All, Anyone familiar with dreamhost? Are their servers always slow? Maybe they are faster in the middle of the night? Anyway, I noticed how cost-effective Dreamhost was last week. Decided this morning I would sign-up for their 300GB plan and use it as an offsite DR site via rsync. The functionality is there (ssh / rsync / login by keys or password), but so far I'm not very happy. The price is great, but they seem _really_ slow. I can handle slow network bandwidth for my needs, but I need their server to be somewhat responsive to rsync activity. My plan is to keep about 150GB of slowly changing (encrypted) data archived at Dreamhost as a DR site. So far I've only got 1 GB there and it feels very slow to do anything. ie. At arizona.dreamhost.com, "du -sh ." on my 1 GB of data takes a couple minutes to finish. The same thing on my local machine is 10 seconds or less, even when its busy. I'm concerned that by the time I have 150GB of data there doing an rsync even with minimal changes will take too long. (This is part of my nightly backup. In theory I can take almost 24 hours, but I hope it is faster than that.) Has anyone tried anything like this with dreamhost? Greg -- Greg Freemyer The Norcross Group Forensics for the 21st Century -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Monday 19 March 2007, Cristian Rodriguez R. wrote:
Greg Freemyer escribió:
Has anyone tried anything like this with dreamhost?
Yes and they are probably one the best in the "mass virtual hosting market".
If you have different needs, your next step is probably a VPS.
They are far from the best and far from the cheapest, and god help you if you need to talk to a sentient being for tech support. Try Your--Site.com - $60/Year, live bodies, choice of Windows or Linux hosting. Responsive. Usual Disclaimers apply. -- _____________________________________ John Andersen -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
John Andersen wrote:
On Monday 19 March 2007, Cristian Rodriguez R. wrote:
Greg Freemyer escribió:
Has anyone tried anything like this with dreamhost?
Yes and they are probably one the best in the "mass virtual hosting market".
If you have different needs, your next step is probably a VPS.
They are far from the best and far from the cheapest, and god help you if you need to talk to a sentient being for tech support.
Try Your--Site.com - $60/Year, live bodies, choice of Windows or Linux hosting. Responsive. Usual Disclaimers apply.
I use Amazon Simple Storage Service (Amazon S3), which is cheap and fast! http://aws.amazon.com/s3 I recommend using JungleDisk (http://www.jungledisk.com/) for easy access to your S3 repository. /J -- "In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. But, in practice, there is." - Jan L.A. Van De Snepscheut -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 3/20/07, Jan Karjalainen <jrock@fmbv.nu> wrote:
John Andersen wrote:
On Monday 19 March 2007, Cristian Rodriguez R. wrote:
Greg Freemyer escribió:
Has anyone tried anything like this with dreamhost?
Yes and they are probably one the best in the "mass virtual hosting market".
If you have different needs, your next step is probably a VPS.
They are far from the best and far from the cheapest, and god help you if you need to talk to a sentient being for tech support.
Try Your--Site.com - $60/Year, live bodies, choice of Windows or Linux hosting. Responsive. Usual Disclaimers apply.
I use Amazon Simple Storage Service (Amazon S3), which is cheap and fast! http://aws.amazon.com/s3
I recommend using JungleDisk (http://www.jungledisk.com/) for easy access to your S3 repository.
/J
I was just looking thru the JungleDisk forum. It says they support rsync, but only with the --inplace arg and they are recommending --size-only. --inplace would cause a file to be lost if my computer crashed in the middle of transferring it. Not exactly what I need in a DR offsite repository. (They say rsync normally needs a rename capability and S3 doesn't support it (as of June 06). --inplace eliminates the requirement.). --size-only also seems like a bad idea. They don't say why they recommend it. Greg -- Greg Freemyer The Norcross Group Forensics for the 21st Century -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Greg Freemyer wrote:
--size-only also seems like a bad idea. They don't say why they recommend it.
Probably speed. If you use --size-only rsync only has to check the size of each file; it doesn't have to checksum them to see which ones have changed. As you say, probably a bad idea. It's not hard to think of scenarios where you could edit a file and end up with the same size. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 3/20/07, John Andersen <jsa@pen.homeip.net> wrote:
On Monday 19 March 2007, Cristian Rodriguez R. wrote:
Greg Freemyer escribió:
Has anyone tried anything like this with dreamhost?
Yes and they are probably one the best in the "mass virtual hosting market".
If you have different needs, your next step is probably a VPS.
They are far from the best and far from the cheapest, and god help you if you need to talk to a sentient being for tech support.
Try Your--Site.com - $60/Year, live bodies, choice of Windows or Linux hosting. Responsive. Usual Disclaimers apply.
I must be blind. Even their ultra-small 100MB of disk space package is 144 euros/year. I see the 20GB VPS for 99 euros/month. No mention of anything bigger, but I suspect they have significantly raised their prices since you signed up. Greg -- Greg Freemyer The Norcross Group Forensics for the 21st Century -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 3/19/07, Cristian Rodriguez R. <judas_iscariote@shorewall.net> wrote:
Greg Freemyer escribió:
Has anyone tried anything like this with dreamhost?
Yes and they are probably one the best in the "mass virtual hosting market".
We have different definitions of "one of the best"
From their server I do a simple du on a couple GB of data. === [arizona]$ time du -sh * 120M config-enc-raw 387M home-enc-raw 1.8G srv-enc-raw
real 64m27.529s user 0m0.650s sys 0m2.540s ===
From my server with significantly larger superset of data:
# time du -sh config-enc-raw/ home-enc-raw/ config-enc-raw/ 120M config-enc-raw/ 10G home-enc-raw/ 1.8G srv-enc-raw/ real 1m33.608s user 0m0.568s sys 0m5.148s === Thats about 40 times slower than my machine with is nothing special (ie. 5 year old P4 technology with a 3ware dual-channel raid-1 setup). I'm still testing. (I need to time some actual rsync passes. I'm particularly curious how it responds in the middle of the night.)
If you have different needs, your next step is probably a VPS.
I have one from slicehost, but they don't even offer 300GB+ of disk capacity . Greg -- Greg Freemyer The Norcross Group Forensics for the 21st Century -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Greg Freemyer wrote:
On 3/19/07, Cristian Rodriguez R. <judas_iscariote@shorewall.net> wrote:
Greg Freemyer escribió:
Has anyone tried anything like this with dreamhost?
Yes and they are probably one the best in the "mass virtual hosting market".
We have different definitions of "one of the best"
From their server I do a simple du on a couple GB of data. === [arizona]$ time du -sh * 120M config-enc-raw 387M home-enc-raw 1.8G srv-enc-raw
real 64m27.529s user 0m0.650s sys 0m2.540s
=== From my server with significantly larger superset of data:
# time du -sh config-enc-raw/ home-enc-raw/ config-enc-raw/ 120M config-enc-raw/ 10G home-enc-raw/ 1.8G srv-enc-raw/
real 1m33.608s user 0m0.568s sys 0m5.148s ===
Thats about 40 times slower than my machine with is nothing special (ie. 5 year old P4 technology with a 3ware dual-channel raid-1 setup).
I'm still testing. (I need to time some actual rsync passes. I'm particularly curious how it responds in the middle of the night.)
If you have different needs, your next step is probably a VPS.
I have one from slicehost, but they don't even offer 300GB+ of disk capacity . Greg Re: Amazon S3 There's also Synchronize (http://jets3t.s3.amazonaws.com/applications/synchronize.html), which is a part of JetS3t http://jets3t.s3.amazonaws.com/index.html.
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