-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I have apps randomly crashing, and I suspect they are "hiting a limit". Currently I have: cer@Telcontar:~> ulimit -a core file size (blocks, -c) unlimited data seg size (kbytes, -d) unlimited scheduling priority (-e) 0 file size (blocks, -f) unlimited pending signals (-i) 128109 max locked memory (kbytes, -l) 64 max memory size (kbytes, -m) unlimited open files (-n) 2048 pipe size (512 bytes, -p) 8 POSIX message queues (bytes, -q) 819200 real-time priority (-r) 0 stack size (kbytes, -s) 8192 cpu time (seconds, -t) unlimited max user processes (-u) 4096 virtual memory (kbytes, -v) unlimited file locks (-x) unlimited cer@Telcontar:~> Files I have doubled about a week ago, when I noticed that opening several firefox instances would crash. max user processes I increased years ago, also because of firefox. Now it is happening to other apps, like gkrellm or thunar. See a coredump: <1.2> 2022-10-08T17:35:59.893333+02:00 Telcontar systemd-coredump 1129 - - Process 22105 (Thunar) of user 1000 dumped core.#012#012Stack trace of thread 22105:#012#0 0x00005558bb51b430 n/a (thunar + 0x4e430)#012#1 0x00005558bb52d4bd n/a (thunar + 0x604bd)#012#2 0x00007f3222910546 n/a (libgtk-3.so.0 + 0x353546)#012#3 0x00007f32227033b0 n/a (libgtk-3.so.0 + 0x1463b0)#012#4 0x00007f3220bb3180 g_hash_table_foreach (libglib-2.0.so.0 + 0x41180)#012#5 0x00007f322270328b n/a (libgtk-3.so.0 + 0x14628b)#012#6 0x00007f3222708b19 n/a (libgtk-3.so.0 + 0x14bb19)#012#7 0x00007f322299c51f n/a (libgtk-3.so.0 + 0x3df51f)#012#8 0x00007f3220eaae26 n/a (libgobject-2.0.so.0 + 0x13e26)#012#9 0x00007f3220ec740c g_signal_emit_valist (libgobject-2.0.so.0 + 0x3040c)#012#10 0x00007f3220ec795f g_signal_emit (libgobject-2.0.so.0 + 0x3095f)#012#11 0x00007f3222704d1a gtk_cell_area_apply_attributes (libgtk-3.so.0 + 0x147d1a)#012#12 0x00007f3222923f5d n/a (libgtk-3.so.0 + 0x366f5d)#012#13 0x00007f32229260c a n/a (libgtk-3.so.0 + 0x3690ca)#012#14 0x00007f322292c095 n/a (libgtk-3.so.0 + 0x36f095)#012#15 0x00007f32222edcb0 n/a (libgdk-3.so.0 + 0x2fcb0)#012#16 0x00007f3220bc1007 n/a (libglib-2.0.so.0 + 0x4f007)#012#17 0x00007f3220bc4624 g_main_context_dispatch (libglib-2.0.so.0 + 0x52624)#012#18 0x00007f3220bc49c0 n/a (libglib-2.0.so.0 + 0x529c0)#012#19 0x00007f3220bc4a4c g_main_context_iteration (libglib-2.0.so.0 + 0x52a4c)#012#20 0x00007f32211ce8fd g_application_run (libgio-2.0.so.0 + 0xdb8fd)#012#21 0x00005558bb4f72a2 n/a (thunar + 0x2a2a2)#012#22 0x00007f322058f29d __libc_start_main (libc.so.6 + 0x3529d)#012#23 0x00005558bb4f730a n/a (thunar + 0x2a30a)#012#012Stack trace of thread 22123:#012#0 0x00007f32206651c9 __poll (libc.so.6 + 0x10b1c9)#012#1 0x00007f3220bc4939 n/a (libglib-2.0.so.0 + 0x52939)#012#2 0x00007f3220bc4a4c g_main_context_iteration (libglib-2.0.so.0 + 0x52a4c)#012#3 0x00007f3207bf363d n/a (libdconfsettings.so + 0x963d)#012#4 0x00007f3220bedf5e n/a (libglib-2.0.so. 0 + 0x7bf5e)#012#5 0x00007f32209596ea start_thread (libpthread.so.0 + 0xa6ea)#012#6 0x00007f3220671a6f __clone (libc.so.6 + 0x117a6f)#012#012Stack trace of thread 22120:#012#0 0x00007f32206651c9 __poll (libc.so.6 + 0x10b1c9)#012#1 0x00007f3220bc4939 n/a (libglib-2.0.so.0 + 0x52939)#012#2 0x00007f3220bc4c82 g_main_loop_run (libglib-2.0.so.0 + 0x52c82)#012#3 0x00007f3221208c86 n/a (libgio-2.0.so.0 + 0x115c86)#012#4 0x00007f3220bedf5e n/a (libglib-2.0.so.0 + 0x7bf5e)#012#5 0x00007f32209596ea start_thread (libpthread.so.0 + 0xa6ea)#012#6 0x00007f3220671a6f __clone (libc.so.6 + 0x117a6f)#012#012Stack trace of thread 22119:#012#0 0x00007f32206651c9 __poll (libc.so.6 + 0x10b1c9)#012#1 0x00007f3220bc4939 n/a (libglib-2.0.so.0 + 0x52939)#012#2 0x00007f3220bc4a4c g_main_context_iteration (libglib-2.0.so.0 + 0x52a4c)#012#3 0x00007f3220bc4a91 n/a (libglib-2.0.so.0 + 0x52a91)#012#4 0x00007f3220bedf5e n/a (libglib-2.0.so.0 + 0x7bf5e)#012#5 0x00007f32209596ea start_thread (libpthrea d.so.0 + 0xa6ea)#012#6 0x00007f3220671a6f __clone (libc.so.6 + 0x117a6f) How can I find out which of the limits, in any, are being hit? Say, "ulimit -a" prints all the limits. Can I also print the current number used, somehow? man ulimit doesn't seem to say. There is also no entry in syslog about a limit being hit, one has to guess. - -- Cheers Carlos E. R. (from 15.3 x86_64 at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iHoEARECADoWIQQZEb51mJKK1KpcU/W1MxgcbY1H1QUCY0GmFBwccm9iaW4ubGlz dGFzQHRlbGVmb25pY2EubmV0AAoJELUzGBxtjUfV7UsAn02y/CaKSawVEyTP2Wmt TNV59qTuAJ45vDQFXRtHi60VtfQeLH3szxInKw== =4SB4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
Hello, In the Message; Subject : [oS-en] Apps crashing. Message-ID : <a77f0fb9-6ca3-dcd6-5cb2-5822e0eaf2e7@telefonica.net> Date & Time: Sat, 8 Oct 2022 18:32:20 +0200 (CEST) [CER] == "Carlos E. R." <robin.listas@telefonica.net> has written: CER> Hi, CER> I have apps randomly crashing, and I suspect they are "hiting a limit". CER> Currently I have: [...] CER> How can I find out which of the limits, in any, are being hit? CER> Say, "ulimit -a" prints all the limits. Can I also print the current number CER> used, somehow? man ulimit doesn't seem to say. CER> There is also no entry in syslog about a limit being hit, one has to guess. Have you checked the behavior of firefox with trouble shooting mode? How about Hardware acceleration, as well? Regards. --- ┏━━┓彡 野宮 賢 mail-to: nomiya @ galaxy.dti.ne.jp ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ "She continues to deeply divide opinion, nearly a decade after her death in 2013, due to her policies of privatisation, breaking the power of trade unions, and selling off public housing." -- World Is One News --
Carlos E. R. wrote:
I have apps randomly crashing, and I suspect they are "hiting a limit".
Now it is happening to other apps, like gkrellm or thunar. See a coredump:
Hitting some limit will only rarely cause a core dump, most often just an error message. It's not easy to tell from the garbled stack trace, but it does look like a new thread could not be started. Maybe the app initiated the core dump. You might be able to make a more informed guess if you take a look at the core dump (with gdb). Maybe a failed malloc() or fork() or some such. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (13.8°C)
Hello, In the Message; Subject : Re: [oS-en] Apps crashing. Message-ID : <thu645$i5v$1@saturn.local.net> Date & Time: Sun, 09 Oct 2022 12:00:37 +0200 [PJ] == Per Jessen <per@computer.org> has written: [...] PJ> You might be able to make a more informed guess if you take a look at PJ> the core dump (with gdb). Maybe a failed malloc() or fork() or some PJ> such. Until about 10 years ago, I used to see a lot of problems with resource shortages, but these days I don't hear much about it. Even then, I think that Calros has too many resource-related problems. I'm using Vivaldi and have 11 frequently visited sites pasted into tags that I can open immediately, with each tag consuming a reasonable amount of resources, but I haven't had any problems as Carlos. I would think that there might be a problem with Calros' hardware (e.g. low memory), but his machine is, as I recall, not much older than the day he bought it...... Regards. --- ┏━━┓彡 野宮 賢 mail-to: nomiya @ galaxy.dti.ne.jp ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ "She continues to deeply divide opinion, nearly a decade after her death in 2013, due to her policies of privatisation, breaking the power of trade unions, and selling off public housing." -- World Is One News --
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday, 2022-10-09 at 20:23 +0900, Masaru Nomiya wrote:
Hello,
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Subject : Re: [oS-en] Apps crashing. Message-ID : <thu645$i5v$1@saturn.local.net> Date & Time: Sun, 09 Oct 2022 12:00:37 +0200
[PJ] == Per Jessen <per@computer.org> has written:
[...] PJ> You might be able to make a more informed guess if you take a look at PJ> the core dump (with gdb). Maybe a failed malloc() or fork() or some PJ> such.
Until about 10 years ago, I used to see a lot of problems with resource shortages, but these days I don't hear much about it.
Even then, I think that Calros has too many resource-related problems.
Could you post the result of "ulimit -a", please? Preferably on a recently installed machine, to compare with mine. er@Telcontar:~> ulimit -a core file size (blocks, -c) unlimited data seg size (kbytes, -d) unlimited scheduling priority (-e) 0 file size (blocks, -f) unlimited pending signals (-i) 128109 max locked memory (kbytes, -l) 64 max memory size (kbytes, -m) unlimited open files (-n) 2048 pipe size (512 bytes, -p) 8 POSIX message queues (bytes, -q) 819200 real-time priority (-r) 0 stack size (kbytes, -s) 8192 cpu time (seconds, -t) unlimited max user processes (-u) 4096 virtual memory (kbytes, -v) unlimited file locks (-x) unlimited cer@Telcontar:~> For example, on another machine, user processes limit is 31161.
I'm using Vivaldi and have 11 frequently visited sites pasted into tags that I can open immediately, with each tag consuming a reasonable amount of resources, but I haven't had any problems as Carlos.
I would think that there might be a problem with Calros' hardware (e.g. low memory), but his machine is, as I recall, not much older than the day he bought it......
This machine has 32 gigs. But few people do: firefox -P1 One & firefox -P1 Two & firefox -P1 Three & firefox -P1 Four & Right now, Thunderbird has become unresponsive as I was typing on two replies on this thread. I'm copying the text by hand on Alpine. It can not be a limit this time, it may be something related to the new TH version. Unstable. I'm considering a reboot. Huh, now the three windows of TH are black, totally non responsive. I started it again, and it did it again in the middle of sending email, within a minute of being started. And no, there is no FF running. I think the email was sent - huh, th came back now. One full minute in black. And it is very unresponsive. Yep, going to reboot, but I'll do an update first. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. (from openSUSE 15.3 x86_64 at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iHoEARECADoWIQQZEb51mJKK1KpcU/W1MxgcbY1H1QUCY0K3URwccm9iaW4ubGlz dGFzQHRlbGVmb25pY2EubmV0AAoJELUzGBxtjUfVONIAnj9CdU+sg1CNtRe4q4Tp 44KoUBb7AJ9n095OiR+jJ7lieFdNyaadzthPTA== =rfSV -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
Hello, In the Message; Subject : Re: [oS-en] Apps crashing. Message-ID : <d8703fdc-f3d8-eff1-8212-08b3dc13b52a@telefonica.net> Date & Time: Sun, 9 Oct 2022 13:58:08 +0200 (CEST) [CER] == "Carlos E. R." <robin.listas@telefonica.net> has written: CER> On Sunday, 2022-10-09 at 20:23 +0900, Masaru Nomiya wrote: [...] MN> > Even then, I think that Calros has too many resource-related problems. CER> Could you post the result of "ulimit -a", please? Preferably on a recently CER> installed machine, to compare with mine. er@Telcontar:~> ulimit -a CER> core file size (blocks, -c) unlimited CER> data seg size (kbytes, -d) unlimited CER> scheduling priority (-e) 0 CER> file size (blocks, -f) unlimited CER> pending signals (-i) 128109 CER> max locked memory (kbytes, -l) 64 CER> max memory size (kbytes, -m) unlimited CER> open files (-n) 2048 CER> pipe size (512 bytes, -p) 8 CER> POSIX message queues (bytes, -q) 819200 CER> real-time priority (-r) 0 CER> stack size (kbytes, -s) 8192 CER> cpu time (seconds, -t) unlimited CER> max user processes (-u) 4096 CER> virtual memory (kbytes, -v) unlimited CER> file locks (-x) unlimited CER> cer@Telcontar:~> CER> For example, on another machine, user processes limit is 31161. In my case, masaru> ulimit -a real-time non-blocking time (microseconds, -R) unlimited core file size (blocks, -c) unlimited data seg size (kbytes, -d) unlimited scheduling priority (-e) 0 file size (blocks, -f) unlimited pending signals (-i) 65536 max locked memory (kbytes, -l) 8192 max memory size (kbytes, -m) unlimited open files (-n) 65536 pipe size (512 bytes, -p) 8 POSIX message queues (bytes, -q) 2097152 real-time priority (-r) 0 stack size (kbytes, -s) 8192 cpu time (seconds, -t) unlimited max user processes (-u) 384795 virtual memory (kbytes, -v) unlimited file locks (-x) unlimited MN> > I'm using Vivaldi and have 11 frequently visited sites pasted into MN> > tags that I can open immediately, with each tag consuming a reasonable MN> > amount of resources, but I haven't had any problems as Carlos. MN> > MN> > I would think that there might be a problem with Calros' hardware MN> > (e.g. low memory), but his machine is, as I recall, not much older MN> > than the day he bought it...... CER> This machine has 32 gigs. But few people do: CER> firefox -P1 One & CER> firefox -P1 Two & CER> firefox -P1 Three & CER> firefox -P1 Four & Until yesterday it was 32 GB, but now I've increased to 96 GB. CER> Right now, Thunderbird has become unresponsive as I was typing CER> on two replies on this thread. I'm copying the text by hand on CER> Alpine. It can not be a limit this time, it may be something CER> related to the new TH version. Unstable. CER> I'm considering a reboot. CER> Huh, now the three windows of TH are black, totally non responsive. CER> I started it again, and it did it again in the middle of sending CER> email, within a minute of being started. And no, there is no FF CER> running. I think the email was sent - huh, th came back now. One CER> full minute in black. And it is very unresponsive. CER> Yep, going to reboot, but I'll do an update first. Hmmm, what's that, ..... (_ _? Regards & Good Night. --- ┏━━┓彡 Masaru Nomiya mail-to: nomiya @ galaxy.dti.ne.jp ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ "A society bound by e-mail and mobile phones deprives us of the freedom to face ourselves and indulge our fantasies." -- Michael Crichton (Speech in Japan) --
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Content-ID: <3beca52e-90d4-7f73-55fa-3e6d6683b1ed@Telcontar.valinor> El 2022-10-09 a las 21:14 +0900, Masaru Nomiya escribió: ...
CER> Could you post the result of "ulimit -a", please? Preferably on a recently CER> installed machine, to compare with mine.
er@Telcontar:~> ulimit -a CER> core file size (blocks, -c) unlimited CER> data seg size (kbytes, -d) unlimited CER> scheduling priority (-e) 0 CER> file size (blocks, -f) unlimited CER> pending signals (-i) 128109 CER> max locked memory (kbytes, -l) 64 CER> max memory size (kbytes, -m) unlimited CER> open files (-n) 2048 CER> pipe size (512 bytes, -p) 8 CER> POSIX message queues (bytes, -q) 819200 CER> real-time priority (-r) 0 CER> stack size (kbytes, -s) 8192 CER> cpu time (seconds, -t) unlimited CER> max user processes (-u) 4096 CER> virtual memory (kbytes, -v) unlimited CER> file locks (-x) unlimited CER> cer@Telcontar:~>
CER> For example, on another machine, user processes limit is 31161.
In my case,
masaru> ulimit -a
real-time non-blocking time (microseconds, -R) unlimited core file size (blocks, -c) unlimited data seg size (kbytes, -d) unlimited scheduling priority (-e) 0 file size (blocks, -f) unlimited pending signals (-i) 65536 max locked memory (kbytes, -l) 8192 max memory size (kbytes, -m) unlimited open files (-n) 65536 ********** ! pipe size (512 bytes, -p) 8 POSIX message queues (bytes, -q) 2097152 real-time priority (-r) 0 stack size (kbytes, -s) 8192 cpu time (seconds, -t) unlimited max user processes (-u) 384795 ********** ! virtual memory (kbytes, -v) unlimited file locks (-x) unlimited
MN> > I'm using Vivaldi and have 11 frequently visited sites pasted into MN> > tags that I can open immediately, with each tag consuming a reasonable MN> > amount of resources, but I haven't had any problems as Carlos. MN> > MN> > I would think that there might be a problem with Calros' hardware MN> > (e.g. low memory), but his machine is, as I recall, not much older MN> > than the day he bought it......
CER> This machine has 32 gigs. But few people do:
CER> firefox -P1 One & CER> firefox -P1 Two & CER> firefox -P1 Three & CER> firefox -P1 Four &
Until yesterday it was 32 GB, but now I've increased to 96 GB.
CER> Right now, Thunderbird has become unresponsive as I was typing CER> on two replies on this thread. I'm copying the text by hand on CER> Alpine. It can not be a limit this time, it may be something CER> related to the new TH version. Unstable.
CER> I'm considering a reboot.
CER> Huh, now the three windows of TH are black, totally non responsive.
CER> I started it again, and it did it again in the middle of sending CER> email, within a minute of being started. And no, there is no FF CER> running. I think the email was sent - huh, th came back now. One CER> full minute in black. And it is very unresponsive.
CER> Yep, going to reboot, but I'll do an update first.
Hmmm, what's that, ..... (_ _?
Sorry, what's what? On my previous session before typing this, Thunderbird was unusable right after reboot. Black, or non responsive. I commented out the settings in my /etc/security/limits.conf, and rebooted. Got these limits: cer@Telcontar:~> ulimit -a core file size (blocks, -c) unlimited data seg size (kbytes, -d) unlimited scheduling priority (-e) 0 file size (blocks, -f) unlimited pending signals (-i) 128109 max locked memory (kbytes, -l) 64 max memory size (kbytes, -m) unlimited open files (-n) 1024 pipe size (512 bytes, -p) 8 POSIX message queues (bytes, -q) 819200 real-time priority (-r) 0 stack size (kbytes, -s) 8192 cpu time (seconds, -t) unlimited max user processes (-u) 1200 virtual memory (kbytes, -v) unlimited file locks (-x) unlimited cer@Telcontar:~> So I have to set bigger limits. I don't know how you get those huge limits. [... rebooted] I now have: cer@Telcontar:~> ulimit -a core file size (blocks, -c) unlimited data seg size (kbytes, -d) unlimited scheduling priority (-e) 0 file size (blocks, -f) unlimited pending signals (-i) 128109 max locked memory (kbytes, -l) 64 max memory size (kbytes, -m) unlimited open files (-n) 65536 pipe size (512 bytes, -p) 8 POSIX message queues (bytes, -q) 819200 real-time priority (-r) 0 stack size (kbytes, -s) 8192 cpu time (seconds, -t) unlimited max user processes (-u) 10000 virtual memory (kbytes, -v) unlimited file locks (-x) unlimited cer@Telcontar:~> Thunderbird was responsive (I'm using Alpine to post), but after I switched to another desktop, it went full black, unresponsive. Now it is back, one full minute it was out. I don't know what is going on. Now it is black again, unresponsive. It has to be killed, does not responde to close. Starting it in safe mode. It does not go black, but it is unable to redraw the window, it is unresponsive again. I restart it, I can not open settings. White page. I can not see hardware accel setting. I see on the status line that it says: Gmail (C): Sending login information... and later a tiny dark grey popup says authentification failure. I can move from tab to tab, albeit slowly: inbox, calendar, adress book (in safe mode), but not settings. Ill try in full mode. Control Q works, after a few seconds. Starting in normal mode. The settings page appears after a delay. In search box, I type "hard". There is no setting for hardware, so no hardware accel. I search instead for "accel" and now hardware accell appears. Restart Th. It seems to respond faster, but still slowly. It doesn't seem to have problems now with gmail, but it does with usenet (which is a local, same computer, proxy server, so no internet involved). In fact, the proxy complains: <7.3> 2022-10-09T15:07:43.322295+02:00 Telcontar leafnode 13111 - - Cannot write to client: Broken pipe <7.3> 2022-10-09T15:07:43.322933+02:00 Telcontar leafnode 13674 - - Cannot write to client: Broken pipe <7.7> 2022-10-09T15:07:43.323010+02:00 Telcontar leafnode 13111 - - Client timeout, disconnecting. <7.7> 2022-10-09T15:07:43.323076+02:00 Telcontar leafnode 13674 - - Client timeout, disconnecting. And now, again, Thunderbird doesn't redraw its window (but it is not black). It appears to have problems with the news. I see a single message in the terminal where I started Thunderbird, I don't know when it printed: cer@Telcontar:~> thunderbird & [1] 14763 cer@Telcontar:~> Missing chrome or resource URL: resource:///modules/MailUtils.js cer@Telcontar:~> I have no idea if related to anything. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. (from openSUSE 15.3 x86_64 at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iHoEARECADoWIQQZEb51mJKK1KpcU/W1MxgcbY1H1QUCY0LJjxwccm9iaW4ubGlz dGFzQHRlbGVmb25pY2EubmV0AAoJELUzGBxtjUfV7eUAnAps7M3HuPGy91rniNbt OAsIxni/AJ92QuflyFBE92PziTcZ8GjXEC2V+A== =8hJM -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
On 2022-10-09 15:15, Carlos E. R. wrote:
Content-ID: <3beca52e-90d4-7f73-55fa-3e6d6683b1ed@Telcontar.valinor> El 2022-10-09 a las 21:14 +0900, Masaru Nomiya escribió:
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Restart Th.
It seems to respond faster, but still slowly.
It doesn't seem to have problems now with gmail, but it does with usenet (which is a local, same computer, proxy server, so no internet involved).
I have disabled the news configuration, by changing the port to 120, and disabling the refresh. This required a few restarts of Thunderbird. And now, it seems to work (but without news). The last updates were (I guess some update is responsible): python3-tk-3.6.15-150300.10.30.1.x86_64 Sun Oct 9 13:59:51 2022 python3-dbm-3.6.15-150300.10.30.1.x86_64 Sun Oct 9 13:59:51 2022 perl-PerlMagick-7.0.7.34-150200.10.39.1.x86_64 Sun Oct 9 13:59:51 2022 libMagick++-7_Q16HDRI4-7.0.7.34-150200.10.39.1.x86_64 Sun Oct 9 13:59:51 2022 ImageMagick-extra-7.0.7.34-150200.10.39.1.x86_64 Sun Oct 9 13:59:51 2022 ImageMagick-7.0.7.34-150200.10.39.1.x86_64 Sun Oct 9 13:59:51 2022 python3-curses-3.6.15-150300.10.30.1.x86_64 Sun Oct 9 13:59:50 2022 python3-base-3.6.15-150300.10.30.1.x86_64 Sun Oct 9 13:59:50 2022 python3-3.6.15-150300.10.30.1.x86_64 Sun Oct 9 13:59:50 2022 libMagickWand-7_Q16HDRI6-7.0.7.34-150200.10.39.1.x86_64 Sun Oct 9 13:59:50 2022 libMagickCore-7_Q16HDRI6-7.0.7.34-150200.10.39.1.x86_64 Sun Oct 9 13:59:50 2022 wine-7.18-lp153.1489.1.x86_64 Sun Oct 9 13:59:48 2022 libpython3_6m1_0-3.6.15-150300.10.30.1.x86_64 Sun Oct 9 13:59:48 2022 liblzma5-debuginfo-5.2.7-lp153.2.1.x86_64 Sun Oct 9 13:59:48 2022 ImageMagick-config-7-SUSE-7.0.7.34-150200.10.39.1.x86_64 Sun Oct 9 13:59:48 2022 xz-debugsource-5.2.7-lp153.2.1.x86_64 Sun Oct 9 13:59:39 2022 wine-32bit-7.18-lp153.1489.1.x86_64 Sun Oct 9 13:59:39 2022 gpg-pubkey-c47098ac-619d7dd0 Sun Oct 9 13:53:08 2022 python-devel-2.7.18-150000.44.1.x86_64 Thu Oct 6 12:50:27 2022 libpeas-loader-python-1.22.0-3.32.x86_64 Thu Oct 6 12:50:27 2022 python-tk-2.7.18-150000.44.1.x86_64 Thu Oct 6 12:50:26 2022 python-gdbm-2.7.18-150000.44.1.x86_64 Thu Oct 6 12:50:26 2022 python-curses-2.7.18-150000.44.1.x86_64 Thu Oct 6 12:50:26 2022 python-2.7.18-150000.44.1.x86_64 Thu Oct 6 12:50:26 2022 typelib-1_0-WebKit2-4_0-2.36.8-150200.47.1.x86_64 Thu Oct 6 12:50:25 2022 python3-boto3-1.23.4-150200.23.9.1.noarch Thu Oct 6 12:50:25 2022 python-xml-2.7.18-150000.44.1.x86_64 Thu Oct 6 12:50:25 2022 python-base-2.7.18-150000.44.1.x86_64 Thu Oct 6 12:50:25 2022 libwebkit2gtk3-lang-2.36.8-150200.47.1.noarch Thu Oct 6 12:50:25 2022 libjpeg8-devel-8.1.2-150000.32.5.1.x86_64 Thu Oct 6 12:50:25 2022 libjpeg-turbo-1.5.3-150000.32.5.1.x86_64 Thu Oct 6 12:50:25 2022 webkit2gtk-4_0-injected-bundles-2.36.8-150200.47.1.x86_64 Thu Oct 6 12:50:24 2022 libwebkit2gtk-4_0-37-2.36.8-150200.47.1.x86_64 Thu Oct 6 12:50:24 2022 typelib-1_0-JavaScriptCore-4_0-2.36.8-150200.47.1.x86_64 Thu Oct 6 12:50:22 2022 python3-botocore-1.26.4-150200.37.9.1.noarch Thu Oct 6 12:50:22 2022 libturbojpeg0-8.1.2-150000.32.5.1.x86_64 Thu Oct 6 12:50:21 2022 libpython2_7-1_0-32bit-2.7.18-150000.44.1.x86_64 Thu Oct 6 12:50:21 2022 libpython2_7-1_0-2.7.18-150000.44.1.x86_64 Thu Oct 6 12:50:20 2022 libjpeg8-8.1.2-150000.32.5.1.x86_64 Thu Oct 6 12:50:20 2022 libjpeg8-32bit-8.1.2-150000.32.5.1.x86_64 Thu Oct 6 12:50:20 2022 libjpeg62-62.2.0-150000.32.5.1.x86_64 Thu Oct 6 12:50:20 2022 libjavascriptcoregtk-4_0-18-2.36.8-150200.47.1.x86_64 Thu Oct 6 12:50:19 2022 libgit2-28-0.28.4-150200.3.3.1.x86_64 Thu Oct 6 12:50:19 2022 google-chrome-stable-106.0.5249.103-1.x86_64 Thu Oct 6 12:50:18 2022 yt-dlp-zsh-completion-2022.10.04-lp153.36.1.noarch Thu Oct 6 12:50:12 2022 yt-dlp-bash-completion-2022.10.04-lp153.36.1.noarch Thu Oct 6 12:50:12 2022 exiv2-debugsource-0.27.5-lp153.169.1.x86_64 Thu Oct 6 12:50:12 2022 libSDL2-2_0-0-2.24.1-lp153.141.1.x86_64 Thu Oct 6 12:50:10 2022 -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.3 x86_64 at Telcontar)
Hello, In the Message; Subject : Re: [oS-en] Apps crashing. Thunderbird doesn't work even in safe mode. Message-ID : <372900d9-a2a2-18f4-98a8-e9d2d3ae9471@telefonica.net> Date & Time: Sun, 9 Oct 2022 15:15:59 +0200 (CEST) [CER] == "Carlos E. R." <robin.listas@telefonica.net> has written: [...] CER> On my previous session before typing this, Thunderbird was CER> unusable right after reboot. Black, or non responsive. If you use the profile from when the problem occurred, the phenomenon can be reproduced as many times as you want. Are you running Thunderbird in a new profile? CER> I commented out the settings in my /etc/security/limits.conf, CER> and rebooted. Got these limits: [...] CER> So I have to set bigger limits. I don't know how you get those CER> huge limits. I don't even know why it's this big. Regards. --- ┏━━┓彡 野宮 賢 mail-to: nomiya @ galaxy.dti.ne.jp ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ "She continues to deeply divide opinion, nearly a decade after her death in 2013, due to her policies of privatisation, breaking the power of trade unions, and selling off public housing." -- World Is One News --
On 2022-10-10 01:52, Masaru Nomiya wrote:
Hello,
In the Message;
Subject : Re: [oS-en] Apps crashing. Thunderbird doesn't work even in safe mode. Message-ID : <372900d9-a2a2-18f4-98a8-e9d2d3ae9471@telefonica.net> Date & Time: Sun, 9 Oct 2022 15:15:59 +0200 (CEST)
[CER] == "Carlos E. R." <robin.listas@telefonica.net> has written:
[...] CER> On my previous session before typing this, Thunderbird was CER> unusable right after reboot. Black, or non responsive.
If you use the profile from when the problem occurred, the phenomenon can be reproduced as many times as you want. Are you running Thunderbird in a new profile?
No. Same profile for many years. I only have one profile with Thunderbird. The problem is that Thunderbird has stopped working with Leafnode, the nntp proxy server, probably due to some recent update. Since I deactivated the configuration, Thunderbird has been working nicely all day. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.3 x86_64 at Telcontar)
Hello, In the Message; Subject : Re: [oS-en] Apps crashing. Thunderbird doesn't work even in safe mode. Message-ID : <f1f58d1d-c769-4c66-aa22-a429413fc282@telefonica.net> Date & Time: Mon, 10 Oct 2022 02:41:39 +0200 [CER] == "Carlos E. R." <robin.listas@telefonica.net> has written: [...] MN>> If you use the profile from when the problem occurred, the phenomenon MN>> can be reproduced as many times as you want. MN>> Are you running Thunderbird in a new profile? CER> No. Same profile for many years. I only have one profile with CER> Thunderbird. CER> The problem is that Thunderbird has stopped working with Leafnode, the nntp CER> proxy server, probably due to some recent update. It might has something to do with this; NEW Opening a news:// URL now works if an account is not configured for that news server CER> Since I deactivated the configuration, Thunderbird has been CER> working nicely all day. I don't like the look and feel, so I don't want to use Thunderbird, but I'm using it because recoll tells me to use it. Regards. --- ┏━━┓彡 Masaru Nomiya mail-to: nomiya @ galaxy.dti.ne.jp ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ Think. -- The IBM slogan --
Carlos, et al -- ...and then Carlos E. R. said... % -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- % Hash: SHA1 % % Could you post the result of "ulimit -a", please? Preferably on a recently % installed machine, to compare with mine. [snip] FWIW, here's mine. davidtg@gezebel:~> ulimit -a core file size (blocks, -c) unlimited data seg size (kbytes, -d) unlimited scheduling priority (-e) 0 file size (blocks, -f) unlimited pending signals (-i) 55666 max locked memory (kbytes, -l) 64 max memory size (kbytes, -m) unlimited open files (-n) 1024 pipe size (512 bytes, -p) 8 POSIX message queues (bytes, -q) 819200 real-time priority (-r) 0 stack size (kbytes, -s) 8192 cpu time (seconds, -t) unlimited max user processes (-u) 55666 virtual memory (kbytes, -v) unlimited file locks (-x) unlimited As you can see, I pretty much abuse poor gezebel: top - 12:59:06 up 33 days, 18:03, 32 users, load average: 11.42, 10.58, 10.38 Tasks: 664 total, 14 running, 650 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie %Cpu(s): 26.1 us, 3.4 sy, 69.9 ni, 0.0 id, 0.0 wa, 0.0 hi, 0.5 si, 0.0 st MiB Mem : 13937.92+total, 252.180 free, 13051.25+used, 634.488 buff/cache MiB Swap: 66560.00+total, 45603.69+free, 20956.29+used. 492.770 avail Mem PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND 30377 boinc 39 19 393660 79696 8776 R 78.88 0.558 127:25.08 rosetta_4+ 18727 boinc 39 19 548988 86336 10200 R 75.25 0.605 417:19.49 rosetta_4+ 32698 davidtg 20 0 24.785g 385124 31620 S 74.26 2.698 238:59.10 chrome 9720 boinc 39 19 548988 86092 9976 R 70.96 0.603 473:51.14 rosetta_4+ 12415 boinc 39 19 390744 251880 8780 R 70.63 1.765 34:33.32 rosetta_4+ 15891 boinc 39 19 549768 102764 15176 R 68.65 0.720 436:36.33 rosetta_4+ 12034 boinc 39 19 390420 253340 10564 R 67.99 1.775 36:31.57 rosetta_4+ 10146 boinc 39 19 549548 97692 11172 R 63.04 0.684 471:34.84 rosetta_4+ 11043 boinc 39 19 549548 95308 9940 R 58.09 0.668 465:08.92 rosetta_4+ 14027 davidtg 20 0 24.810g 258980 32268 S 43.56 1.815 275:06.43 chrome 13611 davidtg 20 0 24.833g 220644 35500 S 27.06 1.546 450:04.11 chrome 17877 davidtg 20 0 65512 3596 612 R 16.50 0.025 0:13.26 rsync 17875 davidtg 20 0 65948 5600 920 R 14.85 0.039 0:12.94 rsync 18588 davidtg 20 0 24.792g 111228 25004 S 13.86 0.779 14:34.68 chrome 11975 davidtg 20 0 24.796g 111528 26016 S 11.55 0.781 5062:22 chrome 11773 davidtg 20 0 17.096g 32720 10044 S 9.571 0.229 5386:22 chrome 12706 davidtg 20 0 17.098g 245660 51704 S 5.281 1.721 945:14.89 chrome davidtg@gezebel:~> ps aguxw | grep chrom | wc -l 292 And yet she keeps running; she only slows down when I'm doing serious USB data transfer. So far, no core dumps -- unlike occasionally on another machine which turned out to have a bad DIMM. HTH & good luck & HANW :-D -- David T-G See http://justpickone.org/davidtg/email/ See http://justpickone.org/davidtg/tofu.txt
On 2022-10-09 12:00, Per Jessen wrote:
Carlos E. R. wrote:
I have apps randomly crashing, and I suspect they are "hiting a limit".
Now it is happening to other apps, like gkrellm or thunar. See a coredump:
Hitting some limit will only rarely cause a core dump, most often just an error message. It's not easy to tell from the garbled stack trace, but it does look like a new thread could not be started. Maybe the app initiated the core dump.
You might be able to make a more informed guess if you take a look at the core dump (with gdb). Maybe a failed malloc() or fork() or some such.
Well, I just wanted to know if I had hit one of the limits. Previously you thought it was the number of files limit and you were right, but I suspect there is another one being hit. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.3 x86_64 at Telcontar)
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