Has anyone had experience with any of the following HP Laser Jet printers under SuSE 9.3 or 10.0? 1160 1320 Your feedback is appreciated. Thx. :) Gil
At 06:06 PM 3/13/2006 -0500, Gil Weber wrote:
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Has anyone had experience with any of the following HP Laser Jet printers under SuSE 9.3 or 10.0?
1160 1320
Your feedback is appreciated. Thx. :) Gil
Apparently it is wise to check HP's products carefully. I bought an HP 1020, and found that it is basically incompatible with Linux--it's a "win-printer" like a "win-modem" which uses the OS and an associated driver, built for the OS, to make it work. I don't know anything about the printers you ask about. The older HP products, like the LaserJet 2200D, which I own, work perfectly. --doug -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 268.2.2/280 - Release Date: 3/13/2006
On Mon March 13 2006 8:17 pm, Doug McGarrett wrote:
At 06:06 PM 3/13/2006 -0500, Gil Weber wrote:
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Has anyone had experience with any of the following HP Laser Jet printers under SuSE 9.3 or 10.0?
1160 1320
Your feedback is appreciated. Thx. :) Gil
Apparently it is wise to check HP's products carefully. I bought an HP 1020, and found that it is basically incompatible with Linux--it's a "win-printer" like a "win-modem" which uses the OS and an associated driver, built for the OS, to make it work. I don't know anything about the printers you ask about. The older HP products, like the LaserJet 2200D, which I own, work perfectly.
--doug
Thanks for this valuable caution. "Win-printer"? Ugh. :o(( Gil
At 08:02 PM 3/13/2006, Gil Weber wrote:
On Mon March 13 2006 8:50 pm, Jack Malone wrote:
1160 1320
I have a hp 13?? at work taht has the built in network card on it I will check tomorrow an let you know which one it is.
Ok check an its the 1320N that I have here at work. I have it hooked to the network with ethernet that is built into it an going thrue linux server so that they can print to it over the network. It would seem to reason if they have a network option on it that you can get the one without an it should work with linux but who knows for sure. Mine works with no problems at all here. Not used that much but have not had any problems that the uses have complain on yet. jack
On Tuesday 14 March 2006 09:08, Jack Malone wrote:
Ok check an its the 1320N that I have here at work. I have it hooked to the network with ethernet that is built into it an going thrue linux server so that they can print to it over the network. It would seem to reason if they have a network option on it that you can get the one without an it should work with linux but who knows for sure. Mine works with no problems at all here. Not used that much but have not had any problems that the uses have complain on yet.
I believe the 1320 (like a lot of HP and other printers these days) has a 'metering count' on the life of the ink cartridges.... so it doesn't matter how much ink is left, when the meter runs out, the printer stops running. I read a comment somewhere from a google inquiry that someone had 80% of their ink left when the meter ran out and that was verified by an HP service tech. I will not buy any printer using this 'trick' if at all possible.
I believe the 1320 (like a lot of HP and other printers these days) has a 'metering count' on the life of the ink cartridges.... so it doesn't matter how much ink is left, when the meter runs out, the printer stops running.
I read a comment somewhere from a google inquiry that someone had 80% of their ink left when the meter ran out and that was verified by an HP service tech. I have never heard of this very interesting. I have serveral HP ( 4000, 4200 an 4250) that I seem to get close to what they say you should get on the number of pages out of them per cartidge. I got
that 1320 for one area here since it was a very low use area, will have to check up on this now. jack
I believe the 1320 (like a lot of HP and other printers these days) has a 'metering count' on the life of the ink cartridges.... so it doesn't matter how much ink is left, when the meter runs out, the printer stops running.
I read a comment somewhere from a google inquiry that someone had 80% of their ink left when the meter ran out and that was verified by an HP service tech.
I have never heard of this very interesting. I have serveral HP ( 4000, 4200 an 4250) that I seem to get close to what they say you should get on the number of pages out of them per cartidge. I got that 1320 for one area here since it was a very low use area, will have to check up on this now.
jack I have an Epson CX6600 all-in-one and it quites printing when the ink gets low, won't print until the offending cartridge is replaced. Seems to be a
On Tuesday 14 March 2006 06:57, Jack Malone wrote: trend to sell more ink since they now basically give away most printers. -- Russ
russbucket wrote:
I believe the 1320 (like a lot of HP and other printers these days) has a 'metering count' on the life of the ink cartridges.... so it doesn't matter how much ink is left, when the meter runs out, the printer stops running.
....
jack I have an Epson CX6600 all-in-one and it quites printing when the ink gets low, won't print until the offending cartridge is replaced. Seems to be a
On Tuesday 14 March 2006 06:57, Jack Malone wrote: trend to sell more ink since they now basically give away most printers.
I got an Epson Stylus Photo 820 for $75 and its print quality is fantastic. I've printed 8.5x11 photos on it that have won photo contests. And it works with RH9. So I'm sure it will work with SuSE 9.3 Pro when I get around to that. But, yeah, it takes two cartridges, one for black, the other for color, and the Epson replacement cartridges cost $25 to $28 each. It's less like buying a printer than renting it. -- "This world ain't big enough for the both of us," said the big noema to the little noema.
Hello, On Mar 14 12:06 ken wrote (shortened):
russbucket wrote:
... they now basically give away most printers ... ... replacement cartridges cost ... It's less like buying a printer than renting it.
Exactly! But what can one expect from such inexpensive printer hardware? A gift from a company which must make its stakeholders happy? ;-) Kind Regards Johannes Meixner -- SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstrasse 5 Mail: jsmeix@suse.de 90409 Nuernberg, Germany WWW: http://www.suse.de/
On Tuesday 14 March 2006 09:57, Jack Malone wrote:
I have never heard of this very interesting. I have serveral HP ( 4000, 4200 an 4250) that I seem to get close to what they say you should get on the number of pages out of them per cartidge. I got that 1320 for one area here since it was a very low use area, will have to check up on this now.
I think you'll find more and more printers are being handled by the meter system. It is a) more profitable by far, and b) much easier to count pages than it is to figure whether an ink well is dry.
For a list of printers that HP certifies for Linux, here is the HP URL:
http://h10018.www1.hp.com/wwsolutions/linux/products/printing_imaging/
And by clicking on a printer it takes you here:
http://hpinkjet.sourceforge.net/productsmf.php
The above URL has tabs for all the printer categories.
--
Jerry Feldman
On 3/14/06 9:40 AM, "Bruce Marshall"
I believe the 1320 (like a lot of HP and other printers these days) has a 'metering count' on the life of the ink cartridges.... so it doesn't matter how much ink is left, when the meter runs out, the printer stops running.
I read a comment somewhere from a google inquiry that someone had 80% of their ink left when the meter ran out and that was verified by an HP service tech.
I will not buy any printer using this 'trick' if at all possible.
You can get a little gizmo for other printers that will reset the chip for $15+/-. Also good if you refill the ink. My guess is they have them for these cartridges also. Something like this: http://atlascopy.com/refills/resetters.htm Just hit google for chip resetter or such. -- Thanks, George ``Badges? We ain't got no badges! We don't need no badges! I don't have to show you any stinking badges!'', ``The Treasure of the Sierra Madre,'' 1948.
On Tue March 14 2006 9:40 am, Bruce Marshall wrote:
On Tuesday 14 March 2006 09:08, Jack Malone wrote:
Ok check an its the 1320N that I have here at work. I have it hooked to the network with ethernet that is built into it an going thrue linux server so that they can print to it over the network. It would seem to reason if they have a network option on it that you can get the one without an it should work with linux but who knows for sure. Mine works with no problems at all here. Not used that much but have not had any problems that the uses have complain on yet.
I believe the 1320 (like a lot of HP and other printers these days) has a 'metering count' on the life of the ink cartridges.... so it doesn't matter how much ink is left, when the meter runs out, the printer stops running.
I read a comment somewhere from a google inquiry that someone had 80% of their ink left when the meter ran out and that was verified by an HP service tech.
I will not buy any printer using this 'trick' if at all possible.
Am I missing something here? The 1320 is a laser jet printer, not an ink jet. So it should not have ink cartridges. Or am I confused?? :o) Gil
I believe the 1320 (like a lot of HP and other printers these days) has a 'metering count' on the life of the ink cartridges.... so it doesn't matter how much ink is left, when the meter runs out, the printer stops running.
I read a comment somewhere from a google inquiry that someone had 80% of
At 09:40 AM 3/14/2006 -0500, Bruce Marshall wrote: /snip/ their
ink left when the meter ran out and that was verified by an HP service tech.
I will not buy any printer using this 'trick' if at all possible.
Is there a database somewhere that you can find this information on? Which printers use this "trick"? --dm -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.2.3/281 - Release Date: 3/14/2006
On Tuesday 14 March 2006 14:18, Doug McGarrett wrote:
I read a comment somewhere from a google inquiry that someone had 80% of
their
ink left when the meter ran out and that was verified by an HP service tech.
I will not buy any printer using this 'trick' if at all possible.
Is there a database somewhere that you can find this information on? Which printers use this "trick"? --dm
I don't know of any repository of such information. The best thing to do when considering the purchase of any major piece of equipment is to go to sites that provide for 'user comments' on what it is you want to buy. They are a wealth of information. I just went looking for the HP 1320 reviews since I thought that was the printer that the '80% left' comment pertained to. I didn't find any reference to that but I did find a wealth of negative comments on the 1320 that mainly dealt with a terrible manual feed, and noise. Many people didn't like the printer, some taking it back to where they bought it... but I use this only as an example of what you may find.
On Tue March 14 2006 5:46 pm, Bruce Marshall wrote: (snip)
The best thing to do when considering the purchase of any major piece of equipment is to go to sites that provide for 'user comments' on what it is you want to buy. They are a wealth of information.
I just went looking for the HP 1320 reviews since I thought that was the printer that the '80% left' comment pertained to. I didn't find any reference to that but I did find a wealth of negative comments on the 1320 that mainly dealt with a terrible manual feed, and noise. Many people didn't like the printer, some taking it back to where they bought it... but I use this only as an example of what you may find.
Bruce, can you point me to a couple of URLs of such sites? Thx Gil
On 14/03/06, Gil Weber
On Tue March 14 2006 5:46 pm, Bruce Marshall wrote:
(snip)
The best thing to do when considering the purchase of any major piece of equipment is to go to sites that provide for 'user comments' on what it is you want to buy. They are a wealth of information.
I just went looking for the HP 1320 reviews since I thought that was the printer that the '80% left' comment pertained to. I didn't find any reference to that but I did find a wealth of negative comments on the 1320 that mainly dealt with a terrible manual feed, and noise. Many people didn't like the printer, some taking it back to where they bought it... but I use this only as an example of what you may find.
Bruce, can you point me to a couple of URLs of such sites? Thx
I believe my Epson Stylus C84 has this metering system enabled. However, it is a software thing and as such is only enabled in Windows :-) However, it is also toggleable (si there such a word?) I can turn it off and do so. It just means I have now way of knowing until the paper comes out blank that I have run out of ink. I can live with it :-) I use cloned ink cartridges by the way and am more than happy with them. -- ============================================== I am only human, please forgive me if I make a mistake it is not deliberate. ============================================== Xmas may be over but, PLEASE DON'T drink and drive you'll make it to the next one that way. Kevan Farmer Linux user #373362 Cheslyn Hay Staffordshire WS6 7HR
On Tuesday 14 March 2006 15:02, Kevanf1 wrote:
<snip> I believe my Epson Stylus C84 has this metering system enabled. However, it is a software thing and as such is only enabled in Windows
:-) However, it is also toggleable (si there such a word?) I can turn
it off and do so. It just means I have now way of knowing until the paper comes out blank that I have run out of ink. I can live with it
:-) I use cloned ink cartridges by the way and am more than happy
with them. -- ============================================== I am only human, please forgive me if I make a mistake it is not deliberate. ============================================== Xmas may be over but, PLEASE DON'T drink and drive you'll make it to the next one that way.
Kevan Farmer
Linux user #373362
Cheslyn Hay Staffordshire WS6 7HR Kevan are you using the drivers downloaded from EPKowa (Epson). If so check and see if it installed a service called ekpd. My Epson CX6600 does and it has a command line command (ekpstm) that has a GUI that shows ink levels.
Not sure if its available on your printer. I also understand Gutenprint has a utility for determing Epson ink levels. I'm still trying to get it to install on my system (SUSE 10.0). It has a driver for my CX6600 that may solve my PS problems. Check the following website: http://www.avasys.jp/english/linux_e/index.html Hope this helps. -- Russ
On 15/03/06, russbucket
Kevan are you using the drivers downloaded from EPKowa (Epson). If so check and see if it installed a service called ekpd. My Epson CX6600 does and it has a command line command (ekpstm) that has a GUI that shows ink levels.
Not sure if its available on your printer. I also understand Gutenprint has a utility for determing Epson ink levels. I'm still trying to get it to install on my system (SUSE 10.0). It has a driver for my CX6600 that may solve my PS problems.
Check the following website: http://www.avasys.jp/english/linux_e/index.html
Hope this helps. -- Russ
When I did set it up with SuSE (I still don't have my SuSE tin up and running at the moment) I just used the set up native to SuSE and CUPS. It all worked perfectly so I didn't need to go to download any third party stuff. -- ============================================== I am only human, please forgive me if I make a mistake it is not deliberate. ============================================== Xmas may be over but, PLEASE DON'T drink and drive you'll make it to the next one that way. Kevan Farmer Linux user #373362 Cheslyn Hay Staffordshire WS6 7HR
On Wed March 15 2006 11:00 am, Kevanf1 wrote:
When I did set it up with SuSE (I still don't have my SuSE tin up and running at the moment) I just used the set up native to SuSE and CUPS. It all worked perfectly so I didn't need to go to download any third party stuff. I use a utility called escputil to check the ink level of my epson: # escputil --raw-device=/dev/usb/lp0 -i Escputil version 4.2.7, Copyright (C) 2000-2001 Robert Krawitz Escputil comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; for details type 'escputil -l' This is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it under certain conditions; type 'escputil -l' for details.
Ink color Percent remaining Black 7 Cyan 39 Magenta 44 Yellow 57 hm... almost out of black ink.. -- Paul Cartwright Registered Linux user # 367800
On Wednesday 15 March 2006 08:13, Paul Cartwright wrote:
On Wed March 15 2006 11:00 am, Kevanf1 wrote:
When I did set it up with SuSE (I still don't have my SuSE tin up and running at the moment) I just used the set up native to SuSE and CUPS. It all worked perfectly so I didn't need to go to download any third party stuff.
I use a utility called escputil to check the ink level of my epson: # escputil --raw-device=/dev/usb/lp0 -i Escputil version 4.2.7, Copyright (C) 2000-2001 Robert Krawitz Escputil comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; for details type 'escputil -l' This is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it under certain conditions; type 'escputil -l' for details.
Ink color Percent remaining Black 7 Cyan 39 Magenta 44 Yellow 57
hm... almost out of black ink.. -- Paul Cartwright Registered Linux user # 367800 Paul this is the utility mentioned in Gutenprint which I have not been able to successfully install yet. -- Russ
On Wed March 15 2006 12:49 pm, russbucket wrote:
# escputil --raw-device=/dev/usb/lp0 -i Escputil version 4.2.7, Copyright (C) 2000-2001 Robert Krawitz Escputil comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; for details type 'escputil -l' This is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it under certain conditions; type 'escputil -l' for details.
Ink color Percent remaining Black 7 Cyan 39 Magenta 44 Yellow 57
hm... almost out of black ink.. -- Paul Cartwright Registered Linux user # 367800
Paul this is the utility mentioned in Gutenprint which I have not been able to successfully install yet. SUSE 10.0 KDE 3.5.1 Escputil version 4.2.7 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 33152 2005-09-12 19:59 /usr/bin/escputil
-- Paul Cartwright Registered Linux user # 367800 X-Request-PGP: http://home.bellsouth.net/p/PWP-pcartwright/key.asc
Hello, On Mar 15 09:49 russbucket wrote (shortened):
On Wednesday 15 March 2006 08:13, Paul Cartwright wrote:
I use a utility called escputil to check the ink level of my epson: ... Paul this is the utility mentioned in Gutenprint which I have not been able to successfully install yet.
??? user@host> type -a escputil escputil is /usr/bin/escputil user@host> rpm -qf /usr/bin/escputil ghostscript-library-8.15rc1-29 user@host> man escputil ... Kind Regards Johannes Meixner -- SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstrasse 5 Mail: jsmeix@suse.de 90409 Nuernberg, Germany WWW: http://www.suse.de/
On Thursday 16 March 2006 02:08, Johannes Meixner wrote:
Hello,
On Mar 15 09:49 russbucket wrote (shortened):
On Wednesday 15 March 2006 08:13, Paul Cartwright wrote:
I use a utility called escputil to check the ink level of my epson:
...
Paul this is the utility mentioned in Gutenprint which I have not been able to successfully install yet.
???
user@host> type -a escputil escputil is /usr/bin/escputil
user@host> rpm -qf /usr/bin/escputil ghostscript-library-8.15rc1-29
user@host> man escputil ...
Kind Regards Johannes Meixner -- SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstrasse 5 Mail: jsmeix@suse.de 90409 Nuernberg, Germany WWW: http://www.suse.de/ I'll keep this for reference, but I have not actually installed escputil yet since gutenprint is what I'm having trouble installing.
Thats for the response. -- Russ
On Tuesday 14 March 2006 17:53, Gil Weber wrote:
On Tue March 14 2006 5:46 pm, Bruce Marshall wrote:
(snip)
The best thing to do when considering the purchase of any major piece of equipment is to go to sites that provide for 'user comments' on what it is you want to buy. They are a wealth of information.
I just went looking for the HP 1320 reviews since I thought that was the printer that the '80% left' comment pertained to. I didn't find any reference to that but I did find a wealth of negative comments on the 1320 that mainly dealt with a terrible manual feed, and noise. Many people didn't like the printer, some taking it back to where they bought it... but I use this only as an example of what you may find.
Bruce, can you point me to a couple of URLs of such sites? Thx Gil
Sure.... just google for <name of printer and model> reviews as in: HP 1320 reviews Should come up with a lot of hits.
On Tue March 14 2006 7:29 pm, Bruce Marshall wrote:
Bruce, can you point me to a couple of URLs of such sites? Thx Gil
Sure.... just google for <name of printer and model> reviews
as in: HP 1320 reviews
Should come up with a lot of hits.
Geez, so simple. Thx.
On Tue March 14 2006 9:08 am, Jack Malone wrote:
At 08:02 PM 3/13/2006, Gil Weber wrote:
On Mon March 13 2006 8:50 pm, Jack Malone wrote:
1160 1320
I have a hp 13?? at work taht has the built in network card on it I will check tomorrow an let you know which one it is.
Ok check an its the 1320N that I have here at work. I have it hooked to the network with ethernet that is built into it an going thrue linux server so that they can print to it over the network. It would seem to reason if they have a network option on it that you can get the one without an it should work with linux but who knows for sure. Mine works with no problems at all here. Not used that much but have not had any problems that the uses have complain on yet.
jack
Thanks again, Jack! :o) Gil
Gil Weber wrote:
Has anyone had experience with any of the following HP Laser Jet printers under SuSE 9.3 or 10.0?
1160 1320
Your feedback is appreciated. Thx. :) Gil
While not HP, I've noticed that Samsung is now supporting Linux. Also, a friend is planning on getting a Samsung multifunction printer. I'll have to see how well it supports Linux, after she gets it.
Gil Weber wrote:
Has anyone had experience with any of the following HP Laser Jet printers under SuSE 9.3 or 10.0?
1160 1320 At the Linux installfest last week, one of our members had a 1320. While
On Monday 13 March 2006 8:52 pm, James Knott wrote:
that model was not specifically supported by SuSE 10.0, the ppd was
available, and easily installable. The printer/scanner worked after a few
minutes. You can get the ppd from Linux Printing.org.
http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=HP-LaserJet_1320
--
Jerry Feldman
Hello, On Mar 14 08:17 Jerry Feldman wrote (shortened):
At the Linux installfest last week, one of our members had a 1320. While that model was not specifically supported by SuSE 10.0, the ppd was available, and easily installable. The printer/scanner worked after a few minutes. You can get the ppd from Linux Printing.org. http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=HP-LaserJet_1320
As this one is a PostScript printer, only a PPD is sufficient. To avoid misunderstandings, have a look at http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:CUPS_in_a_Nutshell to understand the difference between a PPD for a PostScript printer and a PPD for a (Ghostscript) driver for a non-PostScript printer. The latter cannot work without the driver. Kind Regards Johannes Meixner -- SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstrasse 5 Mail: jsmeix@suse.de 90409 Nuernberg, Germany WWW: http://www.suse.de/
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