[opensuse] Full graphical remote login
Hello, I wonder if it is possible to use fully graphical remote login from Linux and WIndows to openSUSE. I think VNC doesn't fit me needs, because I need to log in various users, which are not logged to the server right now and I need to log more users in same time - everyone should log with their respective account. RDP would be fine, bud it seems it's not supported and working anymore. SSH X forwarding also isn't enough as I'd like to have full graphical access. Is there such possibility? All the best, Vojtěch -- Vojtěch Zeisek Komunita openSUSE GNU/Linuxu Community of the openSUSE GNU/Linux http://www.opensuse.org/ http://trapa.cz/
On Tuesday, October 01, 2013 11:52:05 AM Vojtěch Zeisek wrote:
Hello, I wonder if it is possible to use fully graphical remote login from Linux and WIndows to openSUSE. I think VNC doesn't fit me needs, because I need to log in various users, which are not logged to the server right now and I need to log more users in same time - everyone should log with their respective account. RDP would be fine, bud it seems it's not supported and working anymore. SSH X forwarding also isn't enough as I'd like to have full graphical access. Is there such possibility? All the best, Vojtěch
I use rdesktop to access openSUSE and Windows PCs. The user need not be logged on. The service you connect to runs at system level. I know this to be true for Linux as I enable it. It seems to be true of Windows as well as I give the user as a command line option to rdesktop. The only issue I have is audio/video (e.g. webcams). But I have not really invested too much time in sorting that. -- Yours sincerely, Roger Oberholtzer Ramböll RST / Systems Office: Int +46 10-615 60 20 Mobile: Int +46 70-815 1696 roger.oberholtzer@ramboll.se ________________________________________ Ramböll Sverige AB Krukmakargatan 21 P.O. Box 17009 SE-104 62 Stockholm, Sweden www.rambollrst.se -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Dne Út 1. října 2013 12:04:27, Roger Oberholtzer napsal(a):
On Tuesday, October 01, 2013 11:52:05 AM Vojtěch Zeisek wrote:
Hello, I wonder if it is possible to use fully graphical remote login from Linux and WIndows to openSUSE. I think VNC doesn't fit me needs, because I need to log in various users, which are not logged to the server right now and I need to log more users in same time - everyone should log with their respective account. RDP would be fine, bud it seems it's not supported and working anymore. SSH X forwarding also isn't enough as I'd like to have full graphical access. Is there such possibility? All the best, Vojtěch
I use rdesktop to access openSUSE and Windows PCs. The user need not be logged on. The service you connect to runs at system level. I know this to be true for Linux as I enable it. It seems to be true of Windows as well as I give the user as a command line option to rdesktop.
It sounds good. Could You, please, point me to some documentation? What do You install and set on server side?
The only issue I have is audio/video (e.g. webcams). But I have not really invested too much time in sorting that.
It doesn't matter. Thank You, Vojtěch -- Vojtěch Zeisek Komunita openSUSE GNU/Linuxu Community of the openSUSE GNU/Linux http://www.opensuse.org/ http://trapa.cz/
On Tuesday, October 01, 2013 12:08:33 PM Vojtěch Zeisek wrote:
Dne Út 1. října 2013 12:04:27, Roger Oberholtzer napsal(a):
On Tuesday, October 01, 2013 11:52:05 AM Vojtěch Zeisek wrote:
Hello, I wonder if it is possible to use fully graphical remote login from Linux and WIndows to openSUSE. I think VNC doesn't fit me needs, because I need to log in various users, which are not logged to the server right now and I need to log more users in same time - everyone should log with their respective account. RDP would be fine, bud it seems it's not supported and working anymore. SSH X forwarding also isn't enough as I'd like to have full graphical access. Is there such possibility? All the best, Vojtěch
I use rdesktop to access openSUSE and Windows PCs. The user need not be logged on. The service you connect to runs at system level. I know this to be true for Linux as I enable it. It seems to be true of Windows as well as I give the user as a command line option to rdesktop.
It sounds good. Could You, please, point me to some documentation? What do You install and set on server side?
Here are my notes for this. Note that this password is not any user's password. It is to get access to the display. On the remote side with the display you want to access, do this once Be sure these packages are installed: x11vnc xorg-x11-Xvnc Be sure the file /etc/xinetd.d/x11vncservice on the remote system looks like this: service x11vncservice { socket_type = stream protocol = tcp wait = no user = root server = /usr/bin/x11vnc server_args = -inetd -rfbauth /etc/vncpasswd -o /var/log/x11vnc.log -find -env FD_XDM=1 -shared -forever port = 5900 type = UNLISTED } Set up a password for allowing remote access. Replace 'yourfavoritepassword' with the password remote systems need to access this display. cd /etc x11vnc -storepasswd 'yourfavoritepassword' vncpasswd Enable these changes. No need to reboot. rcxinetd restart On the local computer, do this once: Be sure these packages are installed: tightvnc Register the password in a file so you do not need to enter it all the time. You will be prompted for a password. Enter whatever was used for 'yourfavoritepassword. in the previous step on the remote computer. In this case, we will make use a file called /home/me/.vncpasswd vncpasswd /home/me/.vncpasswd To access the remote desktop, the command on your local computer is vncviewer -passwd /home/me/.vncpasswd aies1:0 This will show the display on a system called aies1. -- Yours sincerely, Roger Oberholtzer Ramböll RST / Systems Office: Int +46 10-615 60 20 Mobile: Int +46 70-815 1696 roger.oberholtzer@ramboll.se ________________________________________ Ramböll Sverige AB Krukmakargatan 21 P.O. Box 17009 SE-104 62 Stockholm, Sweden www.rambollrst.se -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
I was a bit inaccurate. I use vncviewer to access remote openSUSE displays. I use rdesktop to access Windows machines. My earlier reply was about setting up openSUSE as both a display server and a client, so it was about vncviewer. -- Yours sincerely, Roger Oberholtzer Ramböll RST / Systems Office: Int +46 10-615 60 20 Mobile: Int +46 70-815 1696 roger.oberholtzer@ramboll.se ________________________________________ Ramböll Sverige AB Krukmakargatan 21 P.O. Box 17009 SE-104 62 Stockholm, Sweden www.rambollrst.se -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Roger Oberholtzer said the following on 10/01/2013 06:38 AM:
rcxinetd restart
That's great, Roger, and I was about to set it up when I noticed that xinetd is depreciated under systemd. See http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/inetd.html for one example Also http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2012-10/msg00449.html Perhaps Cristian can therefore offer the systemd equivalent. -- No. 131 was one of a row, all flat-chested, respectable, and most unromantic dwellings. As we drove up, we found the railings in front of the house lined by a curious crowd. Holmes whistled. "By George! It's attempted murder at the least. Nothing less will hold the London message-boy. There's a deed of violence indicated in that fellow's round shoulders and outstretched neck." -- From "The Adventure of the Six Napoleons" -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Tuesday, October 01, 2013 09:19:17 AM Anton Aylward wrote:
Roger Oberholtzer said the following on 10/01/2013 06:38 AM:
rcxinetd restart
That's great, Roger, and I was about to set it up when I noticed that xinetd is depreciated under systemd.
See http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/inetd.html for one example
Also http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2012-10/msg00449.html
Perhaps Cristian can therefore offer the systemd equivalent.
I would also be interested. It still works in 12.3. I have not started to look at 13.1 -- Yours sincerely, Roger Oberholtzer Ramböll RST / Systems Office: Int +46 10-615 60 20 Mobile: Int +46 70-815 1696 roger.oberholtzer@ramboll.se ________________________________________ Ramböll Sverige AB Krukmakargatan 21 P.O. Box 17009 SE-104 62 Stockholm, Sweden www.rambollrst.se -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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Hello, I wonder if it is possible to use fully graphical remote login from Linux and WIndows to openSUSE. I think VNC doesn't fit me needs, because I need to log in various users, which are not logged to the server right now and I need to log more users in same time - everyone should log with their respective account. RDP would be fine, bud it seems it's not supported and working anymore. SSH X forwarding also isn't enough as I'd like to have full graphical access. Is there such possibility? All the best, Vojtěch
I haven't used it for a long time, but you might find No Machine fits the bill. http://www.nomachine.com/ and there is free version that can connect to a nomachine server http://freenx.berlios.de/ Bob - -- Bob Williams System: Linux 3.7.10-1.16-desktop Distro: openSUSE 12.3 (x86_64) with KDE Development Platform: 4.10.5 "release 4" Uptime: 06:00am up 20 days 14:56, 3 users, load average: 0.01, 0.07, 0.13 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlJKnlAACgkQ0Sr7eZJrmU73YgCcCZgKDEMrZvy2sApZfP0pdsp/ NZ8An0naPkfP45XCBJp6PCCvgemQUb7Q =OjPX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Dne Út 1. října 2013 11:05:07, Bob Williams napsal(a):
On 01/10/13 10:52, Vojtěch Zeisek wrote:
Hello, I wonder if it is possible to use fully graphical remote login from Linux and WIndows to openSUSE. I think VNC doesn't fit me needs, because I need to log in various users, which are not logged to the server right now and I need to log more users in same time - everyone should log with their respective account. RDP would be fine, bud it seems it's not supported and working anymore. SSH X
forwarding also isn't enough as I'd like to have full graphical
access. Is there such possibility? All the best, Vojtěch
I haven't used it for a long time, but you might find No Machine fits the bill.
and there is free version that can connect to a nomachine server
It looks good, but I'm little confused. So You just install FreeNX Server package, open respective ports and then connects with FreeNX Client? So You just need those packages http://software.opensuse.org/search?q=freenx&baseproject=openSUSE%3A12.3 and that is all? :-)
Bob
Thank You, Vojtěch -- Vojtěch Zeisek Komunita openSUSE GNU/Linuxu Community of the openSUSE GNU/Linux http://www.opensuse.org/ http://trapa.cz/
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Dne Út 1. října 2013 11:05:07, Bob Williams napsal(a):
On 01/10/13 10:52, Vojtěch Zeisek wrote:
Hello, I wonder if it is possible to use fully graphical remote login from Linux and WIndows to openSUSE. I think VNC doesn't fit me needs, because I need to log in various users, which are not logged to the server right now and I need to log more users in same time - everyone should log with their respective account. RDP would be fine, bud it seems it's not supported and working anymore. SSH X
forwarding also isn't enough as I'd like to have full graphical
access. Is there such possibility? All the best, Vojtěch
I haven't used it for a long time, but you might find No Machine fits the bill.
and there is free version that can connect to a nomachine server
It looks good, but I'm little confused. So You just install FreeNX Server package, open respective ports and then connects with FreeNX Client? So You just need those packages http://software.opensuse.org/search?q=freenx&baseproject=openSUSE%3A12.3 and that is all? :-)
Bob
Thank You, Vojtěch
I think so. As I said, I'm a little rusty as I haven't used it for years, but ISTR just using the freenx components. Bob - -- Bob Williams System: Linux 3.7.10-1.16-desktop Distro: openSUSE 12.3 (x86_64) with KDE Development Platform: 4.10.5 "release 4" Uptime: 06:00am up 20 days 14:56, 3 users, load average: 0.01, 0.07, 0.13 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlJKoigACgkQ0Sr7eZJrmU5T/wCcDUzKMy4mwRB6qM3K5ToJVnIZ PG4An1zew89bHT2aiOhl0T0rw8YRyh3M =uKF6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 01/10/13 20:21, Bob Williams wrote:
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On 01/10/13 11:15, Vojtěch Zeisek wrote:
Dne Út 1. října 2013 11:05:07, Bob Williams napsal(a):
On 01/10/13 10:52, Vojtěch Zeisek wrote:
Hello, I wonder if it is possible to use fully graphical remote login from Linux and WIndows to openSUSE. I think VNC doesn't fit me needs, because I need to log in various users, which are not logged to the server right now and I need to log more users in same time - everyone should log with their respective account. RDP would be fine, bud it seems it's not supported and working anymore. SSH X
forwarding also isn't enough as I'd like to have full graphical
access. Is there such possibility? All the best, Vojtěch I haven't used it for a long time, but you might find No Machine fits the bill.
and there is free version that can connect to a nomachine server
http://freenx.berlios.de/ It looks good, but I'm little confused. So You just install FreeNX Server package, open respective ports and then connects with FreeNX Client? So You just need those packages http://software.opensuse.org/search?q=freenx&baseproject=openSUSE%3A12.3 and that is all? :-)
Bob Thank You, Vojtěch
I think so. As I said, I'm a little rusty as I haven't used it for years, but ISTR just using the freenx components.
Bob
I have been using Freenx for a while, and have found that lately (as desktops become 'more 3d'), that this doesn't work as well as it used to (although haven't updated recently...) Seems to miss 'window ornaments' and data from textboxes etc. Can be rather hard to use. John. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Hi Dne Út 1. října 2013 20:31:40, John Bennett napsal(a):
On 01/10/13 20:21, Bob Williams wrote:
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On 01/10/13 11:15, Vojtěch Zeisek wrote:
Dne Út 1. října 2013 11:05:07, Bob Williams napsal(a):
On 01/10/13 10:52, Vojtěch Zeisek wrote:
Hello, I wonder if it is possible to use fully graphical remote login from Linux and WIndows to openSUSE. I think VNC doesn't fit me needs, because I need to log in various users, which are not logged to the server right now and I need to log more users in same time - everyone should log with their respective account. RDP would be fine, bud it seems it's not supported and working anymore. SSH X
forwarding also isn't enough as I'd like to have full graphical
access. Is there such possibility? All the best, Vojtěch
I haven't used it for a long time, but you might find No Machine fits the bill.
and there is free version that can connect to a nomachine server
It looks good, but I'm little confused. So You just install FreeNX Server package, open respective ports and then connects with FreeNX Client? So You just need those packages
http://software.opensuse.org/search?q=freenx&baseproject=openSUSE%3A12.3
and that is all? :-)
Bob
Thank You, Vojtěch
I think so. As I said, I'm a little rusty as I haven't used it for years, but ISTR just using the freenx components.
Bob
I have been using Freenx for a while, and have found that lately (as desktops become 'more 3d'), that this doesn't work as well as it used to (although haven't updated recently...) Seems to miss 'window ornaments' and data from textboxes etc. Can be rather hard to use. John.
Thank You for the information. I don't care about fancy graphical features. I'll try it and I'll see how it works. :-) All the best, Vojtěch -- Vojtěch Zeisek Komunita openSUSE GNU/Linuxu Community of the openSUSE GNU/Linux http://www.opensuse.org/ http://trapa.cz/
On 10/1/2013 12:21 PM, Vojtěch Zeisek wrote:
Hello, I wonder if it is possible to use fully graphical remote login from Linux and WIndows to openSUSE. I think VNC doesn't fit me needs, because I need to log in various users, which are not logged to the server right now and I need to log more users in same time - everyone should log with their respective account. RDP would be fine, bud it seems it's not supported and working anymore. SSH X forwarding also isn't enough as I'd like to have full graphical access. Is there such possibility? All the best, Vojtěch
Why isn't SSH X forwarding "not enough". If set up properly you can get the full desktop experience. Instead of starting Xterm you startkde or startx or startxfce4. It works fine. None of the solutions suggested in this thread is going to be suitable for more than a couple users at a time unless you have gigabit Nic, and a fast LOCAL network. Pushing full screen X sessions across an internet connection is pretty annoying, even when you turn on compression. On an in-house network its useable. -- _____________________________________ ---This space for rent--- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
John Andersen wrote:
Instead of starting Xterm you startkde or startx or startxfce4.
Whenever I try startkde, I get an error stating that KDE is already running. If I try startx, I a bunch of error messages. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 10/1/2013 3:53 PM, James Knott wrote:
John Andersen wrote:
Instead of starting Xterm you startkde or startx or startxfce4.
Whenever I try startkde, I get an error stating that KDE is already running. If I try startx, I a bunch of error messages.
Sometimes with the newer KDE you have to have your SSh Session start with a command something like this: /usr/bin/xterm -ls &startkde Other wise things go go sideways in newer kde installations. You can close that xterm after kde is up or minimize it. -- _____________________________________ ---This space for rent--- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Tuesday, October 01, 2013 05:49:47 PM John Andersen wrote:
On 10/1/2013 3:53 PM, James Knott wrote:
John Andersen wrote:
Instead of starting Xterm you startkde or startx or startxfce4.
Whenever I try startkde, I get an error stating that KDE is already running. If I try startx, I a bunch of error messages.
Sometimes with the newer KDE you have to have your SSh Session start with a command something like this:
/usr/bin/xterm -ls &startkde
Other wise things go go sideways in newer kde installations. You can close that xterm after kde is up or minimize it.
Also, with ssh you get individual apps. Not the whole desktop as a unit independent of your local desktop. Another issue with ssh is that apps that use memory mapping of X do not work. This is common in some image applications. When shown in the desktop via vnc these apps run. -- Yours sincerely, Roger Oberholtzer Ramböll RST / Systems Office: Int +46 10-615 60 20 Mobile: Int +46 70-815 1696 roger.oberholtzer@ramboll.se ________________________________________ Ramböll Sverige AB Krukmakargatan 21 P.O. Box 17009 SE-104 62 Stockholm, Sweden www.rambollrst.se -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 10/02/2013 02:50 AM, Roger Oberholtzer wrote:
On Tuesday, October 01, 2013 05:49:47 PM John Andersen wrote:
On 10/1/2013 3:53 PM, James Knott wrote:
John Andersen wrote:
Instead of starting Xterm you startkde or startx or startxfce4.
Whenever I try startkde, I get an error stating that KDE is already running. If I try startx, I a bunch of error messages.
Sometimes with the newer KDE you have to have your SSh Session start with a command something like this:
/usr/bin/xterm -ls &startkde
Other wise things go go sideways in newer kde installations. You can close that xterm after kde is up or minimize it.
Also, with ssh you get individual apps. Not the whole desktop as a unit independent of your local desktop. Another issue with ssh is that apps that use memory mapping of X do not work. This is common in some image applications. When shown in the desktop via vnc these apps run.
I guess you didn't read before replying. I'm telling you that you can have individual apps or you can have the whole desktop. Don't make me post pictures..... ;-) As for the memory mapping of X, name such an app that fails and I'll try to test it here. -- Explain again the part about rm -rf / -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Le 02/10/2013 21:40, John Andersen a écrit :
I'm telling you that you can have individual apps or you can have the whole desktop.
Don't make me post pictures..... ;-)
As for the memory mapping of X, name such an app that fails and I'll try to test it here.
I connect to my server with ssh -X -C root@xxxx.info then startxfce4 result a message usr/bin/startxfce4: X server already running on display localhost:10.0 what I know to be wrong (I have no xfce running on this computer, 10.0 is ssh x port) - in fact I can understand it complains that an X app is running on *my* side *then* xfce starts, or better said all the default xcfe applications start, like the starting logo (mouse), the taskbar (recovering the local kde one) is I open a ControlAltF1 terminal and do the same I have no more complain but lot of error messages and no X starts what do you do to have the expected result? thanks jdd -- http://www.dodin.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 10/2/2013 2:15 PM, jdd wrote:
Le 02/10/2013 21:40, John Andersen a �crit :
I'm telling you that you can have individual apps or you can have the whole desktop.
Don't make me post pictures..... ;-)
As for the memory mapping of X, name such an app that fails and I'll try to test it here.
I connect to my server with ssh -X -C root@xxxx.info then startxfce4
result
a message
usr/bin/startxfce4: X server already running on display localhost:10.0
what I know to be wrong (I have no xfce running on this computer, 10.0 is ssh x port) - in fact I can understand it complains that an X app is running on *my* side
*then* xfce starts, or better said all the default xcfe applications start, like the starting logo (mouse), the taskbar (recovering the local kde one)
is I open a ControlAltF1 terminal and do the same I have no more complain but lot of error messages and no X starts
what do you do to have the expected result?
thanks jdd
The Display is already running, bit is just automated to be sure you arent' logged in with no X running. Apparently some hand-holding code that runs every time, regardless of whether you are logging in via ssh or from a command line shell (init 3). I have no idea why this won't work for you. Most of the time I just want a shell when I SSH, but occasionally, for local machines I want a full desktop. I did set my ssh connection to Start a new instance instead of re-using an existing one. I'd like to pursue this more, but unfortunately the press of business requires that I crank out some code for a customer right now. I'll dig back into it later. Showing a full screen xfce4 desktop: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/35567349/Capture.JPG Showing a full screen KDE4 Desktop https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/35567349/CaptureKDE.JPG Here is some guy that tried multiple solutions: http://www.linuxadvocates.com/2013/06/a-small-problem-and-some-solutions.htm... See also http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=91603 (bottom, especially if you are trying to ssh in as root, which is generally not a good idea) -- _____________________________________ ---This space for rent--- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Wednesday, October 02, 2013 12:40:40 PM John Andersen wrote:
On 10/02/2013 02:50 AM, Roger Oberholtzer wrote:
On Tuesday, October 01, 2013 05:49:47 PM John Andersen wrote:
On 10/1/2013 3:53 PM, James Knott wrote:
John Andersen wrote:
Instead of starting Xterm you startkde or startx or startxfce4.
Whenever I try startkde, I get an error stating that KDE is already running. If I try startx, I a bunch of error messages.
Sometimes with the newer KDE you have to have your SSh Session start with a command something like this:
/usr/bin/xterm -ls &startkde
Other wise things go go sideways in newer kde installations. You can close that xterm after kde is up or minimize it.
Also, with ssh you get individual apps. Not the whole desktop as a unit independent of your local desktop. Another issue with ssh is that apps that use memory mapping of X do not work. This is common in some image applications. When shown in the desktop via vnc these apps run.
I guess you didn't read before replying.
I did. We are, I think, talking of two very different uses.
I'm telling you that you can have individual apps or you can have the whole desktop.
I think that if your local display is only running X and nothing else (e.g., KDE, ICE, whatever are NOT running locally), what you say is true. But that is not the same as running a full local desktop AND wanting to have a full remote desktop as well. Or perhaps a couple remote desktops. I do this all the time. Eacn remote is in a window on my desktop.
Don't make me post pictures..... ;-)
As for the memory mapping of X, name such an app that fails and I'll try to test it here.
Our own app. It is not expected to run remotely (it operates in a vehicle on the road) and so some image handling has been implemented with a few assumptions. Yuck, I agree. -- Yours sincerely, Roger Oberholtzer Ramböll RST / Systems Office: Int +46 10-615 60 20 Mobile: Int +46 70-815 1696 roger.oberholtzer@ramboll.se ________________________________________ Ramböll Sverige AB Krukmakargatan 21 P.O. Box 17009 SE-104 62 Stockholm, Sweden www.rambollrst.se -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
John Andersen wrote:
Sometimes with the newer KDE you have to have your SSh Session start with a command something like this:
/usr/bin/xterm -ls &startkde
I still get that "KDE seems to be already running on this display". It would *REALLY* be nice if XDMCP was working as it's supposed to and did up to 11.4. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 10/02/2013 05:24 AM, James Knott wrote:
John Andersen wrote:
Sometimes with the newer KDE you have to have your SSh Session start with a command something like this:
/usr/bin/xterm -ls &startkde
I still get that "KDE seems to be already running on this display".
It would *REALLY* be nice if XDMCP was working as it's supposed to and did up to 11.4.
Well IS IT already running on that display number? These messages usually mean exactly what they say. Start by offsetting the display number in your SSH session before you start your xterm. -- Explain again the part about rm -rf / -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Le 01/10/2013 23:35, John Andersen a écrit :
Why isn't SSH X forwarding "not enough". If set up properly you can get the full desktop experience.
Instead of starting Xterm you startkde or startx or startxfce4.
It works fine.
I never could make it work, any hint? each time I try, the window manager disturb the local one. I *can* have individual applications and usually it's enough frenix works, but have problems with virtualbox and I could fing no way to keep GUI running when closing the local terminal, neither with ssh nor screen jdd -- http://www.dodin.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Dne Út 1. října 2013 14:35:00, John Andersen napsal(a):
On 10/1/2013 12:21 PM, Vojtěch Zeisek wrote:
Hello, I wonder if it is possible to use fully graphical remote login from Linux and WIndows to openSUSE. I think VNC doesn't fit me needs, because I need to log in various users, which are not logged to the server right now and I need to log more users in same time - everyone should log with their respective account. RDP would be fine, bud it seems it's not supported and working anymore. SSH X forwarding also isn't enough as I'd like to have full graphical access. Is there such possibility? All the best, Vojtěch
Why isn't SSH X forwarding "not enough". If set up properly you can get the full desktop experience.
Instead of starting Xterm you startkde or startx or startxfce4.
I didn't know this is possible. If so, it'd be enough. I simply need full desktop for technically not very skilled users...
It works fine.
None of the solutions suggested in this thread is going to be suitable for more than a couple users at a time unless you have gigabit Nic, and a fast LOCAL network. Pushing full screen X sessions across an internet connection is pretty annoying, even when you turn on compression. On an in-house network its useable.
That is OK, there won't be many users logged in same time and local network is fast. All the best, Vojtěch -- Vojtěch Zeisek Komunita openSUSE GNU/Linuxu Community of the openSUSE GNU/Linux http://www.opensuse.org/ http://trapa.cz/
Vojtěch Zeisek wrote:
I wonder if it is possible to use fully graphical remote login from Linux and WIndows to openSUSE. I think VNC doesn't fit me needs, because I need to log in various users, which are not logged to the server right now and I need to log more users in same time - everyone should log with their respective account. RDP would be fine, bud it seems it's not supported and working anymore. SSH X forwarding also isn't enough as I'd like to have full graphical access. Is there such possibility?
I had been using XDMCP for years, but it's pretty much broken in openSUSE 12.x. There are X servers available for Windows that will work (assuming they get XDMCP working in openSUSE again). I also don't care for VNC. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Dne Út 1. října 2013 07:27:43, James Knott napsal(a):
Vojtěch Zeisek wrote:
I wonder if it is possible to use fully graphical remote login from Linux and WIndows to openSUSE. I think VNC doesn't fit me needs, because I need to log in various users, which are not logged to the server right now and I need to log more users in same time - everyone should log with their respective account. RDP would be fine, bud it seems it's not supported and working anymore. SSH X forwarding also isn't enough as I'd like to have full graphical access. Is there such possibility?
I had been using XDMCP for years, but it's pretty much broken in openSUSE 12.x. There are X servers available for Windows that will work (assuming they get XDMCP working in openSUSE again). I also don't care for VNC.
I tried it, but I wasn't able to get it to work... Might be it is abandoned and it won't work anymore... Have a nice day, Vojtěch -- Vojtěch Zeisek Komunita openSUSE GNU/Linuxu Community of the openSUSE GNU/Linux http://www.opensuse.org/ http://trapa.cz/
Vojtěch Zeisek wrote:
I had been using XDMCP for years, but it's pretty much broken in
openSUSE 12.x. There are X servers available for Windows that will work (assuming they get XDMCP working in openSUSE again). I also don't care for VNC. I tried it, but I wasn't able to get it to work... Might be it is abandoned and it won't work anymore... Have a nice day, Vojtěch
I assume you're referring to XDMCP. Well, as I said, it's broken in 12.x The last version where it worked properly was 11.4. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-----Original Message----- From: Vojtěch Zeisek <vojtech.zeisek@opensuse.org> To: mailinglist openSUSE <opensuse@opensuse.org> Subject: [opensuse] Full graphical remote login Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2013 11:52:05 +0200 Hello, I wonder if it is possible to use fully graphical remote login from Linux and WIndows to openSUSE. I think VNC doesn't fit me needs, because I need to log in various users, which are not logged to the server right now and I need to log more users in same time - everyone should log with their respective account. RDP would be fine, bud it seems it's not supported and working anymore. SSH X forwarding also isn't enough as I'd like to have full graphical access. Is there such possibility? All the best, Vojtěch -----Original Message----- Some suggested freenx, if the amount of simultaneously connections are limited, you can try its commercial brother from nomachine. You can also have a look at the x2go project (available on the OBS) These three are closely related (same concept) Or cendio's thinlinc: http://www.cendio.com/ Their product is also vnc related -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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