David, Thanks for responding. I have used a LOT of the options for the install but this is NOT new for me. I just tried a "production" version of VB and it failed as well. Same result. I'm looking at /var/log/messages. It seems that oom-reaper was invoked due to VB. I'm beginning to think that something in my config is breaking the install or rather causing a break. Is there a way to get all the config parameters dumped to a file? Like I said, my config is complicated. Maybe I'll try Tumbleweed 13x. Best regards, George... On Friday, March 20, 2020, 6:48:13 PM PDT, David C. Rankin wrote: On 03/20/2020 07:04 PM, George R Goffe wrote:

Can someone give me some hints/tips/suggestions please?

Best regards,

George...

I have multiple versions of Leap created in VirtualBox without any problems. I don't know about tricks or tips, but for VMs I only use ext4 as the filesystem. (the default Leap/Tumbleweed will attempt to install with btrfs) I generally allocate 2G RAM for the VMs (you can get by with as little as 512K) and I set a variable amount of drive space to max at 8G - I install with the "minimal X" pattern and then add the KDE3 repo for a full KDE3 install, as well as kernel source and all the gcc/g++ tools and a number of libraries. The only thing I do is download the net-iso, point virtualbox to the .iso file to install and then just follow the prompts but make sure in partitioning to wipe the suggested default and create a / with ext4 -- no need for a separate / and /home on the VM for my use. That's about all I can tell you. I'll load 15.2 in the next week or so and if I see anything different, then I'll report back. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

George R Goffe wrote:

Per,

Here's what I sent to David who also responded to my plea for help.

I do NOT think it's the VB config. I've been able to install/run MANY versions of Fedora Core. I suspect that it's my config options that are breaking the install.

I run TW and Leap both on xen and on real iron, many of them - sometimes a config (nfsroot, iscsi, multipathing) can be a little tricky to get to work, but in the end it works. Which config options are you referring to here ? -- Per Jessen, Zürich (10.7°C) http://www.hostsuisse.com/ - virtual servers, made in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

George R Goffe wrote:

Per,

The partitioning is one major area. I select a lot of the products... multiple desktop managers... rename the ethernet device name (eth0)...

I'm looking at the partially(?) installed system via the rescue option from the .iso. I don't see any way to see where the installation was halted. It all looks ok so far, /boot is almost empty.

Hi George the latter is not good - a a brandnew installation, you ought to have at one initrd and one kernel, symlinked as initrd and vmlinuz. So clearly it did not finish.

Do you have a way to tell where the install failed?

Maybe check out the logs /var/log/YaST2/y2log (something like that). It's basically not so interesting when the VM is being killed - to me, that puts the blame entirely on the VM setup.

As it is now, the install appears to be running properly... the packages fly on by on the GUI. I step away for a few hours and come back to find the installation aborted. /var/log/messages shows the oom-killer has been invoked against the VM instance.

I'm not familiar with VirtualBox, but does it not have a specific amount of memory, with a hard upper limit? Well, apparently not, so maybe add some memory (provided your host has enough). I'm certain an installation of Leap takes no more than 2Gb or even 1Gb with active swap. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (11.1°C) http://www.hostsuisse.com/ - virtual servers, made in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 El 2020-03-21 a las 19:53 -0000, George R Goffe escribió:

Here's a sample of the msgs. Can I send you a log? It almost looks like the hdd failed or stopped responding.

You can upload logs to susepaste.org for some period of time, and post the link here.

1219 01:08:56.022924 VMMDev: Guest Log: int13_harddisk: function 02, unmapped device for ELDL=8f 1220 01:08:56.227979 GIM: KVM: VCPU  0: Enabled system-time struct. at 0x0000000076401000 - u32TscScale=0xe942f1f9 i8TscShift=-1 uVersion=2 fFlags=0x1 uTsc=0x48fe84cfd uVirtNanoTS=0x3c2881220 c98f69 1221 01:08:56.228030 TM: Switching TSC mode from 'Dynamic' to 'RealTscOffset' 1222 01:08:56.526855 TMR3UtcNow: nsNow=1 584 727 161 285 063 000 nsPrev=1 584 723 026 890 398 000 -> cNsDelta=4 134 394 665 000 (offLag=0 offVirtualSync=0 offVirtualSyncGivenUp=0, NowAgai1222 n=1 584 727 161 285 063 000) 1223 01:08:56.526886 GIM: KVM: Enabled wall-clock struct. at 0x0000000076400000 - u32Sec=1584727161 u32Nano=285063000 uVersion=2 1224 01:08:56.569601 PIT: mode=2 count=0x12a5 (4773) - 249.98 Hz (ch=0) 1225 01:08:56.570178 APIC0: Switched mode to x2APIC 1226 01:08:56.575512 IEM: rdmsr(0x140) -> #GP(0) 1227 01:08:56.700730 PIT: mode=0 count=0x10000 (65536) - 18.20 Hz (ch=0) 1228 01:08:56.901791 OHCI: Software reset 1229 01:08:58.868741 AHCI#0: Reset the HBA 1230 01:08:58.868768 VD#0: Cancelling all active requests 1231 01:08:58.872171 AHCI#0: Port 0 reset 1232 01:08:58.875019 VD#0: Cancelling all active requests 1233 01:09:00.511613 PIIX3 ATA: Ctl#1: RESET, DevSel=0 AIOIf=0 CmdIf0=0xa0 (-1 usec ago) CmdIf1=0x00 (-1 usec ago) 1234 01:09:00.511689 PIIX3 ATA: Ctl#1: finished processing RESET 1235 01:09:00.897101 OHCI: USB Reset 1236 01:09:00.961659 OHCI: Software reset 1237 01:09:00.961959 OHCI: USB Operational 1238 01:09:01.602155 Enabling different vbva mode 1239 01:09:01.861965 Display::i_handleDisplayResize: uScreenId=0 pvVRAM=00007f8d84000000 w=800 h=600 bpp=32 cbLine=0xC80 flags=0x1 origin=0,0 1240 03:39:24.558347 AsyncCompletion: Task 0x007f8e182ba9c0 completed after 11 seconds

It does seem some hard disk trouble. I would investigate the host logs for that. Run the long smart test. - -- Cheers Carlos E. R. (from openSUSE 15.1 (Legolas)) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iHoEARECADoWIQQZEb51mJKK1KpcU/W1MxgcbY1H1QUCXnZyqRwccm9iaW4ubGlz dGFzQHRlbGVmb25pY2EubmV0AAoJELUzGBxtjUfVKw8An3ihFVAtGB4Il71in+y2 t/OaCfAwAKCLIEkVGIZCEY7bCwZXv6PrREKx+A== =8XqF -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 El 2020-03-21 a las 20:39 -0000, George R Goffe escribió:

Carlos,

I have two files... around 2-3k each. Paste of the smaller has frozen my browser. Sigh...

:-o

Did I miss something? There's no way to directly upload a file?

Yes, the command susepaste. You can download the rpm. It is just a script and perhaps a man page. - -- Cheers Carlos E. R. (from openSUSE 15.1 (Legolas)) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iHoEARECADoWIQQZEb51mJKK1KpcU/W1MxgcbY1H1QUCXnaB6Rwccm9iaW4ubGlz dGFzQHRlbGVmb25pY2EubmV0AAoJELUzGBxtjUfVa+YAn0zmiTiSAw7VkOmfGpI4 AVdPRO83AKCYLFgpzS+S+4YGzyFXTDCkzMGkPg== =4zwW -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Carlos, I do have the target virtual hdd pre-allocated. I could configure the install to leave that virtual partition alone and then do a swapadd during the install. Do you think  that would work? I like this idea about running top, hopefully it's in the installer. Am I allowed to send log files to this list? I have a log from the host during the oom and also from VB. Thanks for your response, George... On Saturday, March 21, 2020, 6:16:59 AM PDT, Carlos E. R. wrote: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 El 2020-03-21 a las 12:44 -0000, George R Goffe escribió:

Per,

The partitioning is one major area. I select a lot of the products... multiple desktop managers... rename the ethernet device name (eth0)...

I'm looking at the partially(?) installed system via the rescue option from the .iso. I don't see any way to see where the installation was halted. It all looks ok so far, /boot is almost empty. Do you have a way to tell where the install failed?

As it is now, the install appears to be running properly... the packages fly on by on the GUI. I step away for a few hours and come back to find the installation aborted. /var/log/messages shows the oom-killer has been invoked against the VM instance.

On the host? Then your host system has a problem, because if the installation system "inside" has a memory problem it is the virtual machine "inside" which has to call OOM and kill itself - but that would never affect the virtualization system. If it is VB in the host which crashes, you have a memory issue on your host, or VB is faulty.

This seems to tell me that the installer has a memory problem. "buying" memory but never freeing it. Eventually, the VM is killed.

Ideas. You could partition the virtual hard disk in advance, creating a swap partition. Early on the installation, you have to open a terminal (ctrl-X, I think, or jump to one of the virtual terminals), and activate that swap partition. That way you can have more memory inside the installation system. Then on that same terminal run "top" sorted by memory to watch if something is growing in memory usage. - -- Cheers         Carlos E. R.         (from openSUSE 15.1 (Legolas)) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iHoEARECADoWIQQZEb51mJKK1KpcU/W1MxgcbY1H1QUCXnYTmxwccm9iaW4ubGlz dGFzQHRlbGVmb25pY2EubmV0AAoJELUzGBxtjUfV8XUAnjQDvecmw0zuxSWrhkiw jz0pJ3UVAJ9YuhyjpknCovo7yqu15akJe+8Olw== =Noau -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Carlos, I had to copy the file https://build.opensuse.org/source/openSUSE:Factory/susepaste/susepaste-scrip... and manually install it. susepaste -t "tumbleweed install oom - host msgs" -n grgoffe -e 40320 -f text  tumbleweed-oom-latest-abort.messages produces: + expr $'https://susepaste.org/95061758\r' : '^https://susepaste.org/[0-9a-f]\+' ++ echo $'https://susepaste.org/95061758\r' ++ sed 's|^https://susepaste.org/\([0-9a-f]\+\)[^0-9a-f]*|\1|' + ID=95061758 + echo 'Pasted as:' Pasted as: + echo '   https://susepaste.org/95061758' https://susepaste.org/95061758 + echo '   https://paste.opensuse.org/95061758' https://paste.opensuse.org/95061758 + '[' -x /usr/bin/xclip ']' + echo https://susepaste.org/95061758 + xclip -selection XA_CLIPBOARD + echo 'Link is also in your clipboard.' Link is also in your clipboard. When I go to either of the URLs above I get page not found. I try to login and enter my userid(?) grgoffe but get this message: Authentication error; not a valid OpenID. I don't see how this script allows for authentication with the site. Anonymous posting? Sounds dangerous to DOS attacks? I must be doing something wrong but do NOT see it. Your thoughts please? George... On Saturday, March 21, 2020, 1:29:01 PM PDT, Carlos E. R. wrote: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 El 2020-03-21 a las 20:06 -0000, George R Goffe escribió:

Carlos,

I do have the target virtual hdd pre-allocated. I could configure the install to leave that virtual partition alone and then do a swapadd during the install. Do you think that would work?

If it is short on memory, yes, it should. The installation minimal memory is larger than the running system, which may be as low as half a gig. But I suspect your problem is with the host.

I like this idea about running top, hopefully it's in the installer.

Am I allowed to send log files to this list? I have a log from the host during the oom and also from VB.

You can add text attachments, there is a size limit. But it is frowned uppon if bigish. Better to upload to susepaste.org (say for a week or a month) and post here the link. There is also a script to do it from Linux (susepaste). It may claims failure, but then looking at "recent" at the site, you can find your upload and paste the link. - -- Cheers         Carlos E. R.         (from openSUSE 15.1 (Legolas)) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iHoEARECADoWIQQZEb51mJKK1KpcU/W1MxgcbY1H1QUCXnZ3MBwccm9iaW4ubGlz dGFzQHRlbGVmb25pY2EubmV0AAoJELUzGBxtjUfVoJoAn0wiqnzDn8Hh/pA8t9kK sjkaCLUgAJoDnmW8DxVNbsxvis719EwDOn+/9Q== =hNmQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Carlos, The debug output came out because I added '-xv' at the beginning of the script. Well... some good news and bad news. The good: I used a newer iso image and this problem seems to have gone away. The bad: The installer has a program blkid which is invoked when installing the kernel-default. This installation process runs dracut which runs blkid. blkid reveals (I believe) a kernel bug that appears when it (blkid) accesses a swap area... it goes into an uninterruptible sleep... which is the END OF THE INSTALL. From the bug below you'll see that blkid w/o operands hangs and shutdown now (init 0) also hangs when it tries to turn off swap. Sigh... There's a bug report about this that I wrote at https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1800831. Somehow I didn't find out what the root cause was... I just wrote the report and provided info that was requested. I think the problem was in the kernel though. I'm running this kernel now because VirtualBox can build it's LKMs on it (5.5.0-0.rc6.git0.1.fc32.x86_64, the rest of Fedora Core 33 (Rawhide) is at 5.6.0-0.rc6.git2.1.fc33), the Tumbleweed installer is at 5.5.9-1.1 and still(?) has the bug. If I can help further please let me know. Best regards, George... On Saturday, March 21, 2020, 5:31:16 PM PDT, Carlos E. R. wrote: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 El 2020-03-21 a las 22:25 -0000, George R Goffe escribió:

I had to copy the file https://build.opensuse.org/source/openSUSE:Factory/susepaste/susepaste-scrip... and manually install it.

I was rather thinking of: http://download.opensuse.org/tumbleweed/repo/oss/noarch/susepaste-0.6-2.1.no... but nevermind.

susepaste -t "tumbleweed install oom - host msgs" -n grgoffe -e 40320 -f text  tumbleweed-oom-latest-abort.messages

The "-f text" is not needed, it is supposed to detect the file type. Nevermind. What I don't understand is why you get the verbose or debug output.

produces:

+ expr $'https://susepaste.org/95061758\r' : '^https://susepaste.org/[0-9a-f]\+' ++ echo $'https://susepaste.org/95061758\r' ++ sed 's|^https://susepaste.org/\([0-9a-f]\+\)[^0-9a-f]*|\1|' + ID=95061758 + echo 'Pasted as:' Pasted as: + echo '   https://susepaste.org/95061758' https://susepaste.org/95061758 + echo '   https://paste.opensuse.org/95061758' https://paste.opensuse.org/95061758 + '[' -x /usr/bin/xclip ']' + echo https://susepaste.org/95061758 + xclip -selection XA_CLIPBOARD + echo 'Link is also in your clipboard.' Link is also in your clipboard.

When I go to either of the URLs above I get page not found. I try to login and enter my userid(?) grgoffe but get this message: Authentication error; not a valid OpenID.

I don't see it here, either: https://susepaste.org/lists

I don't see how this script allows for authentication with the site. Anonymous posting? Sounds dangerous to DOS attacks?

There is no login, all is anonimous. It is the same as publishing a post here, it is public. Well, there are other pastebin sites, if you want to try.

I must be doing something wrong but do NOT see it.

No, I do not know why it failed, sorry. - -- Cheers         Carlos E. R.         (from openSUSE 15.1 (Legolas)) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iHoEARECADoWIQQZEb51mJKK1KpcU/W1MxgcbY1H1QUCXnaxnhwccm9iaW4ubGlz dGFzQHRlbGVmb25pY2EubmV0AAoJELUzGBxtjUfVZHwAoIV1kjJZeSt5julIpqKa C6QtL878AJ9X5WMmcXqVi9wkNIqfRRFdhOPo5A== =mu9N -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Per Jessen wrote:

George R Goffe wrote:

...

The bad: The installer has a program blkid which is invoked when installing the kernel-default. This installation process runs dracut which runs blkid. blkid reveals (I believe) a kernel bug that appears when it (blkid) accesses a swap area... it goes into an uninterruptible sleep... which is the END OF THE INSTALL. From the bug below you'll see that blkid w/o operands hangs and shutdown now (init 0) also hangs when it tries to turn off swap. Sigh...

If this is a bug in blkid that appears during the building of the initrd, it ought to be reproducible on virtually every install ? Maybe I'll crank up a xen guest with TW.

I forgot, only just yesterday I upgraded a TW desktop, new kernel 5.5.9, so initrd was rebuilt. No problem. Running 'blkid' without arguments: # blkid /dev/sda1: UUID="ca3b748f-7ce5-4e83-8a35-7801a6a7d898" TYPE="swap" PARTUUID="837f9747-01" /dev/sda2: UUID="3f44a97f-c1cf-4e45-b66e-959881f194fe" TYPE="jfs" PARTUUID="837f9747-02" When your 'blkid' gets hung up, it must be environment dependent. My new xen guest with TW is just about ready, I'll report later. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (0.0°C) http://www.dns24.ch/ - free dynamic DNS, made in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Per, I keep running into this problem at about this time of day (Mon 23 Mar 2020 11:19:43 PM PDT). USA/California. The install tries to start and then a site named "download.../oss" seems to fail to respond. I get a popup and poke the retry button NUMEROUS times. Skip gets the same response. Abort works though. :-) I configure this install exactly the same way every time. I'm using the newest distribution openSUSE-Tumbleweed-NET-x86_64-Snapshot20200320-Media.iso. The install system seems to run wicked but there's no ifconfig command so I can't check the interface. Do you have any clues or hints? I'm about to just give up on SUSE at this point in time. Best regards, George... On Sunday, March 22, 2020, 2:50:14 AM PDT, Per Jessen wrote: Per Jessen wrote:

When your 'blkid' gets hung up, it must be environment dependent.  My new xen guest with TW is just about ready, I'll report later.

On new TW guest: # blkid /dev/xvda1: UUID="d50c07b1-bbb4-4eae-b90d-5ae1cc8e1836" TYPE="jfs" PARTUUID="00079a3b-01" /dev/xvda2: UUID="36dab3aa-8baf-4284-80b3-9b56fd29ed88" TYPE="swap" PARTUUID="00079a3b-02" -- Per Jessen, Zürich (3.2°C) http://www.dns24.ch/ - free dynamic DNS, made in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

George R Goffe wrote:

Per,

I keep running into this problem at about this time of day (Mon 23 Mar 2020 11:19:43 PM PDT). USA/California.

The install tries to start and then a site named "download.../oss" seems to fail to respond. I get a popup and poke the retry button NUMEROUS times. Skip gets the same response. Abort works though. :-)

Hi George that sounds like a network problem - maybe too many people watching Netflix? :-) You should have plenty of good download mirrors accessible from California though. At most I would perhaps expect to see slow(er) downloads, but repeated timeouts is unusual.

The install system seems to run wicked but there's no ifconfig command so I can't check the interface.

'ifconfig', 'netstat' etc were deprecated long ago, they are still available, but not in the installer. Use 'ip' instead, e.g. 'ip addr show' to see addresses on all interfaces.

Do you have any clues or hints? I'm about to just give up on SUSE at this point in time.

My only guess is a network problem. Where do you get the ISO image from? If I try downloading the ISO from a mirror over your way, I get miserable rates, 10-20kb/s - which is to be expected. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (-1.7°C) http://www.hostsuisse.com/ - dedicated server rental in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Roger Whittaker composed on 2020-03-24 04:36 (UTC-0400):

If you are using wireless, then it's this:

https://bugzilla.suse.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1156920

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On 22/03/2020 06.18, George R Goffe wrote:

Carlos,

The debug output came out because I added '-xv' at the beginning of the script.

Ah! Ok :-)

Well... some good news and bad news.

The good: I used a newer iso image and this problem seems to have gone away.

The bad: The installer has a program blkid which is invoked when installing the kernel-default. This installation process runs dracut which runs blkid. blkid reveals (I believe) a kernel bug that appears when it (blkid) accesses a swap area... it goes into an uninterruptible sleep... which is the END OF THE INSTALL. From the bug below you'll see that blkid w/o operands hangs and shutdown now (init 0) also hangs when it tries to turn off swap. Sigh...

Curious. And this was not caught by openqa :-?

There's a bug report about this that I wrote at https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1800831. Somehow I didn't find out what the root cause was... I just wrote the report and provided info that was requested. I think the problem was in the kernel though.

Well, there needs to be a bug declared at bugzilla.opensuse.org. I'd guess that if redhat has solved the problem they have not told upstream and has not propagated. If you are willing: https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Submitting_bug_reports I'm in the process of rebuilding/migrating my desktop computer, then I can try to install TW in VBox and try reproduce your problem. The existing machine did not have enough RAM.

I'm running this kernel now because VirtualBox can build it's LKMs on it (5.5.0-0.rc6.git0.1.fc32.x86_64, the rest of Fedora Core 33 (Rawhide) is at 5.6.0-0.rc6.git2.1.fc33), the Tumbleweed installer is at 5.5.9-1.1 and still(?) has the bug.

If I can help further please let me know.

Best regards,

George...

Er... just one detail, if you allow me :-) The custom in this list is to reply interlined, as I do in these posts, not top-posting ;-) -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.1 x86_64 at Telcontar)