[opensuse] Realtek 8152 USB 4-port Ethernet
We have a new computer system with a RealTek USB-based Ethernet chip. There are 4 physical ports, each with PoE. Mysteriously, only one port seems to show up. No idea why. We have tried the original openSUSE r8152 driver, the one that came with the computer (2.00.0) and the latest from RealTek (2.08.0). It makes no difference. This is on an openSUSE 13.1 system (kernel 3.11.6-4-desktop). Which is what we want to run here. Mysteriously, lsusb only lists one MAC address: Bus 003 Device 002: ID 0bda:8152 Realtek Semiconductor Corp. CDC Ethernet: iMacAddress 3 00073240415B That is the MAC address we see. But there should be 3 more! What we do see is: 4: enp0s20u10: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast state UP qlen 1000 link/ether 00:07:32:40:41:5b brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff inet6 fe80::207:32ff:fe40:415b/64 scope link valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever The BIOS is minimal. We do not see anything that seems to control this. I'm not a fan of this type of Ethernet interface. It is part of a fanless computer specially designed to run in cars and trains... Has anyone else gotten such a RealTek Ethernet chipset to work to work? -- Roger Oberholtzer -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 04/26/2017 07:18 AM, Roger Oberholtzer wrote:
We have a new computer system with a RealTek USB-based Ethernet chip. There are 4 physical ports, each with PoE.
Mysteriously, only one port seems to show up. No idea why. We have tried the original openSUSE r8152 driver, the one that came with the computer (2.00.0) and the latest from RealTek (2.08.0). It makes no difference.
This is on an openSUSE 13.1 system (kernel 3.11.6-4-desktop). Which is what we want to run here.
Mysteriously, lsusb only lists one MAC address:
Bus 003 Device 002: ID 0bda:8152 Realtek Semiconductor Corp. CDC Ethernet: iMacAddress 3 00073240415B
That is the MAC address we see. But there should be 3 more!
What we do see is:
4: enp0s20u10: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast state UP qlen 1000 link/ether 00:07:32:40:41:5b brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff inet6 fe80::207:32ff:fe40:415b/64 scope link valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
The BIOS is minimal. We do not see anything that seems to control this.
I'm not a fan of this type of Ethernet interface. It is part of a fanless computer specially designed to run in cars and trains...
Has anyone else gotten such a RealTek Ethernet chipset to work to work?
Maybe if you could include a link to the actual device it would help. That is an unusual combination of features. A usb connection to a 4 port PoE device ? I've Googled and the closest I could find was a two port USB32000SPT. Are you sure that USB connection that you mention only in passing isn't the PoE power input port? Are you sure this doesn't contain a internal switch, in which case you wouldn't know about the Mac Addresses of the other ports unless you plugged into each one sequentially? -- After all is said and done, more is said than done. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 8:21 PM, John Andersen <jsamyth@gmail.com> wrote:
Maybe if you could include a link to the actual device it would help.
http://www.aaeon.com/en/p/bus-truck-box-computer-boxer-6301vs It is interesting how the PoE 802.3 devices are listed under IO and not Ethernet. But they are Ethernet. Or at least one of them is. The intel Ethernet devices are both working fine. As they usually do.
That is an unusual combination of features.
A usb connection to a 4 port PoE device ? I've Googled and the closest I could find was a two port USB32000SPT.
I agree. Something looks fishy. I think I should see 4 USB devices listed. Not just one. All I see is: Bus 001 Device 002: ID 8087:8008 Intel Corp. Bus 002 Device 002: ID 8087:8000 Intel Corp. Bus 003 Device 002: ID 0bda:8152 Realtek Semiconductor Corp. Bus 003 Device 003: ID 05f3:0405 PI Engineering, Inc. Bus 003 Device 004: ID 145f:01d3 Trust Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub
Are you sure that USB connection that you mention only in passing isn't the PoE power input port?
It is not a USB connection that we have. It is 4 RJ-45 connectors. The USB<->R8152 part is on the motherboard
Are you sure this doesn't contain a internal switch, in which case you wouldn't know about the Mac Addresses of the other ports unless you plugged into each one sequentially?
If there was only one RJ-45 maybe. But there are 4 physical connectors for these ports. And we are supposed to have 4 ports. I suspect what we really have is a 4-port PoE switch connected to a single 8152 chip. Not what we were expecting! Time to contact our friendly salesperson... -- Roger Oberholtzer -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On April 26, 2017 11:52:01 PM PDT, Roger Oberholtzer <roger.oberholtzer@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 8:21 PM, John Andersen <jsamyth@gmail.com> wrote:
Maybe if you could include a link to the actual device it would help.
http://www.aaeon.com/en/p/bus-truck-box-computer-boxer-6301vs
It is interesting how the PoE 802.3 devices are listed under IO and not Ethernet. But they are Ethernet. Or at least one of them is. The intel Ethernet devices are both working fine. As they usually do.
That is an unusual combination of features.
A usb connection to a 4 port PoE device ? I've Googled and the closest I could find was a two port USB32000SPT.
I agree. Something looks fishy. I think I should see 4 USB devices listed. Not just one. All I see is:
Bus 001 Device 002: ID 8087:8008 Intel Corp. Bus 002 Device 002: ID 8087:8000 Intel Corp. Bus 003 Device 002: ID 0bda:8152 Realtek Semiconductor Corp. Bus 003 Device 003: ID 05f3:0405 PI Engineering, Inc. Bus 003 Device 004: ID 145f:01d3 Trust Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub
Are you sure that USB connection that you mention only in passing isn't the PoE power input port?
It is not a USB connection that we have. It is 4 RJ-45 connectors. The USB<->R8152 part is on the motherboard
Are you sure this doesn't contain a internal switch, in which case you wouldn't know about the Mac Addresses of the other ports unless you plugged into each one sequentially?
If there was only one RJ-45 maybe. But there are 4 physical connectors for these ports. And we are supposed to have 4 ports.
I suspect what we really have is a 4-port PoE switch connected to a single 8152 chip.
Not what we were expecting! Time to contact our friendly salesperson...
You're right about the Pie being listed as io ports. I suspect they are ports for transcievers or antennas or something. The spec sheet says only two Ethernet ports. The others are 802.11af, which is for some "white space" wifi sort of stuff. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_802.11af Looks like stuff for cop cars, or roving instant wifi networks. -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 10:27 AM, John Andersen <jsamyth@gmail.com> wrote:
On April 26, 2017 11:52:01 PM PDT, Roger Oberholtzer <roger.oberholtzer@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 8:21 PM, John Andersen <jsamyth@gmail.com> wrote:
Maybe if you could include a link to the actual device it would help.
http://www.aaeon.com/en/p/bus-truck-box-computer-boxer-6301vs
It is interesting how the PoE 802.3 devices are listed under IO and not Ethernet. But they are Ethernet. Or at least one of them is. The intel Ethernet devices are both working fine. As they usually do.
That is an unusual combination of features.
A usb connection to a 4 port PoE device ? I've Googled and the closest I could find was a two port USB32000SPT.
I agree. Something looks fishy. I think I should see 4 USB devices listed. Not just one. All I see is:
Bus 001 Device 002: ID 8087:8008 Intel Corp. Bus 002 Device 002: ID 8087:8000 Intel Corp. Bus 003 Device 002: ID 0bda:8152 Realtek Semiconductor Corp. Bus 003 Device 003: ID 05f3:0405 PI Engineering, Inc. Bus 003 Device 004: ID 145f:01d3 Trust Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub
Are you sure that USB connection that you mention only in passing isn't the PoE power input port?
It is not a USB connection that we have. It is 4 RJ-45 connectors. The USB<->R8152 part is on the motherboard
Are you sure this doesn't contain a internal switch, in which case you wouldn't know about the Mac Addresses of the other ports unless you plugged into each one sequentially?
If there was only one RJ-45 maybe. But there are 4 physical connectors for these ports. And we are supposed to have 4 ports.
I suspect what we really have is a 4-port PoE switch connected to a single 8152 chip.
Not what we were expecting! Time to contact our friendly salesperson...
You're right about the Pie being listed as io ports. I suspect they are ports for transcievers or antennas or something.
The spec sheet says only two Ethernet ports.
The others are 802.11af, which is for some "white space" wifi sort of stuff.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_802.11af
Looks like stuff for cop cars, or roving instant wifi networks.
It is off that there are 4 RJ-45 connectors for these 802.11af ports. Why a connector if it is wireless. I am obviously missing some information... Roger Oberholtzer -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Roger Oberholtzer wrote:
On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 10:27 AM, John Andersen <jsamyth@gmail.com> wrote:
On April 26, 2017 11:52:01 PM PDT, Roger Oberholtzer <roger.oberholtzer@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 8:21 PM, John Andersen <jsamyth@gmail.com> wrote:
Maybe if you could include a link to the actual device it would help.
http://www.aaeon.com/en/p/bus-truck-box-computer-boxer-6301vs
[snip] It is off that there are 4 RJ-45 connectors for these 802.11af ports. Why a connector if it is wireless.
That must be a typo in the spec, but I see "802.11af" mentioned as a POE standard in more than one place. Odd. POE is provided by a switch for networked devices. VoIP telephones, networked cameras are typical devices. I think your box comes with four POE ports, and a single network interface itself. The datasheet says it has two GiGE RJ45 ports though: http://www.bressner.de/Datenblaetter/BOXER-6301VS.pdf -- Per Jessen, Zürich (4.6°C) http://www.cloudsuisse.com/ - your owncloud, hosted in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Sat, Apr 29, 2017 at 10:09 AM, Per Jessen <per@computer.org> wrote: We wanted 6 ports. Or at least 4 ports. Some of the devices we use are GigEVision cameras. Each requires a GBit Ethernet interface (with as big an MTU as the interface supports) as they are high resolution/frame rate. We have a number of systems with multiple PoE ports. Each has it's own interface. I don't see the description of this system saying that the 4 PoE is a switch connected to a third Ethernet interface (aside from the 2 intel ports). But that seems to be the case. Aargh! -- Roger Oberholtzer -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Roger Oberholtzer wrote:
On Sat, Apr 29, 2017 at 10:09 AM, Per Jessen <per@computer.org> wrote:
We wanted 6 ports. Or at least 4 ports. Some of the devices we use are GigEVision cameras. Each requires a GBit Ethernet interface (with as big an MTU as the interface supports) as they are high resolution/frame rate.
We have a number of systems with multiple PoE ports. Each has it's own interface. I don't see the description of this system saying that the 4 PoE is a switch connected to a third Ethernet interface (aside from the 2 intel ports). But that seems to be the case.
No, I don't see that described either. So, you have two Intel GigE interfaces, with separate RJ45 sockets. Is the Realtek R8152 interface for the POE switch then? That chip only does 10/100. It's also USB2, so max 480Mbit/s. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (8.6°C) http://www.dns24.ch/ - free dynamic DNS, made in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 10:28 AM, Per Jessen <per@computer.org> wrote:
No, I don't see that described either.
So, you have two Intel GigE interfaces, with separate RJ45 sockets. Is the Realtek R8152 interface for the POE switch then? That chip only does 10/100. It's also USB2, so max 480Mbit/s.
That was our initial concern. The purpose of this system is to try to eliminate the Electrolux TravelPower we use to generate A/C off the engine. We can do this now that we have removed the last bit of A/C equipment. And to try to eliminate as many cables and connectors as we can. We have already used PoE with our GigEVision cameras. So that is not new. Finding that the PoE is just one interface was not a happy surprise. PoE in a vehicle environment has it's gottchas. If the equipment that is powered has a long startup time (like a high-end GPS with an IMU), you must wait that additional time each time you restart the PC supplying the power. Despite our instructions, the vehicle users cannot shake their Windows bad habit of restarting the computer all the time... -- Roger Oberholtzer -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Roger Oberholtzer wrote:
On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 10:28 AM, Per Jessen <per@computer.org> wrote:
No, I don't see that described either.
So, you have two Intel GigE interfaces, with separate RJ45 sockets. Is the Realtek R8152 interface for the POE switch then? That chip only does 10/100. It's also USB2, so max 480Mbit/s.
That was our initial concern. The purpose of this system is to try to eliminate the Electrolux TravelPower we use to generate A/C off the engine. We can do this now that we have removed the last bit of A/C equipment. And to try to eliminate as many cables and connectors as we can. We have already used PoE with our GigEVision cameras. So that is not new. Finding that the PoE is just one interface was not a happy surprise.
Right. Are the four POE ports maybe also 10/100 only?
PoE in a vehicle environment has it's gottchas. If the equipment that is powered has a long startup time (like a high-end GPS with an IMU), you must wait that additional time each time you restart the PC supplying the power.
I guess a separate POE switch is not an option? /Per -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 12:18 PM, Per Jessen <per@computer.org> wrote:
I guess a separate POE switch is not an option?
The goal here was to eliminate devices. And the dread cables that they bring with them. Cables and connectors account for the majority of failures. Vehicles are not the nicest environment for these things. In fact, that is one of the things about the computer: all components are soldered or otherwise permanently mounted. Our current need to occasionally open up a computer and jiggle the various bits so they are once again properly seated should be a thing of the past. The advent of intelligent systems in vehicles has led to systems that meet our needs becoming available. But wanting built-in swapable disk bays, ooddles of Ethernet ports, and a couple real RS-232 ports (if you expect to be a Stratum 1 time server) narrows the field. This is being tested in a new system configuration we are introducing. The downside to this approach is, of course, that this becomes a bigger point of failure. Taken as a whole, we expect it to fail less often. And since it is easier to replace this component when a failure occurs than locating what is amiss in a maze of separate wires and components, we expect easier field maintenance and less overall downtime). Or at least that is the theory... -- Roger Oberholtzer -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 10:27 AM, John Andersen <jsamyth@gmail.com> wrote:
The others are 802.11af, which is for some "white space" wifi sort of stuff.
Actually, they are 802.3af, not 802.11af. -- Roger Oberholtzer -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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