to the menu where I can select what to do (11.3, 10.3, 11.3 failsafe, floppy), if I choose 10.3 it starts the GRUB for it and then brings me right back to the choice menu again.
Is there something I'm missing? Should I install 10.3 again but leave my 11.3 plugged in and start up with the 10.3 in the cd/dvd writer and try it that way and hope that install doesn't screw up enough that I can no longer get in 11.3?
JB
Got it solved, folks. Thanks for the assistance! -- "Properly read, the Bible is the most potent force for atheism ever conceived." -Isaac Asimov -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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