Hello everybody, I want to change the mail server from MS Exchange to Sendmail to use Linux. But I don't know where to start. I've found a text file that is starting with something like "Sendmail is probably the most complex mailer" which scared me. Can't I make a sendmail configuration quickly? Regards. -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
Tuncay Baskan wrote:
Hello everybody,
I want to change the mail server from MS Exchange to Sendmail to use Linux. But I don't know where to start. I've found a text file that is starting with something like "Sendmail is probably the most complex mailer" which scared me.
Can't I make a sendmail configuration quickly?
Using a default configuration like the ones that comes with suse is very easy. There's more than one mailer (sendmail) for LiNUX although, and others are far easier to configure and flexible enough and even more secure. Take a look at www.linuxapps.com for smail, qmail, etc... Have a good one.
Regards.
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"Francisco M. Marzoa Alonso" wrote:
Tuncay Baskan wrote:
Hello everybody,
I want to change the mail server from MS Exchange to Sendmail to use Linux. But I don't know where to start. I've found a text file that is starting with something like "Sendmail is probably the most complex mailer" which scared me.
Can't I make a sendmail configuration quickly?
Using a default configuration like the ones that comes with suse is very easy.
Yeah. If you've configured a mailer before I think it must be easy. But I've never configured one before. There is a small network consisting of 15-20 users. I want to setup a linux box to connect them to internet and I want to use that box as a mail server too. I took a look at sendmail config files. As expected I didn't undertstand anything. I'm now reading mail-howto. That document claims that qmail is more secure and easy to install. Am I on the right track?
There's more than one mailer (sendmail) for LiNUX although, and others are far easier to configure and flexible enough and even more secure. Take a look at www.linuxapps.com for smail, qmail, etc...
Have a good one.
Regards.
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Tuncay Baskan wrote:
"Francisco M. Marzoa Alonso" wrote:
Tuncay Baskan wrote:
Hello everybody,
I want to change the mail server from MS Exchange to Sendmail to use Linux. But I don't know where to start. I've found a text file that is starting with something like "Sendmail is probably the most complex mailer" which scared me.
Can't I make a sendmail configuration quickly?
Using a default configuration like the ones that comes with suse is very easy.
Yeah. If you've configured a mailer before I think it must be easy.
Not too much, when you install SuSE the own distribution ask you what kind of mail server do you want and then a "custom" sendmail.cf is installed; i've to say that in my own configuration i needed to edit a bit that sendmail.cf file, but it's not dificult if you've a concrete question to ask it on this list or another and obtain a right answer.
But I've never configured one before. There is a small network consisting of 15-20 users. I want to setup a linux box to connect them to internet and I want to use that box as a mail server too. I took a look at sendmail config files. As expected I didn't undertstand anything. I'm now reading mail-howto. That document claims that qmail is more secure and easy to install. Am I on the right track?
Yes, you're. I've no doubt about that, qmail has not been exploited never as far as i known and sendmail have a long history of sad security stories... There's a book from editorial SAMS called "Maximum Linux Security" that explains very well, between others, how to install and configure a qmail server. Perhaps you should consider read it. Have a good one. -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
What about Postfix? Anyone have a clue how secure that is? Paul ''~`` ( o o ) +------------------.oooO--(_)--Oooo.------------------+ |Paul Zimdars pzimdars@zimcity.net| | .oooO | | ( ) Oooo. | +---------------------\ (----( )--------------------+ _) ) / (_/ On Thu, 11 May 2000, Francisco M. Marzoa Alonso wrote:
Tuncay Baskan wrote:
"Francisco M. Marzoa Alonso" wrote:
Tuncay Baskan wrote:
Hello everybody,
I want to change the mail server from MS Exchange to Sendmail to use Linux. But I don't know where to start. I've found a text file that is starting with something like "Sendmail is probably the most complex mailer" which scared me.
Can't I make a sendmail configuration quickly?
Using a default configuration like the ones that comes with suse is very easy.
Yeah. If you've configured a mailer before I think it must be easy.
Not too much, when you install SuSE the own distribution ask you what kind of mail server do you want and then a "custom" sendmail.cf is installed; i've to say that in my own configuration i needed to edit a bit that sendmail.cf file, but it's not dificult if you've a concrete question to ask it on this list or another and obtain a right answer.
But I've never configured one before. There is a small network consisting of 15-20 users. I want to setup a linux box to connect them to internet and I want to use that box as a mail server too. I took a look at sendmail config files. As expected I didn't undertstand anything. I'm now reading mail-howto. That document claims that qmail is more secure and easy to install. Am I on the right track?
Yes, you're. I've no doubt about that, qmail has not been exploited never as far as i known and sendmail have a long history of sad security stories...
There's a book from editorial SAMS called "Maximum Linux Security" that explains very well, between others, how to install and configure a qmail server. Perhaps you should consider read it.
Have a good one.
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Tuncany Tuncay Baskan wrote:
That document claims that qmail is more secure and easy to install. Am I on the right track?
In my own experience .... yes :-) Sendmail is fine for dialup but if you want to configure a server that's connected all of the time then something else is better. I did set out to do something with Exim but to do that you have to chop your own makefile around. This is fine if you are the programmer who wrote it. I've tried the rpms for exim with SuSE 6.1 to 6.4 and they didn't want to know. So, I think that sorts that one out ? Qmail is complex but you do get some good docs with it that tell you what to do. In comparison sendmail assumes that you worked at Berkeley or somewhere similar and the you have a brain like Einstein :-) Other thing is you have to be good at cryptic clues :-) Thanks -- Richard Sheffield UK -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
What's the name of qmail package in suse? I can't find it. I also checked ftp site for a newer package, but there isn't a package there too. Richard wrote:
Tuncany
Tuncay Baskan wrote:
That document claims that qmail is more secure and easy to install. Am I on the right track?
In my own experience .... yes :-)
Sendmail is fine for dialup but if you want to configure a server that's connected all of the time then something else is better.
I did set out to do something with Exim but to do that you have to chop your own makefile around. This is fine if you are the programmer who wrote it. I've tried the rpms for exim with SuSE 6.1 to 6.4 and they didn't want to know. So, I think that sorts that one out ?
Qmail is complex but you do get some good docs with it that tell you what to do. In comparison sendmail assumes that you worked at Berkeley or somewhere similar and the you have a brain like Einstein :-) Other thing is you have to be good at cryptic clues :-)
Thanks
-- Richard Sheffield UK
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What's the name of qmail package in suse? I can't find it. I also checked ftp site for a newer package, but there isn't a package there too.
I don't believe there is a qmail package in suse. I've built it from source: http://www.qmail.org. Very easy and the documentation, although quite a lot, is quite good. I recommend Life with Qmail. Would be interested to know if there is a suse package. Matt -- ---------------------------------------------------------- stick at spinner dot org dot nz Linux User #160471 http://www.spinner.org.nz ---------------------------------------------------------- -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
On Fri, 12 May 2000, Richard wrote:
Sendmail is fine for dialup but if you want to configure a server that's connected all of the time then something else is better.
How do you come to this conclusion - sendmail is an industrial-strength smtp mail system, an industry standard. For dialup it's a sledgehammer/nut scenario, the fact that it's practical on a single dialup system just highlights it's usability. Given an open 'net pipe, simply starting it in daemon mode with scheduled or on-demand sending it's hard to imagine a more flexible system. -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
Wulfie baby wulfie wrote:
How do you come to this conclusion - sendmail is an industrial-strength smtp mail system, an industry standard. For dialup it's a sledgehammer/nut scenario, the fact that it's practical on a single dialup system just highlights it's usability. Given an open 'net pipe, simply starting it in daemon mode with scheduled or on-demand sending it's hard to imagine a more flexible system.
The international opinion that I've seen (other than this list) is that it's a pile of doggies doings :-) Even O'Reilly in their book "Running Linux" recommend that smail is used because it's easier to configure. In fact, looking at it in front of me it's very like exim to configure. Just that I can't find any useful docs about exim. Thanks -- Richard Sheffield UK -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
At 11:04 AM 05/13/00 +0100, Richard wrote:
wulfie wrote:
How do you come to this conclusion - sendmail is an industrial-strength smtp mail system, an industry standard. For dialup it's a sledgehammer/nut scenario, the fact that it's practical on a single dialup system just highlights it's usability. Given an open 'net pipe, simply starting it in daemon mode with scheduled or on-demand sending it's hard to imagine a more flexible system.
The international opinion that I've seen (other than this list) is that it's a pile of doggies doings :-) Even O'Reilly in their book "Running Linux" recommend that smail is used because it's easier to configure. In fact, looking at it in front of me it's very like exim to configure. Just that I can't find any useful docs about exim.
My only comment on this is that I'm an Idiot (as someone on this list commented), with no sendmail experience. The sendmail.cf file is really scary. But, in about a hour, and with the help of http://www.linuxhq.com/lg/issue45/pollman/sendmail.html (which is on my 6.3 CD), I had written a .mc file, and use m4 to build a new .cf file, replacing the one that came with SuSE. Been working without a problem since then. Bill Moseley mailto:moseley@hank.org -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
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